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WTF? Ugly, bloody scenes in San Jose as protesters attack Trump supporters
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Brewha Offline
#51 Posted: Fri, Jun 3 2016, 1:57 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
Yeah.
Odd that the "tone" of an article showing protesters attacking a woman physically makes them look like the bad guy.


You're funny.


Funny is right – one of the news article said “Trump paraphernalia was burned to the ground” and showed a hat burring on the side walk.

And the woman “physically attacked” had an egg thrown at her. Oh, the humanity!!!

There wasn’t even any significant damage from the “riot”, but they are selling it like aftermath of a soccer team losing….
victor809 Offline
#52 Posted: Fri, Jun 3 2016, 2:00 PM EST
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MACS, the trump rallies were bad enough in March that his fellow Republican contenders were criticizing him for encouraging violence.

It isn't just one a-hole. On either side.

The groups protesting the trump rallies are bad as well. They are trying to block people's rights to assemble, and speak. They may be protesting (and even when they do it peacefully) but the tactics of blocking access and interrupting is just as bad as abortion protesters blocking access to clinics.

Of course, this thread is the first I've seen anyone complain here about the problem...
Brewha Offline
#53 Posted: Fri, Jun 3 2016, 2:04 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
Somewhat true.
But consider the situations.

Regardless of who "started" the actual violence, virtually every instance was born from the leftist anti-Trump occupiers invading a group of Trump supporters.

You mean “freedom of speech” - right?
tailgater wrote:

Face it: emotions run high when a large crowd is cheering on the guy they support. When a vocal minority gets in your face spewing their opposing vitriol it's bound to set somebody off. All it takes is one, and then mob mentality takes over.

When I attend NFL games at opposing stadiums, I know that I can route for my team. But if I chastise the home team in a vulgar manner then I shouldn't expect to be treated with respect. If I get my azz handed to me then I would have no one to blame but myself.

So you agree the Trump supporters should get their azzes handed to them ?
Brewha Offline
#54 Posted: Fri, Jun 3 2016, 2:08 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
MACS, the trump rallies were bad enough in March that his fellow Republican contenders were criticizing him for encouraging violence.

It isn't just one a-hole. On either side.

The groups protesting the trump rallies are bad as well. They are trying to block people's rights to assemble, and speak. They may be protesting (and even when they do it peacefully) but the tactics of blocking access and interrupting is just as bad as abortion protesters blocking access to clinics.

Of course, this thread is the first I've seen anyone complain here about the problem...

Great point Victor – You can to anything you want outside a health clinic, but don’t go messing with no Trump rally!!!
banderl Offline
#55 Posted: Fri, Jun 3 2016, 2:27 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
That wasn't a riot. That was one a-hole who elbowed someone else. It wasn't a crowd of people attacking others.

MACS wrote:
I haven't seen the clips of Trump supporters beating people and burning flags. Did I miss them?

Legal or illegal is of no concern to me. This is the United States, and if you came here from somewhere else it was for a reason. No matter what the reason, this country was their CHOICE, and as such I would ask them to RESPECT IT, or kindly GTFO.

So you're saying that the Trump supporter didn't beat the black guy?
MACS Offline
#56 Posted: Fri, Jun 3 2016, 2:34 PM EST
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banderl wrote:
So you're saying that the Trump supporter didn't beat the black guy?


No, he didn't. One elbow to the face is certainly battery, but by no means was it a 'beating'.
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#57 Posted: Fri, Jun 3 2016, 2:43 PM EST
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Now you sound like brew in post 51....
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#58 Posted: Fri, Jun 3 2016, 2:45 PM EST
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Both of you are playing the whole "the violence of the group I support isn't nearly as bad as the other side is claiming" game.
MACS Offline
#59 Posted: Fri, Jun 3 2016, 2:46 PM EST
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I agree with him, on that count. Saying a woman who was hit with an egg was 'physically attacked' is stretching things.
banderl Offline
#60 Posted: Fri, Jun 3 2016, 2:47 PM EST
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Yeah I'd rather be knocked to the ground by an elbow to the head than get hit by an egg.

