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victor809 Offline
#51 Posted: Tue, Jan 29 2013, 1:52 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
I wonder if they'll be a sodomy badge?

Is there a vag f#cking badge?
DrMaddVibe Offline
#52 Posted: Tue, Jan 29 2013, 1:53 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Ummm.... Ellen?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/06/ellen-degeneres-ad-one-million-moms-jc-penney-christmas_n_2251014.html

That took 2 seconds. Don't pretend you didn't know anything about this.



I'm really glad you're on top of the whole JC Penny and Ellen trainwreck.

Wow.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#53 Posted: Tue, Jan 29 2013, 1:54 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
[quote=tailgater]I wonder if they'll be a sodomy badge?[/quote
Is there a vag f#cking badge?



Not for you!

You can work towards the Nittany Lion Badge though.
victor809 Offline
#54 Posted: Tue, Jan 29 2013, 1:58 PM EST
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Yes... your big red letters are very menacing.

I'd suggest you're trying to compensate.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#55 Posted: Tue, Jan 29 2013, 2:00 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Yes... your big red letters are very menacing.

I'd suggest you're trying to compensate.



LYING DOUCHEBAG!

You said I was in a soundproof box on ignore!


What a liar!
bloody spaniard Offline
#56 Posted: Tue, Jan 29 2013, 2:24 PM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
LYING DOUCHEBAG!
You said I was in a soundproof box on ignore!
What a liar!



Damn, you just channeled my ex-wife!!!Scared
victor809 Offline
#57 Posted: Tue, Jan 29 2013, 2:25 PM EST
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Yes, trollboy, I'm sure you are outraged (OUTRAGED!) at the bsa allowing local dens to allow homosexuals in to their troop. It's probably gonna gay up those totally heterosexual experiences you had with your fellow troop members... sharing sleeping bags, shaving each other's sacks, the hot oil massages.

Yep... you're not trying to overcompensate for anything.

DrMaddVibe Offline
#58 Posted: Tue, Jan 29 2013, 2:30 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Yes, trollboy, I'm sure you are outraged (OUTRAGED!) at the bsa allowing local dens to allow homosexuals in to their troop. It's probably gonna gay up those totally heterosexual experiences you had with your fellow troop members... sharing sleeping bags, shaving each other's sacks, the hot oil massages.

Yep... you're not trying to overcompensate for anything.




Cry...cry...cry!

I like these kind of threads where you get all emotional about homos. It cracks me up! I can tell you're one of those militant types with the beret and all.

FWIW...I could care less about it...you want to play rubby with boys? Knock yourself out. Sob away, it amuses me to see you get all worked up over...nothing!
bloody spaniard Offline
#59 Posted: Tue, Jan 29 2013, 2:31 PM EST
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Hmmmmm... I'm sensing something here...Think
bloody spaniard Offline
#60 Posted: Tue, Jan 29 2013, 2:32 PM EST
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...and yet I am uncomfortably entertained.Think
DrMaddVibe Offline
#61 Posted: Tue, Jan 29 2013, 2:32 PM EST
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bloody spaniard wrote:
Hmmmmm... I'm sensing something here...Think



That you were married to Vic???Angel
bloody spaniard Offline
#62 Posted: Tue, Jan 29 2013, 2:34 PM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
That you were married to Vic???Angel



No, as repugnant as that may be, that's not it... I don't think.Think
victor809 Offline
#63 Posted: Tue, Jan 29 2013, 2:35 PM EST
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bloody spaniard wrote:
Hmmmmm... I'm sensing something here...Think

Ah bloody... you know trollboy can't resist getting OUTRAGED over a gay rights thread.
I think he's afraid that if enough other people do it, he'll go gay too...

He follows me around like a little puppy dog probably saying I'm gay or something (like Wheel on bath-salts) and gets extra short-bussy when there's a gay thread involved.

At some point he'll just shoot himself in the head in a fit of conflicted depression. I can wait.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#64 Posted: Tue, Jan 29 2013, 2:39 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Ah bloody... you know trollboy can't resist getting OUTRAGED over a gay rights thread.
I think he's afraid that if enough other people do it, he'll go gay too...

