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Instead of bashing Obama-What's he done good?
stroke Offline
#101 Posted:
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Drywalldog has a point... Give the guy some credit... at least after he screwed things up he's had the courage to take us back to square one so he can lobby for health care reform... oh, and forget about his steep decline in approval rating, it's just numbers... ;^)
Goathead50 Offline
#102 Posted:
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^ YOU LIE!
fishinguitarman Offline
#103 Posted:
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BAN GOATHEAD!
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#104 Posted:
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in all fairness though, regardless of how much I dislike Pres. Obama's policies, lack of experience and extreme disregard for the desires of those who elected him, I appreciate what he's done with the new credit card laws. However, it's cancelled out by trying to force banks to loan money to people who probably won't pay it back...
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#105 Posted:
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thus keeping us in the little *pickle* we're in...
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#106 Posted:
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^36 serving in the senate while voting "present" 130 times... unfortunately *present* is not an option when you're the Commander In Chief... Meanwhile Gov. Palin actually has responsibility, has to run a gov't (regardles of size) monitoring economy, military, etc... I submit there's a distinct difference here... oh wait, there was that whole *community organizer* thing... I still have yet to figure out what they do...
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#107 Posted:
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I think the libs were simply scared of Palin, hense the severe attacks against here character (to no avail may I add)
DrMaddVibe Offline
#108 Posted:
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I STILL stand behind my teleprompter remark.

He will go down, no the teleprompter will go down in history for making Obama look good while doing something that the talking heads on tv have been doing for decades!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ7dUlRUJIM
fishinguitarman Offline
#109 Posted:
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#107...They are STILL intimidated by her.......
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#110 Posted:
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^108 ha! I love it!
haon123 Offline
#111 Posted:
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robertknyc
drywall, I follow the market for a living so I’ll try to go easy on you. First, as Obama took the lead in the polls the market sold off hard, and the day after he won we had the largest percentage decline the day after an election if I remember the stat correctly. The market continued to fall, more than 33% since election day before it bottomed. The market has basically come right back to where it was on election day so there’s really nothing to brag about.
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HAHAHA. Worldwide financial crisis = Obama's fault.

You suck and you are a liar.
cbc812 Offline
#112 Posted:
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^ #107

Anyone who wasn't scared by the notion of that dimwit running the country shouldn't be allowed to vote or breed.
gringococolo Offline
#113 Posted:
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112 posts and not one serious positive comment. Sad really considering that there is Obama support.

The markets argument is stupid and over simplified to blame or give credit to a president.
stroke Offline
#114 Posted:
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#112, that's kind of hypocritical, isn't it?
HockeyDad Offline
#115 Posted:
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CBC is trying to advance the Democrat mantra of restricting voting rights and government-controlled breeding/mandated abortion.
big chief Offline
#116 Posted:
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an odd/new form of Eugenics, Liberal style!
DrMaddVibe Offline
#117 Posted:
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I WAS serious dammit!!!
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#118 Posted:
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111. Author: haon123

HAHAHA. Worldwide financial crisis = Obama’s fault.

You suck and you are a liar.
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Spoken like an 8-year old child. I never said the worldwide financial crisis was his fault, you smear merchant. That had started before he got elected, and I never even brought the "worldwide financial crisis" up. Typical loser liberal tactic: twist someone's words, then say something like "you suck" and falsely accuse them of lying. What a pathetic excuse for...well, I'll be nice and stop there.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#119 Posted:
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You mean he didn't know the economic state when he was campaigning for the job?

I thought he was getting briefed?

God, if all he's going to do is blame the last guy then why did HE take the job?

He's making Hillary look viable with each passing speech.
stroke Offline
#120 Posted:
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give him a break, he's an innocent young man who's become a puppet for reid, pelosi and the rest of em. And to keep things in perspective, don't over-rate the president's power. It's congress that's the problem. Luckily, even the dems in congress are willing to stand up when things are simply getting carried away.
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#121 Posted:
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Hope and Change sucks.
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#122 Posted:
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^106

Granted you can't vote "present" in the WH, but you can't just run the country on small town charm either dontcha know.