This was the stuff that was going on at the Trump rallies, then the protests started.
MACS Offline
#61 Posted: Fri, Jun 3 2016, 2:48 PM EST
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banderl wrote:
Yeah I'd rather be knocked to the ground by an elbow to the head than get hit by an egg.


I think I could help with that. LOL
ZRX1200 Offline
#62 Posted: Fri, Jun 3 2016, 2:50 PM EST
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So we've cited one guy getting elbowed.

And that's what we're basing equal bad behavior on?

Adam Henrys on both sides. Violence and intimidation has been leaning more one way though.
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#63 Posted: Fri, Jun 3 2016, 2:50 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
I think I could help with that. LOL


I bet you'd like to try.
Can you catch a bullet with your teeth?
banderl Offline
#64 Posted: Fri, Jun 3 2016, 2:53 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
So we've cited one guy getting elbowed.

And that's what we're basing equal bad behavior on?

Adam Henrys on both sides. Violence and intimidation has been leaning more one way though.



I personally have little use for illegal Mexicans, but he pissed off and insulted all of the Mexicans.
What if he would have said his BS about another group?
The Irish for example.
MACS Offline
#65 Posted: Fri, Jun 3 2016, 2:54 PM EST
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banderl wrote:
This was the stuff that was going on at the Trump rallies, then the protests started.


There ya go... the old "he started it!" defense. Brilliant!! So your sister slapped you and you decided to beat her senseless and burn her belongings. Seems fair. Sarcasm

Yes, Victor... neither side should be resorting to violence, period. My main issue is with the a-holes waving Mexican flags and burning American flags on American soil. And THAT is why a lot of people support Trump... because instead of ignoring the border issue he says he will do something about it.

Whether he can or not remains to be seen... but at least he is willing to try instead of ignore it.
MACS Offline
#66 Posted: Fri, Jun 3 2016, 2:57 PM EST
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banderl wrote:
I bet you'd like to try.
Can you catch a bullet with your teeth?


Sensitive little girl, ain'tcha? I was kidding with you. That's what the little guy rolling around laughing was indicating.

Now you wanna shoot me... you sure you ain't a gun nut conservative?Herfing
victor809 Offline
#67 Posted: Fri, Jun 3 2016, 3:10 PM EST
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Banderl = TCBY?
ZRX1200 Offline
#68 Posted: Fri, Jun 3 2016, 3:11 PM EST
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Bro, please find for me where I've defended HIM.

He's trolled HARD. And it's worked.

I have no intentions of voting for him. I'm sick and tired of too many not seeing the forest through the trees, and I'm tired of the one sided reporting.

Also, he's said that he "loves the Mexicans".. ...


FYI I'm drinking bourbon right now while two clean my house.
dharbolt Offline
#69 Posted: Fri, Jun 3 2016, 3:12 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Ok. In that instance you pull a gun and go to jail. Since I can carry too and you pulled first it could get messy. Assuming either of us live your legal issues are greater than mine.



In Ohio your vehicle is your sovereign property akin to your home. I am well within my rights to use lethal force to stop someone entering or even attempting to enter my home or vehicle. Stomping the hood or roof counts.
dharbolt Offline
#70 Posted: Fri, Jun 3 2016, 3:14 PM EST
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gummy jones wrote:
you have to prove that you are in reasonable fear of excessive bodily harm or death, rape, kidnapping, etc

one guy stomping your car...i think the aforementioned is hard to prove

it gets more interesting if there is a mob bashing in your windows but the burden of proof would be on you

if you are in wv or texas you probably walk

if you are in jersey, chicago, dc, etc then flip a coin


I don't have to prove it in Ohio. I only need show reasonable fear.
teedubbya Offline
#71 Posted: Fri, Jun 3 2016, 3:24 PM EST
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That would be the defense and it might actually work. Then again it might not.
MACS Offline
#72 Posted: Fri, Jun 3 2016, 4:08 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Banderl = TCBY?


