HockeyDad
5 years ago

So, we shouldn't judge the entirety of the protest based on the actions of a few bad apples? Seems we should be applying the same standard to the police, no?

Stogie1020 wrote:



I heard it was systemic so I think that means they’re all racist cops.
Smooth light
5 years ago
Each side should "CURB THEIR OWN DOGS."

Responsibility goes both ways,

Everybody has a right to MY opinion, and your's too. 1st amendment.

Ban the blocking on stool media, we get to choose.
frankj1
5 years ago
people would not like the stats of total right wing/left wing incidences of violence stemming from protests.
They'd like the number breakdown of who is doing it even less.
HockeyDad
5 years ago
98.2% left wing?
Stogie1020
5 years ago

people would not like the stats of total right wing/left wing incidences of violence stemming from protests.
They'd like the number breakdown of who is doing it even less.

frankj1 wrote:


That's the thing, there is NO violence at left wing protest (so says the media and the left wing politicians...). It's all "peaceful looting and arson and assault and criminal damage"...
delta1
5 years ago

So, we shouldn't judge the entirety of the protest based on the actions of a few bad apples? Seems we should be applying the same standard to the police, no?

Stogie1020 wrote:




no...the police have sworn an oath to the protect the safety of the people, and to uphold the local govt laws, the state laws, and to uphold the Constitution...

they have been granted authority and power over the average citizen...

they are also provided some limited immunity from prosecution not available to ordinary citizens...

so they are rightfully held to higher standards


but this higher standard does not mean we can declare open season on law enforcement if they fail to live up to the standards...a police force that distrusts and is fearful of the people they serve is incapable of serving well...
frankj1
5 years ago

So, we shouldn't judge the entirety of the protest based on the actions of a few bad apples? Seems we should be applying the same standard to the police, no?

Stogie1020 wrote:


yes. and probably to many other sweeping indictments too!
frankj1
5 years ago

That's the thing, there is NO violence at left wing protest (so says the media and the left wing politicians...). It's all "peaceful looting and arson and assault and criminal damage"...

Stogie1020 wrote:


that's silly.
Smooth light
5 years ago
Seeing is believing,99.99precent of the time.
smell like it, taste like it, feels like it, walks like it,pretty sure it is codswallop.💩

Same as it ever was 🌝
bgz
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5 years ago

That’s a rally, not a protest or looting. Apples/Oranges.

HockeyDad wrote:



So peaceful rallies are ok?

So protesters, looters and rioters don't rally, they only protest...

I think I understand...

Higher order criminals like drug dealers/pharmacists, charlatan's, preachers, biker gang members (they're richer, they drive Harleys), lawyers, etc... ... drug manufacturers, swindlers, pump and dumpers, tax cheats, and people that hate protesters... rally.

I get it!

Smooth light
5 years ago
Call'im like you see them 👀.

Or just delusional prejudice.😠

Got stoned and miss it, maybe?🤔
Buckwheat
5 years ago

See, even trump says there's good people on both sides.

His opinion probably shifted though... haven't been keeping up.

So the logic goes... all looters are protesters therefore all protesters are looters.

K, got it. So the only way to not be a looter is to not protest. Makes sense.

So I should definitely lock my doors when driving past a pro life rally.

Everyone loves the first ammendment till they have to hear the whiney people they don't agree with... then they all must be looters and rioters. It's true by the above logic.

Keep in mind... this post isn't an argument for either side of the specific topic at hand.

bgz wrote:




"I hate Illinois Nazis." - JJ 🌫
RayR
5 years ago

"I hate Illinois Nazis." - JJ 🌫

Buckwheat wrote:



Frank doesn't believe Nazi's are socialists
bgz maybe feels the same?

That's what left-of-center types do when the actions and thoughts of leftist factions get uncomfortable, they are transformed by propaganda into part of the far-right, which was done for them many decades ago. At one time the American left-progressives thought German Nazi's and Italian fascists were cool beans, but after their true nature was revealed, leftist propagandists banished them to the far-right. Neat trick huh?

Lefties also can't face it that the left from its Jacobin origins has always been the source of virtually all political evils. Political violence, economic violence and even physical violence is not out of the question, which is painfully obvious to anyone that has not been living under a rock.
The leftist press, leftist politicians and their sycophants try to cover for them, like transforming rioters, looters and arsonists into peaceful protesters, justice warriors and even freedom fighters. Or even ignoring that they even exist.
The leftist press tries to cover for the leftist politicians by portraying them in a undeserving favourable light, as caring for da little people (not like those rotten right-wingers), and as the only road to truth, justice and the America way. The leftist press and the Leftist Social Media Tech Tyrants covers for the alleged crimes of the leftist political class by ignoring the story completely, censoring facts and opinions or cancel culture. Twitter locked The New York Post's account after they posted the Hunter Biden laptop story for example.

bgz
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5 years ago
And the right has cookies and milk, debates ethics all day, and never ever talks about how sh*tty the left is?

