joeswift: rod stieger in "across the bridge" 1957. almost impossible to find, but worth searching for. bogart in "the black legion"

of course like touch of evil, the third man.

Thanks for the info eleltea, calavera and Rick. I'm going to check-em out and get back to you with reviews so I'm off now to stock up on my pop corn. joe

Detour is in the National Film Registry and was considered the best of the "B" movies, a really great Film Noir, and hard as hell to find!!!! I have looked for it and cannot find the damn thing! Check out some of Hitchcock's old B & W's such as "Strangers on a Train" and "Shadow of Doubt"!!! Charlie

Along the film noir lines, I think "Out of the Past" is the very, very best of the genre it was sadly remade by Taylor Hackford as "Against All Odds" in 1984 and was not a bad movie, but an insult to "Out of the Past"! Mitchum was great in Out of the Past and if you haven't seen it, find it and watch it! It runs on AMC and TCM's about every 3 to 4 months! Charlie

Thanks for the input Charlie. "Detour" is not a film that I have even heard about, much less seen (just goes to show ya who the REAL film student is). I'll start scouting the really good video store up in Austin the next time I'm up in town. I was just up there today too looking for another a/c for my workshop but the vidoe store wasn't on the menue. It's about a 50 minute drive each way up there so I limit my time in Austin accordingly...next time for sure. joe

I saw 'Detour' in a class that I took my senior year in college. The professor was a huge film noir buff, and he got me hooked. If you like film noir, check out books by Jim Thompson. 'The Killer Inside Me' is about as hard boiled as they come. It was made into a not so good movie starring Stacey Keach. 'Pop. 1280' was almost as good, and it was made into a very good movie (that happens to be in French). 'The Grifters' is also a great book, and it was made into an okay movie starring John Cusack.

calavera i have been looking for "population 1280" for many years since i read the short story. if you have a copy and can dup it or tell me where i can get one, i would be a happy camper. jim thompson was the best of the bunch at that time, unfortunately for him, spillane was the popular author.

Rick: I'll see if I can find a copy of the movie around. Stay tuned and I'll let you know.

John Dahl is a director who is a modern day film noir maker, if you have not seen "Red Rock West" or "The Last Seduction" you should check them out! Red Rock West is one of Nick Cage's best films and is a real sleeper! He also made the mega hit film "Rounders"! Dahl is a great writer/director and should not be taken lightly! Charlie

My brother used to keep oscars in his fish tank..suckers get big then you have to feed 'em guppies and goldfish, then just about anything your dog won't eat..they got to be a nice pan-size...rigged a little pole and fished one out..don't worry; it was catch and release...

jd1 huh!

Hey Charlie, who stared in The Last Seduction? I saw Red Rock West sometime ago and thought it was a good film. You're right about Cages's performance too. I can't remember him doing anything better, especially lately.

Yo joeswift how about "Leaving LasVegas" Cage won best actor oscar. JonR

Sorry Jon I didn't see it, or the Oscar's when he won it. I'm a workaholic and most of my time is spoken for, so I have a lot of blanks to fill in. That's why I pester you guys for the input. Anyway, I won't pass it up the next time I see it on the "menue". Thanks, joe

Last Seduction starred Linda Fiorntino,Bill Pullman and Peter Berg! Fiorentio won several awards for her roll as the femme fatale'! Really good movie but not as good as Red Rock West! The studio tried to get her nominated for Academy Award for best actress, but since it was made originally for HBO before being a movie release, couldn't get the nomination for her! Stirred up lots of arguments in LA and the film community! Charlie

Body Heat and Payback are a couple of my favorite more recent movies that owe debts to the genre.

Payback is one of Gibson's best roles!!!! Charlie

Rick: sorry, but Pop. 1280 is a no go. The professor that taught the class that I watched it in has left. The copy of the movie that he had was his and not the University's, and the department does not have a copy. None of the video stores in my area have a copy.
Well, I tried.

calavera: it was called coup de torchon. i will spend tonight looking for it with subtitles.