I'm not defending Obama's minimal experience as sufficient to make him "qualified," but Palin can't even hold a candle to Obama's nominal qualifications. She's a hack who gets by on charm - but she's a quick learner and may turn into something yet (hopefully not though).
DrMaddVibe Offline
#123 Posted:
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#122...you're kiding right?
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#124 Posted:
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Sorry to upset you nutcases.

Palin was the poison pill in McCain's presidency. The woman barely knows her ass from a hole in the ground. The prospect of her at the helm is scary.

But I suppose if your understanding of politics is limited to Rush Limbaugh talking points and email forwards, you may have missed this.
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#125 Posted:
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#124...Not buying that for a second.

SHE was the reason why McCain was able to keep the race as close as he did.

When the 2 had to seperate to scour the country it was Palin that was drawing Rolling Stone concert-like attendance figures, NOT McCain and he was at the top of the ticket!

Her "outside the beltway" politco was exactly what America wanted.
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#126 Posted:
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93. Author: drywalldog

"You give Obama the credit for it tanking, right? Then he get’s the credit for it coming back. You also say that whatever he has done hasn’t brought back the economy, really, you think it’s a fair assesment after 8 months in office, most of the money from the stimulus bill hasn’t even reached the economy yet."

So if you borrow my car and then wreck it, I'm supposed to give you extra credit for having it restored to the condition it was in when you took it out? Please. Besides the stimulus which is not working as promised, please tell me what Obama is doing or has proposed that will boost the economy? If you can't name anything, then what are you arguing, that somehow because he sits in the White House that he should get credit for what millions of individuals are doing to get their own businesses moving again? Where are the tax cuts that led us out of recessions when Reagan and Bush II were in office?
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98. Author: drywalldog
"Wow Robert, you make this harder than it has to be, let’s see the bottom in Obama’s tenure was in March 2009 at 6626. It is now 9626 for a turnaround of exactly 3000 points. Any more questions?"

Again, using the wrecked car analogy, this is like you pointing to the condition it was in as it sits in the body shop before repairs begin. Then it gets fixed back to where it was before you wrecked it and you're supposed to be some genius wizard? Please.
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99. Author: drywalldog
"Markets swing on their own, neat, guess nothing anyone does makes them go up or down then. You can’t have it both ways."

The notion that a president of any party should be given total credit or blame for every single market movement is of course preposterous. But, there are times when a direct link can be drawn, such as the market experiencing its single largest one-day loss after a presidential election, culminating with a 33% loss before it bottomed. That was the market voting with its feet on the impending Obama presidency. The fact that it has returned to roughly where it was before he was elected is more a result of the tendency of the market to advance over the long term than any Obama policy you can point to. Again I will ask, what policies of his can you point to that should be given credit for turning the economy around? The "stimulus" is temporary and when the money runs out what will be left to restore things?
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#127 Posted:
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^ #125

You actually believe that? LMMFAO

Palin lost the election for McCain. Plenty of people I know held their noses and voted for Obama because they were terrified of having that nut in the White House.

Whatever you need to tell yourself. Bring on Palin in 2012 - the total destruction of the right-wing fringe of the Republican Party will be assured.
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#128 Posted:
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"But, there are times when a direct link can be drawn, such as the market experiencing its single largest one-day loss after a presidential election"

And statements like this are what make you a liar.
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#129 Posted:
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I'm not saying she's running in 2012.

Personally, I believe she's through with politics.
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#130 Posted:
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#123

Nope, not kidding at all. Small town votes don't win elections, the middle 10% does and they obviously didn't buy her charm over Obama's time inside the beltway. It's okay though, if R's want to keep running charm-based elections I will be quite happy. Personally, I think you guys would be bat**** crazy not to put Romney up next time around.
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#131 Posted:
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Mittens = Epic Fail.
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#132 Posted:
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Assured us that the Democrats will not hold the power after the next elections....he has done a great job of that.

