I spent a lot of time on 85' and unders ............our policy was to always give way regardless of right of way.When I was on 400'rs,Lots of communication between us and merchants.I know that area off Yoko pretty well,heavily congested and merchants do what merchants do.....stay on course and make their scheduled port visits.

Sounds like they found the seven missing.. just not in the condition we hoped for...[-o<

Prayers for the fallen. Bad news.

Prayers as well.

This is truly horrible, and I apologize for joking above

Your joke didn't hurt anything.

I know, but wrong thread

Naaah. No PC here remember. We all hate pc except when we don't.

Psst. I deleted my joke lol.

Do you want me to be brave and undelete it?

😂 😂 😂


Tasteless...but funny. That's how we roll.
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Frank we all know where your heart is...........

Frank, no apology needed.

I'm fine.
This really is heartbreaking though.

Only ship I was "ship's company" on (went EOD after one ship-driver tour and was a passenger from then on out) was 83,000 tons and we'd operate off the coast of SOCAL. Merchants would leave LA/Long Beach, go on "Iron Mike" (autopilot) once in the shipping channel and go to minimal awake crewing. Crossing that shipping channel meant dodging container ships/tankers doing 14 knots in a straight line for as long as they could to keep moving/make money.

Will be interesting to hear what happened-almost always some sort of mechanical or communications issue compounded by human error on one or both bridges.

And my condolences to the crew and families of the FITZGERALD and my brother Navy Divers who had to do a search job that turned into remains recovery. Didn't go on any of those, fortunately.

Hoo-Yah Deep Sea!

Deepest condolences to the families of the sailors who were killed in this collision. News report I heard this morning said the cargo ship had just completed a U-turn when the two ships collided. Investigators are questioning the crew of the cargo ship...

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My experience makes me think they were given a later berthing time than anticipated and "came about" to do a circle or set up for an anchorage.

At least I'm hoping that. Still poor seamanship to do that and plow into another ship.

Shouldn't there have been a dude in da crows nest with binoculars and a bell or somethin..??

What I've read makes me thing the USS FITZGERALD's "OH **** A METER AND ALARM" sounded but not in time to do much. Even small ships like destroyers are limited by fluid dynamics and momentum. When you were trying to "pass astern" and all of a sudden they're coming back at you....

well, we shoulda just blown it in half and drove thru it if you ask me... 😟