RICKAMAVEN
21 years ago
EI

twisted way. how do you come up with crap like that and who the hell said you were able to decide what is twisted and what is no more then a disagreement.

name calling and stupid remarks like that mark you as whatever one is marked as who persists in nonsensical responses.
RICKAMAVEN
21 years ago
Charlie

nice response and no reason to sned anything your way except a wish for a merry christmas.
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21 years ago
Bloody, why are SteveS' wonks wrong, and your wonks right?
You asked him to support his assertions. He has certainly done so. Then you disparage his assertions as "cut and paste." I suspect if he had summarized or put those articles into his own words you may have demanded a source. Yet you have done nothing to bulwark your own position, save heckling. I contend that the "anti-administration" emotional position that you have assumed has clouded your powers of reason.
Yea verily I have spoken (written) thusly. Be it so known.

And by the powers vested in me, as an impartial, cigar smoking, buttinski, I hereby do declare SteveS the winner of this meeting of the minds. The decision of the judge is final, unless my wife says differently.
Charlie
21 years ago
Rick

I said it was a joke! Gee, you post obnoxious crap and when someone steps on your tinfoil hat or toes, you get offended! Cannot understand why? When one asks to be slammed, and they get a mini slam, what the hell do you expect!????

Charlie
Charlie
21 years ago
Oh Rick, you may be able to "think for yourself" and wax eloborate about a subject, but you are still the most guilty cut and paste (or as you call it "copy and paste") person on this board! What will you do when Moveon.org and other left wing sites die a natural death?

Charlie
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21 years ago
Author: RICKAMAVEN Date: 12/07/2004 03:42 PM Reply
EI
twisted way. how do you come up with crap like that and who the hell said you were able to decide what is twisted and what is no more then a disagreement.
name calling and stupid remarks like that mark you as whatever one is marked as who persists in nonsensical responses.


Your posts stand on their own merit
And it must have been hard for you to call me a name caller without calling me a name... LMAO

Take some Mylanta it helps the sour grapes go down easier
usahog
21 years ago
I have not read through this thread completely.. is there a need to?? LOL

I opened this one up this morning two posts... Ricks and Bloods... I then did not have a case of acid reflux, but a massive case of the cr@ps... almost like I had drank a bottle of draino and my pipes come unclogged... after cleaning myself up and doing daily chores I'm back to a reply status on this one ;0)

Outsourcing Jobs isn't anything NEW from the Bush Administration but Hell lets blame this Administration... and while we're at it!!!! It's GWB's Fault for 911 and it's his fault for partial birth abortions and I'm digging deep here to pull this rabbit out my @SS!!!!!! it's his damn fault my ex wife was a floozy who while I was deployed on trips (Because OF BUSH SENIOR?JUNIOR AND BARBRA TOOO!!! a Hell Throw JEB in there also) SPent money off credit cards on her flings with God Knows how many men.. and then stuck me with the bills at the time I'd had enough of paying for her Sexcapades.... yea and it's Bush's fault I smoke Cigarettes and drink about a pound of coffee a day... and it's his fault my car insurance premium went up because I added another vehicle onto it!!!! and it's his fault my step daughter has to pay for her own cheerleading uniform and equipment... Oh Yea... I had to install a new furnace before winter time here and it was Bush's fault for that TOoooooo!!! because of the ahhh Ohhhhh Hmmmm Natural Gas prices yea thats it.. thats why....

for cripes sake folks... the reason for all the outsourcing is simply because the American worker who DEMANDS compensated for every frickin thing and then there are those that think these poor lazy Bastages who don't want to work should be given a roof over their heads and food in their belly's while they smoke their crack and drink their brains out while collecting SSI and cutting short the folks who really need the assistance... and then there is OSHA, EPA, and many other Goverment programs who go out and find a minor error in the way a business does business and not up to the 300,000 page inspection sheet on how to operate a screwdriver wasn't applied correctly to the proper slot given on the foreign Outsourced Screw that runs the Generator made in Hong Kong so the company is taken all the way through Federal Court and loses to and been fined $250,000 for slip shodding the work... thus the union man who was operating the screwdriver has the union back up his actions and after arbitration is completed he also walks away with a hefty settlement for mishandling his job placement while this investigation was going on from an outside agency whiched charged $350,000 for their services... so now the this part of the company is back up and in operation, and after one week the rest of the workers walk out on strike because plany production had to be increased which meant manditory overtime until further notice, workers are disgruntled and pickiting, the company hires attorney's to settle the disputes, and to keep plant operations going opens up for non-union help... the non-union employee's are threatened to crossing the picket lines so then the police are called in... thus all the striking union employee's who have been out for a month or so are lined up at the unemployment lines and bread lines and picket lines...

in the meantime, mom and pops who's trying to raise a family and both working hard to do so.. smile, kiss each other each morning as they head out the door to their plush job's working for the Lawyers/union office or management positions of these above places.. as they walk out their front door to get in their leased vehicles they see their neigbors who haven't held a job in the past 15 yrs sitting on their porch drinking beer still from the party the night before.. smile and waive knowing that 70% + 70% = 140% of their sweat and labor is coming off the top of their checks to help support their neigbors wanted desires...