He follows me around like a little puppy dog probably saying I'm gay or something (like Wheel on bath-salts) and gets extra short-bussy when there's a gay thread involved.

At some point he'll just shoot himself in the head in a fit of conflicted depression. I can wait.



Um....I think I was the 3rd or 4th post on this thread...and you were???


Yeah.

So, in your spare time you like commenting on all matters Ellen, JC Penny, militant ghey rights, and playing the victim card...all righty then!

Look at you Butch up for the room. You go girl!
bloody spaniard Offline
#65 Posted: Tue, Jan 29 2013, 2:46 PM EST
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I'm wondering who would have won a saber duel on horseback 150 years ago. Think
The Italian or the Frenchman?
victor809 Offline
#66 Posted: Tue, Jan 29 2013, 2:49 PM EST
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See.... he can't resist posting... it's funny and sad at the same time. He's probably calling me gay right now... trollboy does not know how to be original.
bloody spaniard Offline
#67 Posted: Tue, Jan 29 2013, 2:52 PM EST
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(threadjack on)

As an aside, I used both French and Italian sabers (and foils) but my favorite in competition was the Hungarian- light for slashing & easy to thrust.

(threadjack off)

Victor, did you ever fence?
victor809 Offline
#68 Posted: Tue, Jan 29 2013, 2:54 PM EST
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bloody spaniard wrote:
(threadjack on)

As an aside, I used both French and Italian sabers (and foils) but my favorite in competition was the Hungarian- light for slashing & easy to thrust.

(threadjack off)

Victor, did you ever fence?


Nah... much too violent for me. :)
bloody spaniard Offline
#69 Posted: Tue, Jan 29 2013, 2:59 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Nah... much too violent for me. :)


I think you would have enjoyed the challenge.
I competed against a lunkhead who wielded his saber like a club. I won but he left me with welts up & down my arm sleeve & upper back.
I've heard some people pay extra for that. LOL
bloody spaniard Offline
#70 Posted: Tue, Jan 29 2013, 3:00 PM EST
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anyway... just thought I'd provide a light interlude from the combat.
victor809 Offline
#71 Posted: Tue, Jan 29 2013, 3:01 PM EST
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bloody spaniard wrote:
I think you would have enjoyed the challenge.
I competed against a lunkhead who wielded his saber like a club. I won but he left me with welts up & down my arm sleeve & upper back.
I've heard some people pay extra for that. LOL


... oh, I've been to those kind of clubs.... :)
DrMaddVibe Offline
#72 Posted: Tue, Jan 29 2013, 3:01 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
See.... he can't resist posting... it's funny and sad at the same time. He's probably calling me gay right now... trollboy does not know how to be original.



You want to know what's funny AND sad?

YOU.

Just like Fuzz...you're a square peg in a round hole. How many times have you been banned from here? How many monikers have you had to create? Seriously. Just like him disappearing, you wouldn't be missed. Where's the "originality" in THAT?!

As for calling you gay...I don't have to. You out yourself! With your militant "Us vs. Them" stance towards anything anyone dares post that's somehow slanted against advancing your precious cause. Chick-Fil-A, Georgetown, Boy Scouts, Ellen and JC Penny...where it stops nobody knows. That's the funny part of it all. Yanking the string and watching the puppet dance only in this instance it's cry. Cry puppet cry...for the cause...weep for us...and then mop up the floors when you're done!
daveincincy Offline
#73 Posted: Tue, Jan 29 2013, 3:02 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Ummm.... Ellen?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/06/ellen-degeneres-ad-one-million-moms-jc-penney-christmas_n_2251014.html

That took 2 seconds. Don't pretend you didn't know anything about this.