Charlie
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#133 Posted:
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#122, "Granted you can’t vote "present" in the WH, but you can’t just run the country on small town charm either dontcha know.

I’m not defending Obama’s minimal experience as sufficient to make him "qualified," but Palin can’t even hold a candle to Obama’s nominal qualifications."

Would you care to share with me his qualifications? I seemed to have missed that memo....

#124 "Palin was the poison pill in McCain’s presidency. The woman barely knows her ass from a hole in the ground. The prospect of her at the helm is scary."

Apparently you didn't follow the campaign... McCain's numbers sky-rocketed when he took on Palin, and when he began to stifle her they started to ease back down. You're just like you're party, all hooplah and nothing solid to back it up with. Just throwing out cuts across the isle because you have no figures or facts to back yourself.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

Pres. Obama has already *won* an approval rating of +- 50%!

FURTHERMORE, if you want to compare VPs, google Palin blunders and then google Biden blunders... I rest my case.
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#134 Posted:
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How much time did Obama actually spend "inside" The Beltway?

PS: I know he was a US Senator, but for the sake of throwing the baby out with the bathwater...subtract the time spent campaigning off the total.

Here's a headstart...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ah9W24oMIRc

"Inside"...riiiight!
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#135 Posted:
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-He hasn't started an additional, unneeded war.
-His VP hasn't shot anybody.
-He called Kanye West a jackass.
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#136 Posted:
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He called a white cop doing his job a raciest
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#137 Posted:
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by the way, need I remind anyone that Palin didn't run for president? Imagine comparing Biden to McCain....
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#138 Posted:
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^
(that's not good)
DrMaddVibe Offline
#139 Posted:
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-He hasn’t started an additional, unneeded war.

He hasn't ended one either!

-His VP hasn’t shot anybody.

It's not even hunting season yet!


-He called Kanye West a jackass.

"In the process of reporting on remarks by President Obama that were made during a CNBC interview, ABC News employees prematurely tweeted a portion of those remarks that turned out to be from an off-the-record portion of the interview. This was done before our editorial process had been completed. That was wrong. We apologize to the White House and CNBC and are taking steps to ensure that it will not happen again."
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#140 Posted:
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128. Author: haon123

"But, there are times when a direct link can be drawn, such as the market experiencing its single largest one-day loss after a presidential election"

And statements like this are what make you a liar.
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Ah, the ignorant smear merchant is back. So when the market gapped down about 8% after 9/11 no link could be drawn? When there was a Russian coup in the early 90s and the market broke down, no link could be drawn? When the Enron scandal broke and the market sold off, no link could be drawn? When the Fed unexpectedly cuts interest rates and the market goes up, no link can be drawn? When the unemployment figures released on a Friday morning are way out of line with expecations and the market reacts, no link can be drawn? When we have the single largest percentage market decline the day after a presidential election, no link can be drawn?

Clearly you are an uninformed liberal hack who signs on to the Alinksy tactic of smearing your political opponents. It hasn't worked, so you can remain the loser that you are.
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#141 Posted:
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I bet if FDR was president the war'd be over...
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#142 Posted:
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^Here Here!
Goathead50 Offline
#143 Posted:
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142 for 140
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#144 Posted:
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FDR was a differant time. USA had balls then.
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#145 Posted:
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differant = different
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#146 Posted:
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^ #133

"You’re just like you’re party"

I'm just like I am party? Wha????
Goathead50 Offline
#147 Posted:
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I just like to party!
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#148 Posted:
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#142 here here! That's our problem.... Libs... I "know somebody" who spent two years on deployment and I'll tell you one thing... the press should not be involved in the matters of combat. Ignorance is bliss, and when people who do not understand the nature of combat decide to govern it, wars get drawn out for 8 years... Let war be war and we'll end it!!!
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#149 Posted:
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my point exactly, cbc... got nothing so you attack a typo? my bad... you need to gain some knowledge of current events and politics and brush up YOUR ability to debate...
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#150 Posted:
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#139 Dr. Vibe.

On or off the record, he still said it.
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