For those of you who insist on bringing up how many of our brave warriors have died in the war in Iraq (900+), well here is a figure I just saw on the news, 42,653 Americans died in traffic accidents in 2003.

JonR

John Kerry voted for the automobile ban before he voted against it.

John Kerry supported a $.50 per gallon gas tax that would have prevented many of these deaths.

The difference being that 900+ were preventable.

Indeed, those 900+ could still be alive today. And tomorrow. And probably next week, but then they would have watched in horror as a terrorist attack killed another 3-4000 civilians and they would have thought "I would have given anything to have prevented that, even my life".

J

Yes, Kerry did vote for then against the automobile that is why he drives SUV's unless of course your against gas guzzlers then he doesn't own any.

cala, are you serious? If you believe that by declaring war on Saddam any terroist threat in the US will be eliminated, then I have some beachfront property for sale in New Mexico for ya'!

Do remember, we are talking about IRAQ NOT AFGANISTAN! ....very big difference. Going after Osama Bin Laden was/is justified and necessary.

I bet you are a Toby Keith fan! LOL

BTW, my offer excludes Tahoe 😉

Ok, JR., you are actually trying to compare vehicular death statistics with those who have lost their life because of a selfish man's personal agenda.......PUHHHLLEEEZZZZ!

That analogy is down right stupid!

While your at it why don't we compare those who have died from cancer with it as well.......hell, those people were probably smoking, eating fatty foods, living near high voltage lines, or something!!!!

Traffic deaths vs. War casualties!!!

I mean, REALLY?

Yes, Cala is comparing apples to oranges here.

However, it you think it through there is one similarity. Both, driving a car and joining the military are VOLUNTARY activities. Everyone that gets on the roadways knows that they could die. And, every person that joins the service (active duty, reserve or guard) knows that they may be called upon to fight and die for their country. EVEN IF they don't agree with the decision. Having signed on the dotted line myself (more than once) Having "hindsight" I believe the war is Iraq may not have been in our best interest. However, at the time the decision was made, whith the info they had, I believe our leaders did what they thought was best for the country. What amazes me is that most of the negativity we hear about the decision to go to war comes, not from the military and those that are over there fighting, but from those that are not. Yes a great number absolutely HATE being there and would want to be home (no one likes war); but 99.9% are steadfast in serving their country. We should be proud of that!

Regards,

Yo Sonny_LSU:

My analogy was that we all die, we die young, we die old, and we die in between. Some die peaceably in their sleep and some die horrific deaths, but we all die. If I had a choice I would rather die fighting for a just cause than say, killed by an automobile whose driver is arguing on his cell phone with his wife over what side dish to have for dinner that night, or some **** who thinks he can drink a dozen shots of whiskey and still be okay to drive.

Those that fight in the war in Iraq and die, well it was just their time to die and those who are killed in automobile accidents, well it was just their time to die also.

JonR

Sonny, Tahoe is in California and Nevada. Exclude Havasu.

ele, I caught that as I hit the send button.......I take the dumbass on that one.....esp. when I was trying to be witty!

Even I can't stand that Toby Keith crap. The guy is a tool.

J

What does Toby Keith have to do with anything? About like Don Henley and Bruce Springsteen........entertainers, and if they were worth their salt they would be entertaining the troops and not protesting while making mega millions off the concerts!

Kerry being a fool, and one who cannot make up his mind one way or the other, and then reversal of thought later.......that is a serious problem! We do not need someone like that in office. Reminds me of the spineless Mr Luebner!

Charlie

Since this is an "oil war" are you suggesting that we are killing our soldiers only to allow even more deaths on the highways?

The absurdity!

We should really be pointing the fingers at France and Germany et al, who were undeniably on the take from Sadam, and therefore used the stall tactics through their UN authority to delay the war and allow Iraq to do some housecleaning.

God Bless the souls and the family of those youths who have been slain in our efforts to make this world a better place.
We should never forget their valor and sacrifice.

Here Sonny and AVB, here's your Unneccesary War...
Pictures
http://massgraves.info/ 

FACTS
http://www.usaid.gov/iraq/legacyofterror.html 
Since the Saddam Hussein regime was overthrown in May, 270 mass graves have been reported. By mid-January, 2004, the number of confirmed sites climbed to fifty-three. Some graves hold a few dozen bodies—their arms lashed together and the bullet holes in the backs of skulls testimony to their execution. Other graves go on for hundreds of meters, densely packed with thousands of bodies.

"We've already discovered just so far the remains of 400,000 people in mass graves," said British Prime Minister Tony Blair on November 20 in London. The United Nations, the U.S. State Department, Amnesty International, and Human Rights Watch (HRW) all estimate that Saddam Hussein's regime murdered hundreds of thousands of innocent people. "Human Rights Watch estimates that as many as 290,000 Iraqis have been 'disappeared' by the Iraqi government over the past two decades," said the group in a statement in May. "Many of these 'disappeared' are those whose remains are now being unearthed in mass graves all over Iraq."

If these numbers prove accurate, they represent a crime against humanity surpassed only by the Rwandan genocide of 1994, Pol Pot's Cambodian killing fields in the 1970s, and the Nazi Holocaust of World War II.

and you who b!tch about this being a war just for Oil or one mans Personal War, can Kiss my A$$.... we should have ended his Regime in 1991 plain and simple...

There's your Numbers and this is why American Military men and women are in Iraq right now... to keep this from happening again and establishing a Democracy that some of you left wing liberals don't even want in your own country!!!!

Hog

Hey, Russ, that is NOT the reason we are over there.

If that were the reason we went there (to stop ongoing genocide), then I'd be the first one giving support......BUT, GW went over there on his own accord (damn the rest of the world) to disarm Saddam of WMDs (which have yet to be found).

Remember, Russell, just because you believe something with all of your heart does NOT make it true. You are a passionate individual, but you do tend to get misguided at times (as do all of us).

WMD's were one of the reasons we went to Iraq. I guess you liberal do gooders will be screaming to the high heavens when we go to Iran to shut that web of terrorist down next!

Charlie