Don't have to pretend. I never knew about it. I guess I'm not haning around the right crowd. Think

I had a reply all typed up earlier, didn't post it before going to lunch (and had a cigar)...then when I got back my PC decided to reboot itself for no reason (2nd time today). Must be that time of month. I swear it must be female and has fits of PcMS. :shrug:

Anyway, I really have no dog in this hunt. I don't get worked up over boycotts...feel free to search your little heart out and find my inconsistancies. If you find some, so be it. Boycots don't get me worked up regardless of who's crying about them...gay, christian, whatever. I can't think of any at least. People, regardless of beliefs/backgrounds, just seem to get worked up over the pettiest of things and want to make it everyone else's problem. Feelings are going to get hurt, including my own. Get over yourselves.
HockeyDad Offline
#74 Posted: Tue, Jan 29 2013, 3:25 PM EST
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If you give the gay-homo militant extremists an inch, they will want eight.
victor809 Offline
#75 Posted: Tue, Jan 29 2013, 3:32 PM EST
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daveincincy wrote:
Don't have to pretend. I never knew about it. I guess I'm not haning around the right crowd. Think

I had a reply all typed up earlier, didn't post it before going to lunch (and had a cigar)...then when I got back my PC decided to reboot itself for no reason (2nd time today). Must be that time of month. I swear it must be female and has fits of PcMS. :shrug:

Anyway, I really have no dog in this hunt. I don't get worked up over boycotts...feel free to search your little heart out and find my inconsistancies. If you find some, so be it. Boycots don't get me worked up regardless of who's crying about them...gay, christian, whatever. I can't think of any at least. People, regardless of beliefs/backgrounds, just seem to get worked up over the pettiest of things and want to make it everyone else's problem. Feelings are going to get hurt, including my own. Get over yourselves.


Anyway, that's only one of a huge number of examples...
Hell, some christian group was trying to boycott the teletubbies because they thought one was gay?


Honestly, I'm with you. I fully support any group's right to not participate/buy/whatever from a group they don't agree with. And I fully support any private group's right to be as exclusive as they want.

I just get irritated by individuals who get butthurt when their group of choice, which they specifically want to be exclusive (due to some bigoted reason) decides not to be. It isn't like this is rocket science... the reason a group chooses to not exclude people is because the more people you include the bigger your market share. Almost every business out there is going to trend towards not being bigoted. Because that means you earn more money (or donations or cookie sales or whatever). Money makes the world go round baby....

victor809 Offline
#76 Posted: Tue, Jan 29 2013, 3:33 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
If you give the gay-homo militant extremists an inch, they will want eight.


Go big or go home ya tiny frenchman....
ZRX1200 Offline
#77 Posted: Tue, Jan 29 2013, 4:01 PM EST
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CBid thread sidetrack complete.



Thanks.
tailgater Offline
#78 Posted: Tue, Jan 29 2013, 4:39 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Ummm.... Ellen?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/06/ellen-degeneres-ad-one-million-moms-jc-penney-christmas_n_2251014.html

That took 2 seconds. Don't pretend you didn't know anything about this.


First of all, I have never seen that ad (still haven't watched it, but read the text), and I know nothing about the anti-JCP-Ellen controversy. Although I have heard of the milliom mom group, so maybe I just wasn't paying attention.

But more to the point: The million mom protest didn't push for a "company to support an anti-gay agenda".

Taking offense to something that is openly gay is not the same as pushing an anti-gay sentiment.
I don't like people who have extreme body odor. I am offended by their presence. But I don't organize an "anti body odor" campaign.

If the million moms wanted JCP to air a commercial that ridiculed gays, then THAT would fit your claim.

Splitting hairs, but that's why I singled out your comment and didn't argue your entire post.
tailgater Offline
#79 Posted: Tue, Jan 29 2013, 4:40 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Is there a vag f#cking badge?


It's called a Vadge-Badge.

Quite different from your ass-pass...
tailgater Offline
#80 Posted: Tue, Jan 29 2013, 4:41 PM EST
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bloody spaniard wrote:
Damn, you just channeled my ex-wife!!!Scared


Yeah. But who here hasn't?
victor809 Offline
#81 Posted: Tue, Jan 29 2013, 5:29 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
First of all, I have never seen that ad (still haven't watched it, but read the text), and I know nothing about the anti-JCP-Ellen controversy. Although I have heard of the milliom mom group, so maybe I just wasn't paying attention.

But more to the point: The million mom protest didn't push for a "company to support an anti-gay agenda".

