RICKAMAVEN
Sunday, July 9, 2006 12:29:00 AM
nine999

now you are trying to make me laugh.

i remain fix focused. i am going to the oink board.

maybe a peek at a nipple will shake me loose.

8trackdisco
Sunday, July 9, 2006 9:41:00 AM
Ah heck, its been a while. Why not.

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'..8track,

You have a black friend?

Cool...I have a couple too.

In fact, I have them over to my house all the time.

See....I'm not racist..'

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Are you sure these people you speak of aren't a lighter shade of black? Maybe brown? I remember you telling me about your fantasy home on the US/Mexico border and how it was overrun with illegals.

Or are you talking about your houseboys (scantily clad per your request) that run around your apartment while you eat grapes on a stick?

Try not to get my real, and your fantasy life confused.

Now, I need to kidnap an Native American and hold him hostage while I smoke a cigar. That's what I do, because gain adroomi's acceptance is very, very important to me.

Oh.... and because I'm a racist. Almost forgot.

adroomi
Sunday, July 9, 2006 6:37:00 PM
The other day I was talking to one of my friends for a couple of hours, and then suddenly I thought, Holy Cow, this guy's a Jew!

Up until that moment, I hadn't realized it.

I have a Jewish friend.

I am not a racist.

8trackdisco
Sunday, July 9, 2006 7:03:00 PM
How could you tell he was Jewish?
8trackdisco
Sunday, July 9, 2006 7:04:00 PM
You anti-semite.
pabloescabar
Sunday, July 9, 2006 7:08:00 PM
y'all is the bigest bunch'o raceiest's I have ever met
Sboecker1
Sunday, July 9, 2006 7:16:00 PM
Also, if you refer to any group as "you people" or "those people"....THAT is racism.

If you refer to YOUR OWN group as "my people", it is just ethnic pride.

Really? That's a crock of s**t!

"is there any group, or groups that is made up of all white men or women that is not considered racist?

you have the NAACP, but if there was a white counterpart to it it would be called racist, would it not?

the only people that are allowed to express their opinion freely or their views without being labled a racist are minorities or liberals. a conservitive, Christian is only allowed to go along with "society" and never speak out without being called a racsist/bigot. from what i have seen, there is more hostility/hate coming from liberals and minorities. they think they can shove their choices/beliefs down everyones throat and everyone must accept it, or they play the racist card. example:

i think homosexuality is wrong and sick and i would never teach my children this right..........what does that make me? "

That is one of the best posts I have ever seen here!

Nothing but TRUTH!!!!!!!

pabloescabar
Sunday, July 9, 2006 7:28:00 PM
It must be racists keeping the Rug'z from going to the Midwest Herf !!!
RICKAMAVEN
Sunday, July 9, 2006 8:05:00 PM
Sboecker1 147

there are two groups

one is called republicans.

and for the women it's called "dauaghter's of the american revolution."

membership is open to any woman 18 years or older-regardless of race, religion, or ethnic background- who can prove lineal descent from a patriot of the american revolution, is eligible for

membership.

i wouldn't look for many oriental faces, or black faces, and probably not too many jews, as members.

"i think homosexuality is wrong and sick and i would never teach my children this right....." i think you mean this (is) right and you should not teach them anything that goes against your morals and ideals.

adroomi
Sunday, July 9, 2006 8:26:00 PM
Sboeker,

You should take a class or two and then you might understand it better. You see, anytime you use a persons ethnic group, or sexual identity to keep them "lower" or "oppressed," you are perpetuating racism.

You yourself admittedly call certain groups "minorities."

To a minority, calling them "you people," or "those people" is singling them out, and classifying them as a "different, and lesser, not equal" group. This is what makes them so angry. It's just a shorter way of saying "you black people" or "you Jewish people." I'm sure you don't get it though, right? Walk into the "bad" side of town, and enter into a dirt poor "jazz bar," full of about a hundred blacks. Make sure you're the only white guy there. Let 10 or 15 of them stare at you as you enter, and then have a guy walk up to you and say, "what makes one of 'you people' want to come in here anyway?" "you people are crazy." You'll MIGHT feel what it's like to be a minority then. After all, all you wanted was a beer. You were hoping everyone would be cool, but you suddenly feel "unwelcomed."

Your ignorance about the NAACP is quite evident. You assume it's a group for blacks right? You've never considered that it's a group advocating the "advancement" of the minority "colored" groups to the equal status of whites, have you? It's NOT about advancing colored people to a HIGHER status, than whites, but rather to an EQUAL status.

Your question about having a group that advocates the advancement of white people is the typical undeducated, ignorant one that most borderline racists ask. If you honestly cannot see the blatant unfairness and overt racism that would be present in a group called the "National Association for the Advancement of White People," then you are a lost cause. To try to advance minorities to the equal level of whites is one thing, to try to FURTHER advance whites above minorities is a different game, my friend.

You claim that only minorities or liberals are allowed to express thier views, while "conservative Christians" are not allowed to. Do you NOT see your underlying message there? You see minorities and liberals as one group, but yet you see Conservative Christians as another. Being that blacks, hispanics, Jews, asians, and "others" all belong to the minority group, you are therefore stating it to be your opinion that "conservative Christians" are most certainly WHITE. Do you NOT see the message you are sending out? Minorities and liberals are NOT white conservative Christians, and do NOT belong to your group. That's your message as it's perceived by a minority.

You gave an example of minorities "shoving their beliefs down your throat." You further stated that "homosexuality is wrong and sick."