Oh, no you di'in't!!
victor809 Offline
#73 Posted: Fri, Jun 3 2016, 4:15 PM EST
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Hey... I'm just playing them where they lay. :)
Brewha Offline
#74 Posted: Fri, Jun 3 2016, 5:47 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Now you sound like brew in post 51....

In all fairness I was trying to play the FOXNoise game....

Violence is not called for on either side - plainly.
And plainly Donald Trump disagrees with me on this. "Punch him in the face" were his words I believe. So I have to believe that his supporters agree with violence and bullying being not just ok - but the way to go. Am I wrong?

I would point out the the responce Don has created shows how provocative his statements are. He is trying to pick a fight - and now it seems he has one.
tailgater Offline
#75 Posted: Fri, Jun 3 2016, 5:56 PM EST
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banderl wrote:
I personally have little use for illegal Mexicans, but he pissed off and insulted all of the Mexicans.
What if he would have said his BS about another group?
The Irish for example.


The Irish wouldn't care.

Only thin skinned whiners get upset when a subset of your group is insulted.

The Legal Mexican Americans should hate the illegals the most. Think about it. You skimp and save for years to afford a long legal process. Your neighbor sneaks over and not only steals your job but gives your race a bad name.
And yet, the liberals cry out for all Latino's when someone says something derogatory about the illegals.
tailgater Offline
#76 Posted: Fri, Jun 3 2016, 5:59 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
Funny is right – one of the news article said “Trump paraphernalia was burned to the ground” and showed a hat burring on the side walk.

And the woman “physically attacked” had an egg thrown at her. Oh, the humanity!!!

There wasn’t even any significant damage from the “riot”, but they are selling it like aftermath of a soccer team losing….


I didn't say the woman was harmed. But she WAS physically attacked.
It's a woman and some dude hurls an egg at her face?
And you're defending him because you line up politically. Or should we say pathetically?

And before you split a panty liner, you are "defending him" by downplaying the significance of his actions.
I guess if it were your mother or sister it would be OK to be on the receiving end of an egg thrown by a Trump supporter?
Of course not.
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#77 Posted: Fri, Jun 3 2016, 6:01 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
You mean “freedom of speech” - right?

So you agree the Trump supporters should get their azzes handed to them ?


Freedom of speech? You mean like yelling FIRE in a crowded theater?

And you need to re-read the football analogy. The Trump supporters are the "home" team at a Trump rally. Sorry to confuse you.
Brewha Offline
#78 Posted: Fri, Jun 3 2016, 7:09 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
I didn't say the woman was harmed. But she WAS physically attacked.
It's a woman and some dude hurls an egg at her face?
And you're defending him because you line up politically. Or should we say pathetically?

And before you split a panty liner, you are "defending him" by downplaying the significance of his actions.
I guess if it were your mother or sister it would be OK to be on the receiving end of an egg thrown by a Trump supporter?
Of course not.


Sorry Tail, I can feel you crocodile tears from here. How COULD some one throw an egg on a women who was simply supporting American racism and bigotry? Someone should punch him in the face......

LOL
Burner02 Offline
#79 Posted: Fri, Jun 3 2016, 7:18 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
racism and bigotry?


What has you man O done for the past seven years?
Brewha Offline
#80 Posted: Fri, Jun 3 2016, 7:22 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
Freedom of speech? You mean like yelling FIRE in a crowded theater?

And you need to re-read the football analogy. The Trump supporters are the "home" team at a Trump rally. Sorry to confuse you.


Dude, Trump went to San Jose - Silicon Valley. These are the smart people. Not the blue collar raccoons that support him. He was NOT on the home field. It was like Obama at a KKK cook out.....

But you are correct about the "freedom of speech" reference. I was framing it in conservative thought.
Brewha Offline
#81 Posted: Fri, Jun 3 2016, 7:24 PM EST
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Burner02 wrote:
What has you man O done for the past seven years?



Fixed healthcare, gained world repect for our country, fixed the economy.....