Fox news deleted my comment because I said trump is not a Republican (he's not)... That was the last time I posted on that site.

This site is great, allows you to post your non-stop left bashing drivel that you spew... And I think that's great!!!

I think truly under the hood you actually believe the bs you spew, so I won't knock you for that...

But you literally just said that the left created evil... and that's funny!

The left are a subset of people... people suck. You've just put a name to everything you consider evil and things you hate... you call it the left.

Again... you consider anything that is evil to be the left.

Sounds to me like in the world of RayRay, the only thing good and wholesome in this world is RayRay... everything else spawn of commie leftish trash.

Oh, and to answer your question, no, I don't consider nazis to be right wing or left wing, I consider them to be nazis... I'm not sure which side actually supports genocide and eugenics by death camp so that shouldn't even be a partisan issue.

tonygraz
5 years ago
bgz - you forgot to tell him to turn the clock back Saturday night - 30 years.
Stogie1020
5 years ago

no...the police have sworn an oath to the protect the safety of the people, and to uphold the local govt laws, the state laws, and to uphold the Constitution...

they have been granted authority and power over the average citizen...

they are also provided some limited immunity from prosecution not available to ordinary citizens...

so they are rightfully held to higher standards


but this higher standard does not mean we can declare open season on law enforcement if they fail to live up to the standards...a police force that distrusts and is fearful of the people they serve is incapable of serving well...

delta1 wrote:



I completely agree, and as such, each INDIVIDUAL officer should be held accountable for his/her actions. Full investigations, complete evidence and the results of the investigations should always be made public. However, defunding police, mob rule, riots based on lies and half truths, and the notion that once race should be treated differently by the police/justice system than other races is absurd.
RayR
5 years ago

And the right has cookies and milk, debates ethics all day, and never ever talks about how sh*tty the left is?

Fox news deleted my comment because I said trump is not a Republican (he's not)... That was the last time I posted on that site.

This site is great, allows you to post your non-stop left bashing drivel that you spew... And I think that's great!!!

I think truly under the hood you actually believe the bs you spew, so I won't knock you for that...

But you literally just said that the left created evil... and that's funny!

The left are a subset of people... people suck. You've just put a name to everything you consider evil and things you hate... you call it the left.

Again... you consider anything that is evil to be the left.

Sounds to me like in the world of RayRay, the only thing good and wholesome in this world is RayRay... everything else spawn of commie leftish trash.

Oh, and to answer your question, no, I don't consider nazis to be right wing or left wing, I consider them to be nazis... I'm not sure which side actually supports genocide and eugenics by death camp so that shouldn't even be a partisan issue.

bgz wrote:



I wasn't talking about the right, its nature, or it's problems, the Republican Party, it's origins or whether Trump is a Republican or not. I've talked about some of that stuff before and I've got no problem continuing to discuss it. But here I was just talking about the left only, so I don't want to listen to whataboutisms.

BTW, I was deleted from the Red State forum a long time ago because the rabid neocons didn't like what I had to say either.😁 I've had a few comments disappear on YouTube too, probably because I deviated from the censors allowable range of opinion.

Anyway, ideas have meaning, words have meaning, history has meaning. Things that just randomly pop out of your head with no foundation doesn't mean much of anything, all they are is feelings.

Now instead of attacking the messenger, how about attacking the ideas? If you can rationally make a case with facts and evidence to disprove anything I said as untrue, be my guest. I listen, otherwise all I will hear is crickets. 🦗🦗🦗






RayR
5 years ago

bgz - you forgot to tell him to turn the clock back Saturday night - 30 years.

tonygraz wrote:



Chirp, Chirp, Chirp...🦗🦗🦗
bgz
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5 years ago
To summarize what was said in my post.

This forum is great, it allows everyone to say what they want.

You're free to think I'm a leftist idiot.

I'm free to think you're an idiot in general

And nazis suck.

If anything other than that was the interpretation then you over thought it.
frankj1
5 years ago
Ray, you are totally wrong about Nazis being commies. I'll repeat it, ask Stalin.

And that makes neither of them any good, but it is the truth.
Yes, it challenges the neatly tied up bundle of evil dogma that you have been taught, but one day you'll realize that even you didn't come to your theories without outside influence.

Have yet to say you hate America, though you have claimed I have.
Clearly you dislike our way of governing though, so...
I have asked several times now....Where in the world would you be happy to live?

I'll open it up to make it easier.
What country meets your seal of approval in the last century?
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