tailgater
24 years ago
Why was it important that Halle and Denzel happen to be black? Were it not for the Leftist Liberal media forcing the race issue down my throat I would simply have been happy for a great actor and a real babe winning Oscars. Now I can't think of the award without seeing their skin color. And that's a shame.
JonR
24 years ago
What if Cbid gave out Oscars, who would win. What would the categories be: 1. Best Post, Best Reply, Best Supporting Reply, etc. etc.. You decide.
tailgater
24 years ago
Like many things today, the awards programs have too many categories. "Best sound editing for a black and white animation with lebaneze subtitles" It's crazy, almost like the recent olympic games. We could go nuts just inventing categories, nevermind voting on them. We could have "best use of fonts", "most capital letters", "worst spelling", "most consistent use of computer geek lingo". We'll have to come up with enough categories to cover everybody. We wouldn't want to offend anyone...
Charlie
24 years ago
I am a long time fan of Denzel Washington and feel that he is a lot like Tom Hanks and Jack Nicholson in that any movie roll they play is potential nomination time! All three bring more to a roll than the character that they are portraying....they make each and every part played on screen monumental. Now don't throw "The Burbs", or any early Hanks trash up in next post, I mean since he made "Philadelphia", which either Denzel or Hanks could have won the Oscar for fine portrayals! Charlie
plabonte
plabonte
24 years ago
Thanks for the link altitude. It puts a little more light onto this case. I hadn't realized that other injuries occurred before this incident and yet McDonalds did nothing to help prevent future injuries.
plabonte
24 years ago
Alright, first I hit return to early, then I typed what I wanted to say, and then spell checked it in word, however when I went to paste it here I pasted the wrong thing.

Anyway what I wanted to say is why did Denzel get an award for this movie and not his other movies? His acting is identical in every film. He has the same tone, same facial expressions, and same movement and gestures in every character he does.
Charlie
24 years ago
So what you mean is that Denzil could not play Ronald McDonald? :):):) Charlie
plabonte
24 years ago
Well no. Ronald is white with a big red nose.
Charlie
24 years ago
In Philadelphia the role that Denzil played was supposed to be a white guy and the role Hanks played was supposed to be a black, gay lawyer so they reversed the roles! So why cannot Ronald McDonald be Ronald Washington or Ronald Jackson and have Denzil play the part???? Charlie
gdurfor
24 years ago
i agree plabonte. Dudzel is the black kevin cosner.
Charlie
24 years ago
That is a good point, as he does not have the range of characterizations that Tom Hanks does, in fact, nobody but nobody is even close to Tom Hanks in ability to adapt to a role and turn that part into something that is worthy of Acadamey consideration over and over! Sure Denzil was the "default" winner this time on Let's Love all Races night at the Awards and he has had better parts before! Look how long it took Paul Newman to win an AA!!! Tom Hanks is really as close to Jimmy Stewart as any actor working today and will probably end up being best actor of all time! He is great and getting greater! I have been having some fun with this thread, but sincerely believe that Hanks is heads above any other actor in Hollywood! Charlie
plabonte
24 years ago
Don't get me wrong, I think Hanks is good. But IMHO Mel Gibson is the best actor. But I guess its all subjective.

The Denzel as Ronald brings a thought to mind. I once saw some talk show where a white guy put on black makeup and did comedy in the styles of that Al Jolson period. I don't know what the proper term for it is but you know that "Mammy I'm comin home" stuff. Anyway, a large number of black people found it very offensive saying he was making fun of them. His claim was that he was paying tribute to the people that did it originally.

Anyway, I'm wondering if Denzel put on white makeup and acted foolish and unintelligent like a clown would white people consider it offensive saying he is making fun of white people.
tailgater
24 years ago
Although the face painting is indeed offensive (and not funny) by todays standards, the argument could be made that it was indeed a tribute of sorts since their is a history of that behavior. If Denzel did what you want in that role reversal it would simply be offensive with no rhyme nor reason. But if it were done properly like Eddy Murphy in Coming to America, then THAT'S funny!
JonR
24 years ago
Best Actor Oscar goes to Tailgator for his role in "Sports Fans Forum" he almost convinced me that New England had a professional hockey team.
RICKAMAVEN
24 years ago
plabonte:. "I don't know what the proper term for it is" it is simply called "blackface". char5353: i
sort of agree with you about hanks, but as he said himself, "people trust tommy to never do anything
wrong." all his parts are what he described as "goody two shoes". there are some powerhouses
out there that should never be missed. gene hackman, sean connery, sean penn, anthony
hopkins, kevin spacey, etc.
Charlie
24 years ago
I agree with the Mel Gibson take and he is another of the versitle greats! Remember him in Mad Max? Great! Kevin Spacey, Sean Connery, Jack Nicholson to name a few moe of the "greats"! I like Hackman, but all of his parts are all the same characterizations! Talk about range in characters, look at Mel Gibson all the way to the "What Women Want" part! He is superb, but I still take Hanks as the best of all! It is a fun subject to debate, as an avowed Movie Hound I can talk film noir and throw in a few more greats: Robert Mitchum, Humphrey Bogart, Richard Widmark, Orson Welles, etc! Charlie
calavera
24 years ago
If you want to see versatility, check out Gary Oldman.
Dracula, True Romance ('He must have thought it was white boy day. It's not white boy day is it?), Sid and Nancy, The Professional, Romeo is Bleeding. This guy truly disappears into his characters.
Charlie
24 years ago
Talk about disappearing into a role, how about his character in Hannibal? He is one of the great character actors and can play heavies as well as anybody! Charlie
plabonte
24 years ago
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Harrison Ford. He is another great actor. Ditto on the Hopkins.
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