CelticBomber
13 years ago

watchurai, Gimbel, Guido099 & Campage:

I spoke with Jon this morning, he expresses his apologies about the patched cigars and that sometimes it does happen, and not just at DE. He also said he would like to make it up to each of you with a fiver of Undercrowns and a UF+11 t-shirt. If each of you could please PM me your email address, t-shirt size and snailer, I'll pass these along to Brooke and he'll get your stuff out to you.

Thunder.Gerbil wrote:




Wow that was really nice of you to get involved like that and get these guys what you did even though they weren't all that upset by the patched cigars. That was really nice of you!


Celtic
dpnewell
13 years ago

watchurai, Gimbel, Guido099 & Campage:

I spoke with Jon this morning, he expresses his apologies about the patched cigars and that sometimes it does happen, and not just at DE. He also said he would like to make it up to each of you with a fiver of Undercrowns and a UF+11 t-shirt. If each of you could please PM me your email address, t-shirt size and snailer, I'll pass these along to Brooke and he'll get your stuff out to you.

Thunder.Gerbil wrote:



Oh crap, I just went through my stock, and one entire box is patched. Think I can get 25 fivers and 25 t-shirts?

j/king.


4 boxes and not a patch to be found. Are you sure you folks aren't buying 2nds?
ZRX1200
13 years ago
Gimbel didn't get these here at cbid........
SMGBobbyScott
13 years ago

I'm going to start a new humidor ... I mean, ORPHANAGE for poor patched Undercrowns. I will give them all a loving home! Until I set them on fire, that is.

njstone wrote:




Me too! Me too!!!


[sarcasm]
dpnewell
13 years ago

Gimbel didn't get these here at cbid........

ZRX1200 wrote:




Well heck, that there's his problem. I heard Sven personally inspects every cigar sold here.
Guido099
13 years ago
Thanks TG! Totally unexpected but very much appreciated!
Just another reason I will never hesitate to buy JD's products.
Campage
13 years ago
I just read this. Now that is crazy!!! But the good kind!
Thunder.Gerbil
13 years ago
Just sent everyone's info over to Brooke this morning. Please PM me when you receive the packages. Thanks guys.
tailgater
13 years ago
Watch,
Looks like you're driving down the road, smoke in one hand, camera/phone in the other and you're aiming the friggin camera at the burning cigar rather than watch the road while driving.

You from the Boston area?
NJ Navy Chief
13 years ago

watch - was this from a box that you received sealed or from an open box at a b&m? if it was a sealed box could you please pm me the info from the qc sticker on the bottom of the box along with the vendor and approx date of purchase, and I'll make sure Jon gets the info so he can look into it. Thanks.

Thunder.Gerbil wrote:




Actually had the same experience with a full sealed box of Undercrown Toro's I purchased a few months ago. Had absolutely no affect on the smoke. I had two out of the same box that has small patches (one was under the label).

QA guy should be flogged...🐴
NJ Navy Chief
13 years ago

Oh crap, I just went through my stock, and one entire box is patched. Think I can get 25 fivers and 25 t-shirts?

j/king.


4 boxes and not a patch to be found. Are you sure you folks aren't buying 2nds?

dpnewell wrote:




Dave, got mine from the same source as you and I had at least two patched. Took a pic with my phone just for my archives.
watchurai
13 years ago

Watch,
Looks like you're driving down the road, smoke in one hand, camera/phone in the other and you're aiming the friggin camera at the burning cigar rather than watch the road while driving.

You from the Boston area?

tailgater wrote:







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Mathen
13 years ago
tailgater wrote:

Watch,
Looks like you're driving down the road, smoke in one hand, camera/phone in the other and you're aiming the friggin camera at the burning cigar rather than watch the road while driving.

You from the Boston area?



He lives in the middle of nowhere. There is nobody to hit if you're driving distracted. Notice all that pasture in the background? Based on how much cigar is there, I would have bet that he's about halfway down his driveway. Only it's paved, so I know he's made it to the road.
tailgater
13 years ago
Of course he's in the middle of nowhere.
Drew Estate doesn't send those patched bad-boys to the populated areas...