Do you really think a gay man wants to turn you into a homosexual? All he REALLY wants is equal rights. You don't have to agree with his life style, but when he can't get a job, or get equal housing for himself, or walk down the street without fearing his personal security, due to some a-hole thinking that his "life" is wrong and sick, he is being oppressed.

As for not teaching your children that there are in fact gays and lesbians in the world, and that they need to be treated with dignity and respect just as they would want to be treated themselves.......well, I'd say that makes you a prejudiced butthole, that will continue to breed hatred and non-acceptance of the beauty of the difference in all of us. I'd also call you a racist, because I'm willing to bet that you have a few other choice terms for minorities that you simply wouldn't use in public, but use quite freely in private.

Am I wrong?

18delta
Sunday, July 9, 2006 8:43:00 PM
adroomi,

why, if the minority is not dictating what we teach and believe,is there books in our PUBLIC elementary about "my two mommy's" or "my two daddy's".

this is the minority trying to teach my kids it is ok to be gay and that is a moral question that should be left out of our school system all together.

Also, try being white from a middle class and getting into college, there is no group to help. that is my point. the white man being superior? maybe 100 years ago but in order for a white man to open a small business is almost impossible without his own financial backing. However there is thousands of grants for the minorities....hell just look at all the chinese and mexican resturants popping up........i work for them and they all get government funding. OR the last point try getting a house loan........but a mexican can live here and work for one year and porve employment and get up to 80,000 loan for a house......without credit.

yes that is fair......

adroomi
Sunday, July 9, 2006 8:58:00 PM
Mrs18,

You know I love you......however.....

When I was four years old, there was a group that tried to ban Kermit the Frog from singing "it's not easy being green" to us kids in kindergarten. He was, after all, talking about the difficulties in being a minority, and that we should all learn to be proud of who we are, and to accpet others that are not like us. The group that tried to stop him felt he was trying to turn thier kids into n*gger lovers. True story by the way. Sound familiar?

I was a white kid from the "lower" middle class. I went to school, and finished a terminal degree. Plenty of scholarships out there. My undergrad and grad school was in fact almost free. It's simply a matter of applying for them.

Of the small business loans that were available last year, according to the National Community Reinvestment Coalition, most that were applied for, were granted. Of these, a minority is less-likely to be approved. Further, according to the NCRC, the reason you see so many asian, and minority owned businesses popping up, is because THEY are the ones applying for the loans. Typical middle class whites do NOT apply for loans for small businesses.

Generally, the asians and the blacks are taking the money and starting businesses, while the whites are working in their middle class jobs complaining about it, and NOT applying for loans. When the whites get disapproved for the loans, they blame the minorities.

MikeyRavioli
Monday, July 10, 2006 5:37:00 AM
My grandfather taught me something about racism at a young age and it stayed with me. He told me "You shouldn't hate someone becuase of their race, religion, or country of origin. Those are all surface traits and not good enough reasons to hate. If you take the time to get to know someone, how they think, what motivates them, what factors in their lives made them the way they are, you will realize most people are **** and then you will have good enough reason to hate them."

Reject people in groups. Accept them as individuals.

scompay
Monday, July 10, 2006 7:25:00 AM
Great post mike....actually, exceptionally astute.
adroomi
Monday, July 10, 2006 7:35:00 AM
My Grandpa taught me not to hate. He did teach me to fish though. He was a great fisherman. At least to me.

I learned over the years that most people are intrinsically good at heart, and that we all share generally the same hopes, dreams, and aspirations.

I try to keep the hatred out of my heart. It's not what the Lord God wants from me.....

MikeyRavioli
Monday, July 10, 2006 9:15:00 AM
This conversation reminds me of something else my grandpa used to say.

"I'm gonna go upstairs and bang the **** out of your grandmother. Stay here"

Good times.

scompay
Monday, July 10, 2006 11:21:00 AM
Rickmaven,

In my post about the potato famine: You asked for sympathy claiming your family lived through the Irish potato famine.

Now you demand consideration for your Jewish ancestry enduring persecution.

I am sure your grandkids will whine about how their granddaddy lived through Aids and the intolerance towards turd burglary.

It reminds me of Lieutenant Dan from Forrest Gump. He however did eventually ask himself if it was worth it all.

And Rick, you say that mothers milk makes you Jewish. Most leprechauns would argue that daddy’s whiskey makes you Irish.

Lighten up a little, sounds you have it made compared to your ancestors.

andytv
Monday, July 10, 2006 12:04:00 PM
re #153.

I have come to this conclusion myself Mike!

Your Grandfather was very wise.

8trackdisco
Monday, July 10, 2006 12:18:00 PM
'..turd burglary..'

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Turd Burglary? I'm not sure why I'm giggling, (maybe because I'm only 10) but I am.

Compay, get use to it. Two years ago adroomi was of Hispanic heritage. Six months ago he told us, he was raised a poor white kid in Illinois.

People evolve, so do their stories. This is the Land of Opportunity. Look at Michael Jackson. Born a black man, and is now a white woman. Anything is possible.

Dr Pepperhill
Monday, July 10, 2006 1:47:00 PM
Turd Burgler might be mildly humorous if homosexuals in this country had the same legal rights as other citizens; hey, humor's subjective. As it is, it's about as uproarious as calling an African American a porch monkey before the civil rights act was passed, or calling an Asian American a **** back when yellow laws were in force.

Kick the dog, watch it yelp and run, have a good laugh; but kicking the dog while it's down is just plain mean.