Thus you have outsourcing and any way you want to slice it or point the finger... every damn one of us is to blame... Welcome to America!!!!!!!!

Smile and waive as you come home from a hard days work of dealing with people who are out to get their's first and screw the other guy!!!! and then one day you wake up and the company you've been elbows and A$$Holes for for 20 years hands you a pink slip because they no longer can maintain here in America!!!!!!

Just my Taxed Buck Two Fifty and some change!!!!

Hog
bloody spaniard
21 years ago
Wow! I learned more about your anatomy than I had a right to, Hog!

Look, I'm not blaming Bush for the heartbreak of psoriasis. I am merely saying that there's more to the man than meets the eye.

He is NOT pro small business, which is the engine that drives this country-NOT the corporations. He consistently sides with corporations, pharmaceuticals (in issues involving the CDC vs. the "common man"), his Mexican pal (Vicente Fox) regarding the illegals, etc. He also pretends to help the military (life expenses/benefits). I could go on an on...


Now on to Judge Ito Buttinsky (LOL)- a fellow Marylander (traitor)... I think SteveS is pretty smart but I am not going to agree with him merely because he digs up & dusts off a number of cut 'n paste articles from dubious sources. I can (time permitting) do the same. One can play he said/she said ping- pong all day.

My "emotional" anti/administration position is based on the Bush's track record with businessmen like me and my friends--NOT some article out of a San Francisco newspaper or people with a vested interest in the current administration (bureaucrats, pensioners, lobbyists, etc.).

Now, if you wanted to convince me that the current clown in office is not at least partially responsible for the outsourcing problem, then create an efficacious (like that Primate?) argument citing successful, self-made businessmen (not "authors")who disagree with me. Then, perhaps I'll listen.

One point that I will NOT concede is that dubya has made the life of the small business- especially government vendors- much harder by taking away bidding opportunities. If you disagree with that you are a fool in my eyes.

blood
RICKAMAVEN
21 years ago
Charlie

what's with you. i liked your post, and felt nothing mean about it. i knew it was a joke.

i just wished you a merry christmas.
RICKAMAVEN
21 years ago
bloody spaniard

i stopped at "I am merely saying that there's more to the man than meets the eye."

i thought it was the other way around.

now i will go back and finish your debate with usahog, currently a very mellow fellow.
bloody spaniard
21 years ago
Mr. Maven said: "i stopped at "I am merely saying that there's more to the man than meets the eye."

Yeah, and unfortunately, it's mostly bad.


Now for a Guiness (extra stout) & whatever crawls out of any one of my seven humidors. LOL
Good night, folks.



dapperdan
21 years ago
Tiny bubbles was always my favorite Don Ho song.
bloody spaniard
21 years ago
^Hope the bubbles didn't make you dizzy, Dan.:-)


Are we still playing "cut n' paste ping-pong" regarding outsourcing? Well, if we are, here's my serve.

He's not a self-made businessman, but he IS a renowned, CONSERVATIVE economist/columnist--Paul Craig Roberts:

