usahog
22 years ago
By David H. Hackworth



With Wesley Clark joining the Democratic presidential candidates, there are enough eager bodies pointed toward the White House to make up a rifle squad. This bunch of wannabes could make things increasingly hot for Dubya – as long as they don’t blow each other away with friendly fire.

Since Clark tossed his steel pot into the inferno, I've been constantly asked, “Hack, what do you think of the general?”

For the record, I never served with Clark. But after spending three hours interviewing the man for Maxim’s November issue, I’m impressed. He is insightful, he has his act together, he understands what makes national security tick – and he thinks on his feet somewhere around Mach 3. No big surprise, since he graduated first in his class from West Point, which puts him in the super-smart set with Robert E. Lee, Douglas MacArthur and Maxwell Taylor.

Clark was so brilliant, he was whisked off to Oxford as a Rhodes scholar and didn’t get his boots into the Vietnam mud until well after his 1966 West Point class came close to achieving the academy record for the most Purple Hearts in any one war. When he finally got there, he took over a 1st Infantry Division rifle company and was badly wounded.

Lt. Gen. James Hollingsworth, one of our Army’s most distinguished war heroes, says: “Clark took a burst of AK fire, but didn’t stop fighting. He stayed on the field till his mission was accomplished and his boys were safe. He was awarded the Silver Star and Purple Heart. And he earned ‘em.”

It took months for Clark to get back in shape. He had the perfect excuse, but he didn’t quit the Army to scale the corporate peaks as so many of our best and brightest did back then. Instead, he took a demoralized company of short-timers at Fort Knox who were suffering from a Vietnam hangover and made them the best on post – a major challenge in 1970 when our Army was teetering on the edge of anarchy. Then he stuck around to become one of the young Turks who forged the Green Machine into the magnificent sword that Norman Schwarzkopf swung so skillfully during Round One of the Gulf War.

I asked Clark why he didn’t turn in his bloody soldier suit for Armani and the big civvy dough that was definitely his for the asking.

His response: “I wanted to serve my country.”

He says he now wants to lead America out of the darkness, shorten what promises to be the longest and nastiest war in our history and restore our eroding prestige around the world.

For sure, he’ll be strong on defense. But with his high moral standards and because he knows where and how the game’s played, there will probably be zero tolerance for either Pentagon porking or two-bit shenanigans.

No doubt he’s made his share of enemies. He doesn’t suffer fools easily and wouldn’t have allowed the dilettantes who convinced Dubya to do Iraq to even cut the White House lawn. So he should prepare for a fair amount of dart-throwing from detractors he’s ripped into during the past three decades.

Hey, I am one of those: I took a swing at Clark during the Kosovo campaign when I thought he screwed up the operation, and I called him a “Perfumed Prince.” Only years later did I discover from his book and other research that I was wrong – the blame should have been worn by British timidity and William Cohen, U.S. SecDef at the time.

At the interview, Clark came along without the standard platoon of handlers and treated the little folks who poured the coffee and served the bacon and eggs with exactly the same respect and consideration he gave the biggies in the dining room like my colleague Larry King and Bob Tisch, the Regency Hotel’s owner. An appealing common touch.

But if he wins the election, don’t expect an Andrew Jackson field-soldier type. Clark’s an intellectual, and his military career is more like Ike’s – that of a staff guy and a brilliant high-level commander. Can he make tough decisions? Bet on it. Just like Ike did during his eight hard but prosperous years as president.

I Wish I could Underline this Part, But best I can do is repeat it...
His response: “I wanted to serve my country.”

Not I want make a buck or two...

I'm leaning towards this man being a Soldiers, General... God Knows the Soldiers of today need men like that looking out for them!!!! not the YesMen we've seemed to aquired lately....

We'll see how the turn of events unfold....
just my buck 250....
Hog



usahog
22 years ago
Great Post Dr....I have many many letters Shelton had writen through his Career as I came to know him... he is one of the Trusted men in the Military... the Problem were facing right now with the stretched out Military is theres to many Damn Yes Men left over from the Clinton Years!!!! and that in it's own is not good for the American Fighting Forces...I Also feel.. IMO alone... Pres. Bush needs to have allot of folks step down and be accounted for!!!!

Since my previous post on this Issue I have read and personally agree with allot of the Negative points pointed out against Clark...

we still have allot of time before we punch our tickets... it will be interesting to see the views on the Issue's leading up to the Chads!!!!

