RICKAMAVEN
24 years ago
i think the real actors may be the people who appear in movie after movie in small parts. we don't know there names and we barely recognize them. sort of "wasn't he/she in another movie". we barely recognize them because they become the part but they are always sort of familiar.
JonR
24 years ago
How about Pauly Shore in "Son in Law". ROFLMAO!
tailgater
24 years ago
JonR: First you like the Flyers, now Pauly Shore. It all makes sense now...
Charlie
24 years ago
Some are Lesser known others are character actors but all are very good actors: Steve Buscemi, Chris Penn, Christopher Walken, Dennis Hopper, Michael Madsen, Dennis Hopper, Michael Ironside, Powers Booth,William Forsythe, Tim Roth,Paul Sorvino, Ray Liotta,Frank Vincent and Joe Pesci to name a few! These people help to make the movie and while some are big names they play characters! Charlie
Todog
24 years ago
It seems to me that Halle Berry felt that it was very important to campaign about the race issue for weeks before her big win. I'm sure that she made her white Mother very proud! John
Charlie
24 years ago
Her "white" mother is bought and paid for by Halle and will Aunty Em anything that "black" Halle wants done! We need to get race out of everything in this country as I am tired of the Jesse Jackson's and Al Sharptons making a living off of that issue that is soundly supported by the liberal press! Charlie
xrundog
24 years ago
I saw Halle do an interview a few days before the awards. Her main point was that for many years movies were not made with black actors. When they finally were, blacks did not get lead or even significant supporting roles. Yes there are some exceptions. She was grateful that black actors are finally being given the chance to make movies and have roles making them eligible for the academy award. It occurs to me that black americans getting over slavery and Jim Crow would be about as likely as jews getting over their slavery in Egypt. It's been 3000 years or so and they (the jews) still memorialize it. Why should we expect different of African Americans?
xrundog
24 years ago
Oh yeah, I will see almost any Bruce Willis flick. He does comedy, drama, action movies. The guy has range and is often very funny!
RICKAMAVEN
24 years ago
xrundog: It's been 3000 years or so and they (the jews) still memorialize it. first: we don't memorialize it, we celebrat it. second: what is wrong with a religious holiday. you are using the term memorialize as a negative term. we also have easter at the same time as passover. i never thought of either in the negative. your problem is you are a racist and don't know it. blacks built this country with their sweat, as slaves. that means forced labor. no compensation. no family. nothing. i don't believe their descendents deserve compensation for their ancestors plight, but unless you at the minimum recognize the background, and walk in their shoes, nothing you have to say means anything. this is completely apart from our emails and trades, because i still think you are a nice guy.
Charlie
24 years ago
Funny, I thought that immigrants in general had a hell of a lot to do with building this country! Irish, Chinese, Italians, Africans and oh yes, the cursed "white" people! Charlie
michaelsean
24 years ago
Don't forget Morgan Freeman. He's had his share of dogs, but his acting is outstanding. I'd mention Tim Robbins, but I'm tired of seeing him and Susan...well I'm just tired of seeing them.
Charlie
24 years ago
Speaking of Susan whats her name, did she look like she needed to visit Joan Rivers personal Plastic Surgeon on Oscar Night or was my televison set just not working? Charlie
xrundog
24 years ago
Whoa Rick! You have me all wrong. I am using the term memorialize as in the term "Memorial Day". Nothing negative about it! Any holiday is by definition a memorial. The Jewish people mark the fact of their bondage in Egypt. What I am doing is defending African Americans for the fact that they will never forget slavery. Many people say they should "Get over it"! Why should they? Am I a racist? I don't think so. I might be guilty of some cultural bigotry but it's not based on race. I am cool with Jews, Blacks, Asians, Hispanics, Arabs and any other people I forgot to name. I don't like the criminal culture overtaking youth in America. I don't like the white supremacy movement. Fundamental christianity makes me nervous as does fundamental islam, as do the black muslims. I think political corruption in countries with a history of spainish colonialism is troubling. The Indian caste system is unjust. What is happening in Africa would be a tradgedy anyplace and it's a function of culutre, not race. Does this help you "see" me better?
RICKAMAVEN
24 years ago
: xrundog: thanks. yes. we cool. i appreciate your kind response to my nasty post.
RICKAMAVEN
24 years ago
char5353: yes, but later in our evolution. irish and italians and all "white" people were invited with their families because as a country we needed a work force. did you know that the chinese that built the railroads were not allowed to bring wives or family. they were provided with prostitutes to take care of their sex. we (the us)wanted them to build and get out. we did not want non whites to live here on a permanent basis. bet you didn't know that charlie.
Charlie
24 years ago
Rick, wrong, I am a student of history and also know that the Chinese workmen, gandi dancers (which also included Irish immigrant workers, did in fact build the railroads and tunnels, and didn't see a woman for weeks on end, till the prostitutes were brought to them! My studies in college included a major in History and Business Management....along with playing baseball and chasing girls! Charlie
RICKAMAVEN
24 years ago
char5353: you continue to amaze me.
tailgater
24 years ago
Now I've heard everything: The Italians, Irish and other "whites" were "invited". Like it's a party. Those people came here with nothing and WORKED to feed their families. If it meant building the railroad and being away from their loved ones for months, so be it. If it meant shoveling **** 24 hours a day 7 days a week, so be it. They were not "invited". They earned their share. As for the Chinese immigrants, we didn't force them to come and work. They came to earn a few American pennies in order to send them home to their families. They knew the deal, so don't cry for them. This is ridiculous. MOST ethnic and religious groups faced some sort of discomfort in the early years. Call it bigotry, call it ignorance but deal with it. Americans were not evil, they were simply uninformed. This is 2002, and it's OK to remember the past. It's smart to learn from the past. But to DWELL on the past and use for gain in today's world is nothing but pitiful lack of self respect.
Charlie
24 years ago
I never said anything about being "invited"! They came to build a dream and conquer a wilderness and desert! Charlie
RICKAMAVEN
24 years ago
tailgater i did not meann they were invited to a party, i meant they could bring their families. they could work and live here. i know every ethmic group from europe faced the same problem, trying to fit in to the new country. my grandfather came here in the late 1800's and faced the same bigotry all immigrants faced until they were absorbed into the society. there was no bi-lingual education. you want to work and live here, you learn to speak english. you study and become a citizen. the chinese knew the "deal".
the Chinese weren't immigrants "A person who leaves one country to settle permanently in another." it was then as it is now, skin color, the easiest way to divide people. this color of skin is acceptable, that color is not.
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