"The jobs front is like the Iraqi front. The worse the situation, the better the news. As jobs for college graduates disappear from the U.S. economy, pundits tell us how great the jobs outlook is.
The 248,000 new jobs in May looks good as an aggregate number, which is the only number the public got. The components of the figure reveal a scary situation.
American job growth is concentrated in low-paid domestic services, such as restaurants and bars, temporary help, and health care and social assistance. Of the 248,000 new jobs, 213,000 are in domestic services and construction. These are not jobs that can help reduce the massive U.S. trade deficit by producing tradable goods and services.
The good news is 32,000 manufacturing jobs were created in May. If this manufacturing jobs growth continues for the next 84 months, by June 2011 the U.S. economy will have regained the June 2001 level of manufacturing employment.
The bad news about the new manufacturing jobs is that only 13,000 are in products of the global high tech economy — computer and electronic products, semiconductors, and electronic instruments. The rest are scattered among food manufactured products, wood products, and roofing metal for the domestic housing boom.
Something is WRONG. We are told we live in a global economy, but the jobs growing in the United States are not part of the global economy. Advanced technology products are touted as America's manufacturing advantage. However, the U.S. suffered its first-ever trade deficit in advanced technology products in 2002. The deficit grew significantly in 2003 and is growing this year. Charles McMillion at MBG Information Services in Washington D.C. forecasts the U.S. 2004 deficit in advanced technology products to be $35 billion.
U.S. manufacturing employment peaked in June 1979 at 19,553,000. In May 2004 U.S. manufacturing employment stands at 14,405,000, a decline of 26 percent.
We are told not to worry, that this only means U.S. manufacturing has become more productive. A large percentage of the population once worked in agriculture, but today, thanks to productivity, a tiny percentage of the work force provides our food.
It is true manufacturing has become more productive. But it is also true U.S. manufacturers are increasingly assemblers of foreign-made parts. More and more U.S. brands are made abroad. Unlike manufacturing, U.S. agricultural employment did not decline historically because of outsourced food production.
Our export future was to be in services. We would be the world's supplier of high-tech services and earn foreign exchange from service exports to pay for our imports of manufactured goods.
The problem with these assurances is the U.S. trade surplus in services peaked at $91.1 billion in 1997. It has since fallen to $59.2 billion, a drop of 35 percent. Our surplus in services is only about 10 percent of our trade deficit in goods.
Because the U.S. dollar is the world's reserve currency, we can get away with this extraordinary imbalance long enough to dig ourselves into a deep hole.
Perhaps U.S. employers have been saving up high value-added jobs for June graduates and we will get good news the first Friday in July when the June jobs numbers are announced.
But don't hold your breath. In the past 40 months (three previous graduating classes), the U.S. economy lost 376,000 jobs in professional and business services and 220,000 jobs in professional and technical services.
Since January 2001, the U.S. has 64,000 fewer accounting and bookkeeping jobs, 16,000 fewer architectural and engineering jobs, 223,000 fewer computer systems design and related jobs, 123,000 fewer management jobs, 532,000 fewer information jobs (including telecommunications, ISPs, search portals, data processing), 117,000 fewer jobs in air transportation, 80,000 fewer jobs in chemicals, 122,000 fewer jobs in plastics and rubber products, 178,000 fewer jobs in apparel, 128,000 fewer jobs in textile mills, 523,000 fewer jobs making computer and electronic products, 297,000 fewer jobs making machinery, 134,000 fewer jobs making electrical equipment and appliances, and 209,000 fewer jobs making transportation equipment.
If job disappearance of this magnitude continues, textile engineers, mechanical engineers, chemical engineers, electrical engineers and computer engineers will disappear as American occupations.
Few trends, including decline, move in a straight line. However, with massive trade deficits in manufactured goods including advanced technology products, with shrinking trade surpluses in services, with U.S. job growth concentrated in low-pay domestic services, and with the Bureau of Labor Statistics predicting most U.S. job growth over the next decade in low-skilled domestic services, the U.S. work force is taking on a Third World complexion.
That is the truth about jobs.

(Paul Craig Roberts is a columnist for The Washington Times and is nationally syndicated.)


IMHO, this cut n' paste carries more weight than some rag from San Francisco, or some political hacks with an ax to grind or who are living off the Government teat.


I voted for dubya the first time as did Mr. Roberts.
He may regret it as much as I.

blood



RICKAMAVEN
21 years ago
who won the second world war. first we thought we did until the japanese started buying parts of our country. they called it something like the louisiana purchase.

now the chinese are buying what the japanese can't afford any more.

does wal-mart own china or does china own wal-mart.

will the aleutians soon become a parking lot for americans that want to shop in the far east. perhaps a bullet train to get us there starting in new york with stops in all the major cities and a sleepover in hong kong.

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQgotopageZ1QQsassZwayhomehkQQsorecordsperpageZ50QQsosortorderZ1QQsosortpropertyZ1 


DVD'S
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i understand india is looking over some prospectus's to see what they might want.
bloody spaniard
21 years ago
^Are you doing your Larry the "Lizard King" again?!
LOL
Charlie
21 years ago
Is that in reference to Lounge Lizard Larry of the old computer games???

Charlie
bloody spaniard
21 years ago
^Not unless it's based on the prune with suspenders from CNN...LOL!
THL
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21 years ago
Blood, I calls 'em like I sees 'em. But I see that you have submitted new evidence. This forces me to re-visit my verdict. I may declare a mis-trial.
Both of you are better informed than I, so I DO view this as a learning experience.
If I can muddy the water or further confuse the situation I'm happy to help.
bloody spaniard
21 years ago
Thank you, Your Hoenor!

Now if you can just officially declare Rick insane & have him committed...
LOL
JonR
21 years ago
Yo Rick:

I talked to my doctor about your ailment and he said it is common in liberals of small height and obesity,( something about a short esophagus). He suggests you take a fleet enema after each incident and next time vote Republican.

Hope this helps.

JonR
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