Hog
rwestcot
22 years ago
Wesley Clark will be the next President of the United States.
usahog
22 years ago
Don't put all your chips on Red... rwestcot!!!!

like I said long time before their counting Chad...

Hog
cwilhelmi
22 years ago
rwestcot - I agree.
Homebrew
22 years ago
Hey DMV,
Did Shelton, make any specific reasons, that he would not support Wesley Clark?? I didn't see any, in that article. Very Vague.
Later
Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)
DrMaddVibe
22 years ago
He eluded to character issues being a flaw in decision making...where have I heard that one before???

Make no bones about it, he's a puppet put out there to distract attention from Dean,Kerry,Mosley-Braun(snicker)and make sure the party is fractured sooo bad that GW will make Reagan's landslide against Mondale complete. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he falters and Hillary comes in at the stoke of 11:59 and take him as her running mate.

When you're forced out of the "General's Club" then you know there's a problem with him. When I see him on TV...he conjurs up images of Perot. Blaming everyone and not having a plan of his own. Black helicopters are flying overhead and crazy grandma's in the basement...that kind of stuff. If he isn't fit to lead troops...he isn't fit to lead a nation!
DrMaddVibe
22 years ago
"That question makes me wish it were vodka," said Shelton. "I've known Wes for a long time. I WILL TELL YOU THE REASON HE CAME OUT OF EUROPE EARLY HAD TO DO WITH INTEGRITY AND CHARACTER ISSUES, things that are very near and dear to my heart. I'm not going to say whether I'm a Republican or a Democrat. I'll just say Wes won't get my vote."

DrMaddVibe
22 years ago
I also offer this as supplimentary reading...


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,98245,00.html 
cwilhelmi
22 years ago
No matter what, it's going to be lively!
Homebrew
22 years ago
Like I said, the article you listed had NO Specifics. Just an un-cited attack on Clark. Who said, all generals think alike. Character issues, name one raised by that article. There are NO Specifics, but several redherrings, remember comp 101, when the professor taught about the different propaganda, including redherrings, technequies, and how to avoid being sucked in by them. A redherring is when you make an attack, character flaws, and drag in something unrelated, like the generals recovery from partial paralysis, to cover up the fact, that no facts are listed, to support the claim. The Bush team relies on propaganda techniques, to attack anyone they see as a threat.
Later
Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)
DrMaddVibe
22 years ago
A general isn't forced out for no good reason!

Just like bad doctors and lawyers...the "profession" takes care of itself through a governing body. Nothing political. He must've errored in either human casualties or severe money drain to the system for him to be forced out.

Lt's start out cocky and ready to "change the system" and follow orders. Some by earning the troops respect.

Capt.'s accept earned responsibility and carry out their orders. Some earn respect.

Maj.'s have been in the "system" long enough to know the "rules".

Lt.Col.s mellow out and either retire due to age or passed over for promotion.

generals make and set policy. They're voted up in rank by each other and are weeded out for not following policy or orders. Most retire of age constraints, but to be forced out at this level...you HAD to mess up.

This is all from an enlisted man's point of view, so if there are any officers(past or present) that think I have this post wrong...please post with a reply.
Homebrew
22 years ago
Or just piss off Bill Clinton,
Remember he was Commander In Cheif, at the time. And I believe, he was the only man, at the time, who could have forced him out.
Later
Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)
DrMaddVibe
22 years ago
While he's "commander in chief" he can order military deployment, but he cannot force anyone out of the service(whatever branch!)except for dereliction of duty.

Like I said...there's nothing political about the generals forcing somebody out.
xibbumbero
22 years ago
Iffin Wesley Clark becomes president,maybe he will sign the aid for disabled veterans bill,cause Dubya says he will not. X
cwilhelmi
22 years ago
Didn't the same thing happen to Schwartzkoph(sp)?? I think it did...
Homebrew
22 years ago
Hmmmm DMV,
The Waco article, is more inuendo, short on fact, and high on propaganda. Even the title, leads the reader to believe in something, not supported anywhere in the article. I am hoping that the other link you posted has something in it of substance. What's the difference between, Bombing Milosevich's personal home, and Saddam Hussains Personal residence, besides their geograpic placement????
Ho Hum, Hope the next link is better.
Later
Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)
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