Taking offense to something that is openly gay is not the same as pushing an anti-gay sentiment.
I don't like people who have extreme body odor. I am offended by their presence. But I don't organize an "anti body odor" campaign.

If the million moms wanted JCP to air a commercial that ridiculed gays, then THAT would fit your claim.

Splitting hairs, but that's why I singled out your comment and didn't argue your entire post.



I understand it's splitting hairs, but I would argue that boycotting a company ONLY because they are employing an openly gay person.... counts as an anti-gay agenda. The commercial wasn't pushing any agenda. Their problem was with the fact JCP employed someone who is openly gay as a spokesman.

If all companies which the Million moms (or the family focus or whatever group) bowed to their boycotts, then it would be essentially impossible for an openly gay "personality" to earn money doing endorsements. I know that seems like a whatever point to those of us who aren't ridiculously rich and have our own shows and whatnot... but it still counts as an anti-gay stance.
victor809 Offline
#82 Posted: Tue, Jan 29 2013, 5:30 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
It's called a Vadge-Badge.

Quite different from your ass-pass...



Does one get the ass-pass for hetro buttseks or only the gay buttseks? I only ask because statistics say theres WAY more straight buttseks going on. And that's not even counting the strapon HD's wife uses on him (i hear that thing counts for 2)
ZRX1200 Offline
#83 Posted: Tue, Jan 29 2013, 5:38 PM EST
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Its only ghey if the balls touch.
yardobeef Offline
#84 Posted: Tue, Jan 29 2013, 6:08 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Its only ghey if the balls touch.


It's like tennis. It's best to have a line judge present to determine if you're doing right....or wrong.
tailgater Offline
#85 Posted: Tue, Jan 29 2013, 9:07 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
I understand it's splitting hairs, but I would argue that boycotting a company ONLY because they are employing an openly gay person.... counts as an anti-gay agenda. The commercial wasn't pushing any agenda. Their problem was with the fact JCP employed someone who is openly gay as a spokesman.

If all companies which the Million moms (or the family focus or whatever group) bowed to their boycotts, then it would be essentially impossible for an openly gay "personality" to earn money doing endorsements. I know that seems like a whatever point to those of us who aren't ridiculously rich and have our own shows and whatnot... but it still counts as an anti-gay stance.


It is splitting hairs.
And give me a little time here and I'll find some reason to tell you you're wrong.

Just a little more time.

I'm sure I'll find something.
tailgater Offline
#86 Posted: Tue, Jan 29 2013, 9:11 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Its only ghey if the balls touch.


What's that?
Prison sex, rule 101?
victor809 Offline
#87 Posted: Tue, Jan 29 2013, 9:29 PM EST
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Quote:

It's only ghey if the balls touch.

Z... just how many "hetero" buttseks encounters have you been in where there are two sets of balls?
If the answer is one or more, I think you're doing it wrong....
wheelrite Offline
#88 Posted: Tue, Jan 29 2013, 9:31 PM EST
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I don't give a chit,,,

My son's is grown. I did the Cub Scout, Boy Scout stuff with my son. We had fun but he's all grown now and the rest of y'all are on your own !!
MACS Offline
#89 Posted: Tue, Jan 29 2013, 9:57 PM EST
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Saaaaaay, suckas....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AufVWNrufJE
rfenst Offline
#90 Posted: Tue, Jan 29 2013, 10:13 PM EST
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daveincincy wrote:
They caved in to the pressure...just like Disney and any other company that decides the negative publicity is just not worth it.


B.S. Disney makes a boatload of money from gay days. It also has a wide diversity policy and allows for domestic partner benefits for heterosexuals and gays. It finds that its employees support and favor it. Disney believes diversity and tolerance makes better employees.
rfenst Offline
#91 Posted: Tue, Jan 29 2013, 10:18 PM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
Come on you can do better than that....those **** hate everyone......




