victor809
6 years ago
So a few interesting thoughts...

1- when we are cremated we reduce the complex carbon molecules down to the simplest form and the energy in the bonds is released. We are essentially reducing the available energy for life on the planet by a small fractional amount.

2 - I looked into those companies that make diamonds out of your ashes... They don't use all of them. They imply that they take this large pile of "you" and compress it into a diamond. Reality is they take a small amount of that large pile, press that in with whatever other materials they normally use to make cubic zirconia, and toss the rest.

It seems most rational to be buried without a box in a manner that promotes decomposition... That way your useful molecules are most efficiently used and dispersed. I think there are some hippies that have a natural burial site somewhere. But I dunno.

DrafterX
6 years ago
But da worms will eat into your brains... 😟
MACS
6 years ago

But da worms will eat into your brains... 😟

DrafterX wrote:



You assume much... 🤣
jjanecka
6 years ago
My parents paid for their lots and caskets already, just need to pay the site fee for burial once they pass on and everything else is already taken care of. My grandparents did the same. Really greatfull seeing that. If you're older and haven't looked into a prepaid burial plan they're worth it. Less hassle on your kids, harder to take advantage of the bereaved when everything is pre-arranged.
victor809
6 years ago
I've never understood burial plots... Seems wasteful. As the population increases and plots turn over slower than one generation, we'll have more and more otherwise useable land occupied by a single dead body that's not decomposing because it's locked in a box.

Anyone read the book Stiff? (Not a Frankie tripod biography)
frankj1
6 years ago
I turned down being the model for the cover art
victor809
6 years ago
Well that certainly wouldn't have fit on the paperback version
teedubbya
6 years ago
Is it a pop up book?
jjanecka
6 years ago
I could only imagine the class action suit for the number of busted eyes.
Gene363
6 years ago

This most likely. Although, I do have reservations. Mainly concerning the poor bastages going to get assigned the detail. Those don't always go well. 🤦

USNGunner wrote:



You bring up an interesting point. When my Wife's Father passed he wanted his ashes to go to sea, he was a merchant marine seaman. I made the arrangements with a funeral home in Charleston, SC. Since i am pretty plain speaking the funeral director and I had a frank talk about the arrangements. In this state you do not need a casket to be cremated, however the funeral home had a charge of $75 for a pre-cremation container. He said, The container is actually optional, however it's was preferred by our staff. You can imagine when the work is stacked up and they have to load multiple bodies for processing." No problem, very reasonable.8-[

He knew we were going to return the remains to the ocean and offered to take them out in his boat, no charge, he needed another excuse to take it our anyway. When we explained we meeting some of his friends to post the remains in the ocean he gave use directions to the perfect spot, near Fort Moultree, then he gave us a warning, "You've probably never done this before, do pay attention to the wind so you don't end up with a facefull of remains."
Speyside
6 years ago
So why would anyone plot against a cemetery? Tail, glad you caught it in time.
RMAN4443
6 years ago
cemeteries….those places are all about the plots...8-[
izonfire
6 years ago
I can dig it
USNGunner
6 years ago

You bring up an interesting point. When my Wife's Father passed he wanted his ashes to go to sea, he was a merchant marine seaman. I made the arrangements with a funeral home in Charleston, SC. Since i am pretty plain speaking the funeral director and I had a frank talk about the arrangements. In this state you do not need a casket to be cremated, however the funeral home had a charge of $75 for a pre-cremation container. He said, The container is actually optional, however it's was preferred by our staff. You can imagine when the work is stacked up and they have to load multiple bodies for processing." No problem, very reasonable.8-[

He knew we were going to return the remains to the ocean and offered to take them out in his boat, no charge, he needed another excuse to take it our anyway. When we explained we meeting some of his friends to post the remains in the ocean he gave use directions to the perfect spot, near Fort Moultree, then he gave us a warning, "You've probably never done this before, do pay attention to the wind so you don't end up with a facefull of remains."

