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So their point is the same powers that be that f*cked the system up in the first place (or translated to the 1%) now go back to the drawing board and fix it?

Talk about passive aggressive.

Most movements come with a thought out goal. Remove the dictator and install democracy. End the war. Human rights. Right to marry. Civil rights. A goal. an end game that they thought of all by themselves. Something they want.

I think shaking your fist at the current system and makng the current powers that be go back to try to fix it is a weak agenda.

And again I actually agree with a lot of what I hear from the less crazy protesters.

But if its a leaderless movement than the owner of that facebook page speaks no more or less for the group than the crazy lady with the squirrel on her shoulder who wants to abolish all debt.

and thats my point.

Get a leader, get a message, focus.

get a permit, get some port a potties, get a stage and the media will eat it up.

Until then they are a non factor other than media darlings.

Protest in the middle east against US policies = Dog bites Man
Protest in the US against US policies = Man bites dog

Truly a wasted opportunity to get out what could be a decent message if they would just focus.

“Call it democracy, or call it democratic socialism, but there must be a better distribution of wealth within this country for all God’s children.”

"You're really tampering and getting on dangerous ground because you are messing with folk then. You are messing with captains of industry… Now this means that we are treading in difficult water, because it really means that we are saying that something is wrong… with capitalism… There must be a better distribution of wealth and maybe America must move toward a democratic socialism.”

Martin Luther King Jr.

It still looks like just a good opportunity to increase sales of bottled water and Axe body spray.

....and no, the French will not serve you cake. You'll just bitch that it either was outsourced or that it added to the trade imbalance. Make your own d&%n cake.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86KzMYbHZ0I&feature=youtube_gdata_player

lol, you are so silly. You aren't worried about helping stop the protesters from setting a bad precedent. You and others on this board are looking for any way to make them look foolish, even if it makes you sound like an old man shooing them off you lawn while complaining about the kids today. The yada yada isn't there to make it look like I don't want to hear you, it's there because the entire routine you are performing is a very old one that has been going on since the beginning of civilization and yada yada it's all been heard before.

Maybe you remember the story of Jesus busting up the money traders in the temple. After that he healed people for no compensation. Sounds like he broke some laws there, he had just traveled a long way to get there, probably smelled too. As an establishment type you would be on Rome's side because this long haired hippy is messing with your system without the proper permits.

” In a nation run by swine, all pigs are upward-mobile and the rest of us are f^cked until we can put our acts together: not necessarily to win, but mainly to keep from losing completely.”

Hunter S. Thompson

And it will be the $1,500/hour guys like me calling them to protect my sh*t from those scummy $20/hour white trash looters.

w:d/

Occupy Rome is torching cars and buildings. There are serious injuries reported. Meanwhile Occupy Wall Street is trying to figure out where to poo in the park.

Upstaged by Europe once again.

That community only existed because the Romans allowed it. The really community began in Europe- long after Jesus, aided by Christianity, to every-one's advantage. Money lending was contrary to Christian religious doctrine, so that left that industry open enough to allow Jews to get their feet in the door. Doctrine changed and the Jews were told to either convert to Christianity or suffer consequences. The rest is, as they say, history, but I probably made some of this up just to seem knowledgeable.

Another difference is that one wants to influence the two major political parties in the USA and the other is drifting more towards wanting the destruction of the global financial system and anarchy.

Actually its quite accurate.

Le Hockey dad pwns you.

Get over yourself its a Cbid joke fuzzy.

I can't discuss language use of posts like you guys do either? Damn!! The rules for me are so limited.

Im shorting my deodorant stock.

On this board at least your part has been to dismiss OWS using 'logic' you dismiss as ludicrous when you defend teabaggers. Mine has been to point that out.

Oh crap. Now churches are aiding the degenerate hippies, at least the ones who still listen to what Jesus actually taught and believe in the right to protest. When will this horror end!!!

In their stand against mammon, protesters occupying St Paul's churchyard to vent anger at reckless bankers found heartwarming support emanating from the house of God.

Far from requesting that the 300-strong crowd be removed from the cathedral steps on Sunday , the Rev Dr Giles Fraser, canon chancellor of St Paul's, requested that the police themselves move on as the Occupy London Stock Exchange protest entered its second day.

