You should try leaving the cave sometime 8track. Sunlight causes your body to make nice, refreshing vitamin D. And it's free!

Oriental just means east, I don't know if it' latin or what, like occidental means western. But the good old USA used to have "yellow laws." Especially in California, where there were a lot of orientals. Hitler's pal Goebbels visited America prior to WWII to pick up some useful ideas. Back in the day (around 1900), California senators lobbied Washington with great success to pass discriminatory laws against "orientals". It was ok to kill, cheat, rape, and perform otherwise wholesome activities toward "orientals" back in the good old apple pie days. "Oriental" was the condescending term used to identify these targets of hate, as was the term "negro" in the south, so yea, it's viewed as derrogatory. Now days we call coloreds or negroes "African Americans" and chinks or orientals "Asian Americans," you know, to kind of distance ourselves from our barbaric and immoral national history. I dunno, makes sense to me.

Number nine, number nine, number nine, number nine, number nine, number nein, number nein ...

Pep,

I saw "oriental" used in this thread a few times. If my pigmently-enhanced-person-of-african-decent was correct about Oriental being as bad as ****, I would find it hard to believe it would be bantered around so effortlessly on the thread. Nine doesn't mind Oriental (half of him doesn't mind) and doesn't like the term "Asian", so different strokes for different folks I guess.

Come out of the cave?.......... Sun bad!... Sun BURN!

You speak for Nine? That certainly simplifies things. Have you tried the new "Klan" brand sun screen? It's said to very effective against sun tan (melanin infestation).

Doc, what's eating you, bro?

Racism Bloody. Doc not like.

I know that but it seems as though you're (especially) taking it to heart tonight.

Perhaps a cerveza would take the edge off?

I think that everyone has some sort of racism floating within. It is human to favor those with your own physical "qualities". It's what you DO with these feelings that separate you from the family of man. I don't think that it is easy to judge what is in a man's heart by what he posts on a discount cigar board. I can't think of any personal friends on this board who wouldn't extend the hand of friendship to another who is different.

Really.

Don't you think?

I'm not speaking for NINE, I'm speaking of him.

But you seem hellbent to suggest I'm a cave dwelling racist.

Perhaps some decaf?

There's some to what you say, but some fallacy too. Though it's said by some, not everyone is a racist. I'm not. I don't think my European mutt (English/German/Scottish/whatever) makes me genetically any better or worse than Joe Blow; it's a null factor, therefore I not consider myself a racist. I think white supremacy is a bunk theory, as Hitler was so adept at proving to the world.

And yes I do think you can judge a person's character by what they say, especially if you've been listening to their schpiel for a year or so. How do we reveal our soul if not by our actions, which includes speech?

I have known some really old farts who were racist to the bone, and I thought they were stand up fellows inside, as you say; but most of the guys spitting this venom out here are my juniors, they hardly have culture to fall back on, just ignorance and hatred.

Hey, I may be totally in the wrong to feel such enmity for racism and racists, but that's where I stand on it, and frankly, I get a little tired of hearing the snickers and laughter over it, as if it were some badge of honor. Of course we can disagree over this and the world will continue on as yesterday.

It's not out of spite or revenge that I reject this repugnant human philosophy, but because I believe it is inherently immoral, like child abuse, or lying or cheating. Many find that stuf funny. I don't, but morals are like fashoins, snd they suit different individuals not all in the same way.

Jeeeeeze, my "We are the world" speech didn't affect you, did it, 8?

Dang cave dwelling, foul smelling, racist commie.

Doc, if you genuinely feel that way, then you are better than most.

Unfortunately, most men are flawed.

Yes, it is repugnant and yes, you can judge a man by what he says over time, but I don't have a problem with a person who thinks that their race is the "best" as long as they don't discriminate or exhibit behavior that is detrimental towards another.

I'm fine with pinot noir & my cohiba 8, thanks for the suggestion though. Certainly it isn't a requirement that we agree on all our social and cultural preferences is it? Is it even Possible.

A person is, in part, what thy say; that's their story about theirself and their life. I have my interpretation, you have yours.

Here's a story about racism that shaped my early thinking.

I was about 19, 20, I don't recall. I'm from Texas, an ex-slave state, and back in the 70s good old boys yucked it up about n*****s on a fairly regular basis. My sister was married to a kingpin man, this guy was connected to the hilt, running plane loads of ganga out of Mexico, living the high life as it were. He was a bad MF, had all these baretta 9mm by his bed. He was constantly going off about Americans of African descent. One night after humoring a usual tirade about n****r this n****r that, I asked him if he were comfortable with his bigotry? He looked at me, and got beet red. I realized then that the bigot somehow resents being called that. I found that to be a great irony. Life is full of ironies.

I did learn from him that if you get pinched by the law (he eventually got busted) the way out is this: keep attornies on the payroll to postpone the case over a period of a few years. Then most of the judges and prosecutors move on, and over time your case will get dismissed. He later went into the swimming pool business.

Dr.Pe, #32

I guess that you have a racist take on Jews and Bingo.

I am an age-ist and think of bingo as something old-timers do. Rick is old. Get it.

I wouldn't think you'd want to bring up that thread as you end up looking like a complete ass.

Wanna talk fourth amendment yet or just keep calling me un-American and unchristian because I don't see the right to an abortion in the constitution? We can but your odds of winning aren’t any better here, and since you crawled away on that thread I don’t see the upside for you to continue it here.

Lightweight.

ok, i am from alabama so i have to comment

dr pepper, in the beginning, the KKK did alot of good things. before you have a cow, let me explain:

if a man (black or white) did not provide for his family, they took him out and beat him. but from then on, he provided.

if a man beat his wife or kids, they took care of it.

if there was any injustice to anyone that the "law" couldn't take care of, they handled it.

now. the black/white marriage/dating thing was prohibited by society. this was right after the civil war, and things were not as they are today.

ok, i am from alabama so i have to comment

dr pepper, in the beginning, the KKK did alot of good things. before you have a cow, let me explain:

if a man (black or white) did not provide for his family, they took him out and beat him. but from then on, he provided.

if a man beat his wife or kids, they took care of it.

if there was any injustice to anyone that the "law" couldn't take care of, they handled it.

now. the black/white marriage/dating thing was prohibited by society. this was right after the civil war, and things were not as they are today.

Blood, a person who thinks that their race is the "best" can't help but discriminate or exhibit behavior that is detrimental towards others. There's quite a difrence between healthy self-esteem and contempt of others based on their physical appearance.

they have got out of hand now. and i do not agree with it now, or what the KKK stands for now. just an interesting observation from my grandmother that is 92......

Mrs. 18delta, with all due respect, the KKK were and are terrorists.

8 doesn't hate other races Dr.P. he just hates you.

And wedgies....Dr. P and wedgies is all he hates.

And the yankees... Dr. P, wedgies, and the Yankees is all he hates.

really.

Check out Cbid's published "Rules & Regulations."

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Disparaging a race. Hell it's in the damn forum rules.

So much for rules.