Pheloniousmunk
13 years ago
I'm adding to this thread mostly out of curiousity as I too had a seemingly patched Undercrown, a robbie from the group buy with Gimbel. Mine had what appeared to be a small patch that I happened to notice, but it smoked fine. I'm not trying to get in on the freebies and will not be sending my address, just wonder if there is a link as to where we purchased the UCs? They did smoke just fine and I've been contemplating purchasing more. Mine also had something that appears to be pitch from the cedar sheet inside the box on several wrappers, something I've never seen before, but I've only been buying boxes for about a year now and given that the wood is a natural product I wasn't really surprised to see pitch oozing from it, maybe this isn't unusual?
Thunder.Gerbil
13 years ago

I'm adding to this thread mostly out of curiousity as I too had a seemingly patched Undercrown, a robbie from the group buy with Gimbel. Mine had what appeared to be a small patch that I happened to notice, but it smoked fine. I'm not trying to get in on the freebies and will not be sending my address, just wonder if there is a link as to where we purchased the UCs? They did smoke just fine and I've been contemplating purchasing more. Mine also had something that appears to be pitch from the cedar sheet inside the box on several wrappers, something I've never seen before, but I've only been buying boxes for about a year now and given that the wood is a natural product I wasn't really surprised to see pitch oozing from it, maybe this isn't unusual?

Pheloniousmunk wrote:



Sorry for your experience brother. I will pass it along next time I talk to Jon.

Regarding the patches and how they smoke, the patches were placed there so that the cigars would smoke and draw properly. A patch on the capa (wrapper) is not indicative of anything except that there was a hole in the leaf, which, in most cases, occurs due to insect damage prior to harvest during the growing of the tobacco. It in no way reflects on the filler or binder. I guess a patch that had been applied with an entire bottle of elmers glue could present a problem in the smoking...

Regarding the cedar sheets oozing pitch, most woods could have this problem, just depends on the tree and drying/kilning process. I've seen it before and I'm pretty sure I have a box of Padron 6000s that has that problem too. Now, what I'm concerned with is that you stated it was on several wrappers - the UCs come in cello, are you saying it got through the cello to the capa?
Pheloniousmunk
13 years ago

Sorry for your experience brother. I will pass it along next time I talk to Jon.

Thunder.Gerbil wrote:


Thanks for your concern, not a big deal though, it did smoke fine and I just got done with another that was very enjoyable.

Regarding the cedar sheets oozing pitch, most woods could have this problem, just depends on the tree and drying/kilning process. I've seen it before and I'm pretty sure I have a box of Padron 6000s that has that problem too. Now, what I'm concerned with is that you stated it was on several wrappers - the UCs come in cello, are you saying it got through the cello to the capa?

Thunder.Gerbil wrote:


This isn't a big deal either however I did wonder if it was indicative of the cigars(entire box) being exposed to extreme high temperature in storage or shipping? I have to admit that I carelessly stated wrappers when I should have said cello. Sorry for the confusion.
gimbel
13 years ago
As already mentioned, DE isn't the only company that patches cigars. I attempted to smoke an AF WOAN today, in Russia, that had a patch the size of my thumb covering two large holes in the middle of the stick. It also oozed tar less than one inch in and was "green" to the point of unsmokable. Should have lit an Undercrown.
Pheloniousmunk
13 years ago

As already mentioned, DE isn't the only company that patches cigars. I attempted to smoke an AF WOAN today, in Russia, that had a patch the size of my thumb covering two large holes in the middle of the stick. It also oozed tar less than one inch in and was "green" to the point of unsmokable. Should have lit an Undercrown.

gimbel wrote:


Sounds like you had an authentic Russian rolled Fuente!

Where you at, or can't you say?
Thunder.Gerbil
13 years ago


This isn't a big deal either however I did wonder if it was indicative of the cigars(entire box) being exposed to extreme high temperature in storage or shipping? I have to admit that I carelessly stated wrappers when I should have said cello. Sorry for the confusion.

Pheloniousmunk wrote:




I think it has more to do with green wood than anything else.
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