Gene363 wrote:




Yeah. This. We had a chaplain that wouldn't listen. The family wanted the urn returned. I told the sky pilot, let's transfer the remains to another disposable container, and let that go into the wake. No. They were videoing the ceremony for the family and he wanted to sprinkle them out. "Chaplain, it's really windy out there today." He insisted.

Sure as hell, me an my guys are online to render honors, the rifle salute, and as he empties the urn as a gust of wind hits us right in the face. A massive updraft from the hull and he's covered, we're covered, one of the guys got a mouthful and is losing it.

Did I mention it was being videotaped? In living color? Not good. They wanted us to do a "do over" for video. I told them we could, but I wasn't going to feel good about it, and all our dress white uniforms were trashed.

We didn't do it so I'm not sure what they ended up doing about the video. The Skipper mentioned to me later that I should maximize those guys liberty when we got back into port, and there was no way he could send that to the bereaved. He did replace our whites for us too, he was good dude.
Gene363
6 years ago

Yeah. This. We had a chaplain that wouldn't listen. The family wanted the urn returned. I told the sky pilot, let's transfer the remains to another disposable container, and let that go into the wake. No. They were videoing the ceremony for the family and he wanted to sprinkle them out. "Chaplain, it's really windy out there today." He insisted.

Sure as hell, me an my guys are online to render honors, the rifle salute, and as he empties the urn as a gust of wind hits us right in the face. A massive updraft from the hull and he's covered, we're covered, one of the guys got a mouthful and is losing it.

Did I mention it was being videotaped? In living color? Not good. They wanted us to do a "do over" for video. I told them we could, but I wasn't going to feel good about it, and all our dress white uniforms were trashed.

We didn't do it so I'm not sure what they ended up doing about the video. The Skipper mentioned to me later that I should maximize those guys liberty when we got back into port, and there was no way he could send that to the bereaved. He did replace our whites for us too, he was good dude.

USNGunner wrote:



OMG!

FWIW, the funeral home had a showroom just for cremations that included completely combustable caskets all manner of urns and urns specifically designed for use in water. Some just sank, some would dissolve and others had holes thet opened in the water.
dstieger
6 years ago

This most likely. Although, I do have reservations. Mainly concerning the poor bastages going to get assigned the detail. Those don't always go well. 🤦

USNGunner wrote:




I have a number of stories....way too many burials at sea end poorly.

Just due to the 'hassle' from arrival of remains on the pier until ceremonies completed.....PITA for a LOT of Sailors....for that reason alone, I vowed to be buried at sea just to provide one last prolonged annoyance


Actually, wife and I plan to be cremated and be interred in Arlington Columbariam....but, in recent years, we've talked about just being scattered in our favorite lake. Scattered my dad at his favorite lake in Canada, and it was good for mom....and us, too.
DrMaddVibe
6 years ago
Cremated and spread in my favorite spot on the planet. It was a low, it was a high, it was a place of constant solace.

She loved my idea and wants the same for her.

Hitch is, all the kids and my boys in attendance...just like when we started.

I can see no need for taking up space where they could build a playground, a school or a church. None. Don't need a headstone for people to visit. They already know I was here.
delta1
6 years ago
yep...cremated and ashes scattered at some of our fave places....

I don't swim well but do enjoy fishing and relaxing at the ocean and a few lakes, so my wife and kids asked if I really wanted some ashes put into bodies of water...
RMAN4443
6 years ago

yep...cremated and ashes scattered at some of our fave places....

I don't swim well but do enjoy fishing and relaxing at the ocean and a few lakes, so my wife and kids asked if I really wanted some ashes put into bodies of water...

delta1 wrote:


once you get to that point, swimming(or not) won't be much of a factor....8-[
Hank_The_Tank
6 years ago
I assume I will pass before my wife does, so I say it is her call, otherwise my kids can decide. If they want an open casket and burial, that's fine, if they want me cremated, that is fine as well. Whatever helps them cope the best.

When my mom passed away unexpectedly, we couldn't stand the thought of an open casket and the full grave site thing, so we had her cremated. For us it was much better that way.
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