Um, uh... never mind...
rfenst Offline
#92 Posted: Tue, Jan 29 2013, 10:29 PM EST
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daveincincy wrote:
You think the BSA changed to accomodate the parents (i.e. the minority i.e. gay/lesbian) who don't want their children involved in a "bigoted" organization? I'm sure the BSA would do just fine if, all of a sudden, every gay/lesbian leader quit the BSA. And if it didn't survive, well, so be it. It's probably better off that way IMO.


I would not have allowed my children to join BSA if they had wanted to. That organization won't get a penny of my money and my kids will not leave our household without knowing we don't tolerate or support hatred and bigotry.

A few years ago, I was on the board of a community service organization. A BSA Troop sought a $500 donation for equipment it was truly in need of. I scuttled any notion of making the donation because BSA chose to discriminate against gays. Damn proud about it too.
Brewha Offline
#93 Posted: Tue, Jan 29 2013, 10:49 PM EST
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rfenst wrote:
I would not have allowed my children to join BOA if they had wanted to. That organization won't get a penny of my money and my kids will not leave our household without knowing we don't tolerate or support hatred and bigotry.

A few years ago, I was on the board of a community service organization. A BSA Troop sought a $500 donation for equipment it was truly in need of. I scuttled any notion of making the donation because BSA chose to discriminate against gays. Damn proud about it too.

Wait, all they do is openly discriminate against gays, lesbians, most 'non-Christians' and help hide child molesters.
What's the problem?

If they were a major religion would you judge them so harshly?
HockeyDad Offline
#94 Posted: Wed, Jan 30 2013, 6:53 AM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Does one get the ass-pass for hetro buttseks or only the gay buttseks? I only ask because statistics say theres WAY more straight buttseks going on. And that's not even counting the strapon HD's wife uses on him (i hear that thing counts for 2)



Your limp-wristed surrender is accepted.
rfenst Offline
#95 Posted: Wed, Jan 30 2013, 7:37 AM EST
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Brewha wrote:
Wait, all they do is openly discriminate against gays, lesbians, most 'non-Christians' and help hide child molesters.
What's the problem?

If they were a major religion would you judge them so harshly?



Etiam.
SweetHavok Offline
#96 Posted: Wed, Jan 30 2013, 8:55 AM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
You want to know what's funny AND sad? YOU.





Eh?



I agree with the sad part but funny?
SweetHavok Offline
#97 Posted: Wed, Jan 30 2013, 8:58 AM EST
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Victor my poor misguided and completly lost victor


Do you actuallly listen to yourself? Of course you do!!! Just admit it, since your the type that likes to hear themselves talk. You remind me of one of my favorite sayings that I like to say. I'll give you the translated version so I'm hopping you can understand it.


You talk like a parrot, says what he knows, but doesn't know what he says.
tailgater Offline
#98 Posted: Wed, Jan 30 2013, 9:44 AM EST
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Re: 92 and 93^

Robert and Brew,

While the BSA has a history of discrimination against openly gay men and boys, you two sound as if it's on their agenda.

Truth be told, they probably "discriminate" against swingers and poligamists as well. And anyone else who thinks it's OK to present the subject of sexuality to a group of boys who want to learn about nature and achievement in a controlled environment.
Brewha Offline
#99 Posted: Wed, Jan 30 2013, 10:25 AM EST
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SweetHavok wrote:
Victor my poor misguided and completly lost victor


SH is claming Victor as his??????
Brewha Offline
#100 Posted: Wed, Jan 30 2013, 10:40 AM EST
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tailgater wrote:
Re: 92 and 93^

Robert and Brew,

While the BSA has a history of discrimination against openly gay men and boys, you two sound as if it's on their agenda.

Truth be told, they probably "discriminate" against swingers and poligamists as well. And anyone else who thinks it's OK to present the subject of sexuality to a group of boys who want to learn about nature and achievement in a controlled environment.

I do believe that the discrimination is on their agenda. I have heard the line of reasoning that “we don’t want our children exposed to people like that”. This gets thrown at teachers too. And it is nothing more than people using their children to push a bigoted agenda.

I don’t believe that BSA teaches sexual orientation. So this should not be any more of an issue than having people of any religion or color in the group.

For all the good they do, their stance has been shining example of what not to do. Moral turpitude it is.
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