A line of officers had taken up position at the top of the steps to "protect" the building. "Which was very good of them," explained the canon. But then he had asked them if they would leave, "because I didn't feel that it needed that sort of protection".

With the sermon of the day appropriately including a gospel reading about "God and money", the regular congregation was joined by some of the protesters. The canon had warned them the cathedral bells were "really loud", so it was an early start to their first full day of occupation.

The protest indeed appeared to have struck a chord with many who were new to demonstrating. "I'm 40. Never been on a protest before. But I found myself here," said one man, who asked not to be named, from Sheffield. "I'm pretty middle of the road politically, so I wasn't sure about all the Socialist Workers placards at first. But this issue has attracted people from all walks of life. I'm a diehard atheist – there's a woman over there with a 'Jesus is Calling' placard. It's all of us."


http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/oct/16/occupy-london-protest-st-pauls

Hippies in Madrid, Anderson Cooper, and a church. FuzzNJ, do you actually have a point?

All this thread was is a simple question of whether anyone has joined the protests. By my last count, nobody here has. Maybe it is time for some people to get off their asses.

In addition to raising MLK to their aid they're not going to stop there...oh no...they're gonna march...GOOSESTEPPING ALL THE WAY! The claims of anti-semitism were rampant from the begining...now there's no doubt!


Now The Nazi And Communist Parties Are Throwing Their Support Behind 'Occupy Wall St'

Over the weekend the American Nazi Party and the American Communist Party both declared their support for the Occupy Wall St. movement. From their statement:

What is really MISSING – is the “MOVEMENT” from these popular protests – its time to pull WN heads out of their collective ass’s, and JOIN IN the attack on Judeo-Capitalism. What do you suggest? That WN Working Class White people DEFEND the Judeo-Capitalists? IF the “movement” wasn’t so PATHETIC it would be OUT THERE – LEADING these protests! The fact that its these “lefties” as you call them, who are picking up the ball and running with it – only shows how much more in tune THEY are with the fed up masses of White Workers, than the fossilized, reactionary “right-wing”.

The Communist party has also jumped on board.

The announcement was quickly picked up in the conservative blogosphere and Drudge had a link to a report on it on the home page this morning.

Certainly, it's not exactly a surprise that a movement this size and getting this much attention would attract the fringe, but it could prove problematic for Obama in the next few days.

The president has been increasingly vocal about his support of the movement and is expected to increase that support on his upcoming bus tour.

Without a clear leader for the movement one imagines Obama is going to find himself spending more time than he'd like to answering for the participation of groups such as these.



Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/american-nazi-communist-parties-support-occupy-wall-st-2011-10#ixzz1b3uSZ0xG

And the Kenyan King supports them too! Seig Heil Comrade!

No wonder the Left supports this. They get to take the mask off and show you who they really are and it's not even Halloween!

Yay! Guilt by association!

David Duke - Tea party dude:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=-m6wySl92yE&

The real Tea Party exposed!

HD,
I don't think that "what was fine under Bush is bad under Obama" holds true with the tea party.
I think the message is simply "enough is enough", and the fact that Obama's message for Change didn't pan out (understatement) and is sending us to the brink of collapse has resulted in a need for true grass-roots change with our leaders.

What irks me, and most of those I've spoken with, about the OWS crowd is the hypocrisy. They bemoan the selfish greed by CEOs, yet are demanding an even more selfish solution (make the wealthy use their earned dollars to pay for me, me, me and others who haven't earned it).

So I just read an antricle that states the movement just celebrated its one month anniversary and has collected $300k in donations.
If we extend that a little and assume they not only continue but pick up a little speed - lets give them 1 million at the three month mark. Of course that assumes people will go through the cold in Nov and Dec.

The DNC raised 70 million last quarter.

300k a month for people who want change, shake their fists, and poop in the park
23 million a month for people who want the status quo

who's keeping the money..??

More? More than who? And what the f*ck does that have to do with your claim that the OWS are goose stepping Nazis?

If you want to claim that logic as sound, you must accept that the Tea Party is racist.

I keep hearing this poop in the park stuff. There was one picture, no sh*t, no urine, just a guy with his head turned and pants down leaning against a cop car. So far no evidence of poop in the park. With O'Keefe hanging around there I wouldn't be surprised at all if it was all faked.