Although I don't agree with some of your view points dmjdc I do respect them.

I'm curious about your view of euthenasia (sp?) Although this isn't a subject directly related to abortion it is related to your pro-life views in your previous post. Are you of the belief that life should be preserved no matter what the condition/quality of life is for the particular individual?

plabonte,
euthenasia is a subject that i have grappled with for a long time. in my heart i feel it is inherently wrong for any person or persons to take the life of another no matter what the reason. technically euthenasia would fall in this category, but it is a tough call. you have to understand that even though i have my beliefs, under that umbrella of a belief structure each issue has a different bearing and weight. i feel that i am at point in my life where i can no longer say things like; "i am prochoice, except for this reason or that reason." or "i am against capital punishment except for in cases of this or that." this used to be my youth trying to "have it all" but sometimes in life we have to make decisions based on belief and fact both, make an informed decision and stick to your convictions and be unwavering. euthenasia, to many many people serves as a good thing, and in some cases a very humane thing. i understand this completely and at one time supported the idea. but since it technically falls under my umbrella of the belief that no person should take anothers life, i am not in favor of it.

as a side note. there IS only one instance that i condone taking another individuals life, and im sure this comes as no surprise to many of you, but that is in the case of self protection. that will also include war in cases of immenant danger. i am a loving caring person, but i would "drop" someone in a heartbeat if it meant protecting myself, my family and my country.

dmjdc

I am for feeding the hungry, stopping the abuse, healing the sick, and comforting the sorrowful.

STOP ABORTION! STOP KILLING THE UNBORN! SINNERS!

Guys, try prioritizing your chivalry one of these days. Be a Big Brother or Sister, not a social annoyance. Be a GOOD father or mother, not a judgemental hypocrite. Before you bash those who have made choices, look yourself in the mirror and ask youself if you've loved and supported your children with as much passion as you've directed at this social issue.

I, myself, do NOT believe in abortion, but there are too damn many people suffering out there that need my attention............get it?

btw, dm......when you post an opinion, expect feedback.....it is why these boards are here.

DMJDC - a very well thought out and explained answer. Let me go one step further. It sounds like you don't approve of euthanasia (though it sounds like you do understand why people do it which is very good). In the event that someone is kept alive ONLY by machine, let’s say someone is brain dead but are being kept alive by a breathing apparatus. Is it wrong to disconnect the machine even though there is little to no chance of meaningful recovery? Or is it our obligation to keep and prolong life no matter what?

DMJDC,

Thanks for the response. You have provided some thought provoking ideas. I have also begun to question some of my conflicting personal views for various reasons and enjoy your feedback.

Sonny- I find it interesting that you can insinuate someone is a "judgemental hypocrite" or that they are not a good parent by reading a post on a internet forum. Do have some supernatural power of awareness that the rest of us lack? If not, I would have to come to the conclusion that you are the "judgemental hypocrite" since you have no insight to what type of parent I am nor do you know the choices I have had to make in my life.

B.

sonny lsu,
if you have read any of my previous post you would know that not only do i expect remarks and comments, i welcome it, thats why i post in the first place....get it. 🙂

dmjdc

Simple truths. You don't know what you would do unless you are personally in that situatuion. If it is your loved one under the gun that is smoking then you will probably want to see the person held accountable. If it is your wife, sister, or mother that was raped and with child as a result then you may change your views on abortion. Who is to say unless you have lived it what you might do. I do not support abortion but in the same statement don't support a government telling you what you can and cannot do. For those who are athiest and I know many it will be hard to understand. Call it what goes around comes around, "full circle," or whatever term you may have heard it called; When your life ending is stareing you in the face will you be strong and steadfast in feeling you have done everything you could in life to live right by your fellow man? Seek understanding before you condemn someone for something they have done is all I trying to say.
RJ

plabonte...in response to your question, i am of the opinion that if a person is being kept alive by "artificial" means because they for instance are brain dead, as in your example, it is perfectly alright to discontinue life support. i feel this way because, for example, when a person is brain dead they no longer have neural stimulation and in actuality they are already gone. to make it simple, i feel that if a person is on life support and can not sustain life on their own, and their doctors are of the opinion that this is a permanent condition with no hope of change, it is alright to end life support. again, its just my opinion, but i have come to this opinion over many years. i would love to hear what others think as well.

dmjdc

I am prolife.
I must be a sucky parent.

I'm pro choice.


Does this make me a saint?

RJ,
it is true many peope change their opinion about any given issue, one way or the other, when confronted with that situation. as it pertains to me personally, i have definately come to many of my formed opinions through personal experience. without getting into specifics, trust me, i have seen good people go through tough times, thus the strong feeling i have on the subject.
i too agree that i dont want a government telling me what i can and cant do do some extent. i respectfully remind that we live in a great country with many freedoms, but those freedoms have to be protected. without laws to maintain some type of order, the country would be in chaos. so i think a blanket statement about our government telling what we can and cant do is a little restrictive, but i understand what you are saying. thanx

dmjdc

I'm pro-life, especially as a mother, but think that there definitely should be a choice.

There are many circumstances that would certainly warrant making a choice in whether or not to have an abortion whether I believe that it is right or wrong. I hope to never find myself in that situation!

I'm of the opinion of something that my father taught me long ago...(here comes the religion issue, and I am a Christian but I'm obviously not a Catholic)...he told me that, "celibit men in robes [priests] should not have the power to tell women what to do with their own bodies...nor should our government...a woman should have the right to decide whether my religion or I agree with it or not..."

There will always be 2 sides to this coin...

Target practice anyone?

That's true anarchy is not the answer. I don't have the answers either. Just my opinions. Thank God my mother was pro-life. Just trying to help judgemental people understand that we all have choices. Don't judge unless you are first willing to be judged.
RJ

I'm not so much against a woman's "right to choose".
I'm against calling it a "choice".
Stopping a beating heart is the taking of a life. If that is their choice, so be it.
But don't downplay the reality of it.
We have desensitized young women into believing it is their right, rather than teaching them what it truly is.
If abortion were illegal, there indeed would be backyard procedures with grim consequences.
But if we took the time to tell the truth then the Millions could possibly become only thousands, then the thousands could become hundreds. Until the legal act of abortion became what it should be.
A last resort.

Maybe if more parents were supportive of their pregnant daughters instead of being angry and judgemental, more young women would carry babies to term. There are lots of couples out there who would love a baby, no doubt. Making abortion illegal will prosecute women who are already in crisis, emotionally, spiritually. Will jailing them serve a purpose? What we as parents need to do is convince our children that abortion is the wrong alternative.

dmjdc

maintain your foundation of morals and you will have peace in our life.

plabonte

euthanasia only one letter off, no big deal.

euthanasia: it's my damn life and when i think i have had enough and want to end it, it's my business.


i know not what others chose, but as for me, give me liberty or give me death.

Tailgater, I agree with the philosophy of educating and understanding. Parents do have the responsibility to teach their children and help them understand they love them. Unconditionally if possible. Nor do I agree with abortions - even signed a bill that says every doctor that administers any abortion drug must first present every option available and give a psychological evaluation before and must see the patient atleast twice before administering one. This became a law here last November.
Understand that it is a choice, so is accepting faith, no matter what your religious beliefs or non beliefs. Everything we do is a choice.. however right or wrong.
RJ