Visit the US much?
ZRX1200 Offline
#82 Posted: Fri, Jun 3 2016, 7:37 PM EST
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LMMFPWAO
Brewha Offline
#83 Posted: Fri, Jun 3 2016, 7:53 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
LMMFPWAO

Sometimes I think Burner is the perfect straight man.
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#84 Posted: Fri, Jun 3 2016, 8:20 PM EST
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http://www.breitbart.com/california/2016/06/03/anti-trump-mob-assaults-police-hunts-trump-supporters-like-prey/

Videos linked in the story.
MACS Offline
#85 Posted: Fri, Jun 3 2016, 8:27 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
Fixed healthcare, gained world repect for our country, fixed the economy.....

Visit the US much?


Wow... you have GOT to be kidding, right? Standup routine?
Burner02 Offline
#86 Posted: Fri, Jun 3 2016, 9:15 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
Someone should punch him in the face......



I'm guessing your actions if someone hit your wife in the face with an egg in public.
Burner02 Offline
#87 Posted: Fri, Jun 3 2016, 9:16 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
Fixed healthcare, gained world repect for our country, fixed the economy.....

Visit the US much?



More like ruined the country.
teedubbya Offline
#88 Posted: Fri, Jun 3 2016, 9:38 PM EST
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I'm sad for those that think the country is ruined regardless of who they think did it.
frankj1 Offline
#89 Posted: Fri, Jun 3 2016, 9:48 PM EST
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where would they go? I like it here.
banderl Offline
#90 Posted: Fri, Jun 3 2016, 9:56 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
I'm sad for those that think the country is ruined regardless of who they think did it.



They couldn't deal with a halfrican in charge.
What are they going to do when some broad becomes CIC?
ZRX1200 Offline
#91 Posted: Fri, Jun 3 2016, 9:57 PM EST
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Nice troll bait bro.
MACS Offline
#92 Posted: Fri, Jun 3 2016, 10:16 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Nice troll bait bro.


Yeah. That's the fallback. If you disagree, you're a bigot or a misogynist.

I don't have issues with blacks or women being president, obviously. Just don't think Obama was good and I think Hillary will be even worse.
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#93 Posted: Fri, Jun 3 2016, 10:39 PM EST
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The best part is the very supporters of Trumpy have no fn clue what he is gonna do. Nobody does, if he gets elected he can go on to make George Bush look like he was a genius! As the old saying goes "be careful what you wish for, as you may get it.
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#94 Posted: Fri, Jun 3 2016, 10:44 PM EST
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No women should have to endure an egg to the face, it's disrespectful at least, and it would light my fuse to say the least. It's also wrong to be fistfighting over politics. A few short years ago we were laughing at other countries for their politicians doing this. Now we are sinking to their level.
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#95 Posted: Fri, Jun 3 2016, 10:50 PM EST
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So, it's ok for an illegal alien to burn the flag, while wearing a Mexico flag, and throw eggs and sucker punch people because they support someone who wants to enforce the laws. .?? Huh
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#96 Posted: Fri, Jun 3 2016, 11:23 PM EST
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If that comment is addressed to me Drafter, you have no idea about me, I've been against illegals for years, and I definitely don't agree with burning the flags. On the other hand both sides left the gates open for their own reasons, and something has to be done to bring them into being legal. Their is nothing worse than any group thinking they have no control over their future, and because they don't contribute, they are left to be a burden on everyone else.
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#97 Posted: Fri, Jun 3 2016, 11:39 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
Fixed healthcare, gained world repect for our country, fixed the economy.....

Visit the US much?


Delusional statement if i ever heard one about the Big O.

Yes, i live in the US and the first statement is still delusional.
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#98 Posted: Sat, Jun 4 2016, 7:43 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
I'm sad for those that think the country is ruined regardless of who they think did it.



I'm sad that you are sad.



Sarcasm
tailgater Offline
#99 Posted: Sat, Jun 4 2016, 10:45 AM EST
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Brewha wrote:
Sorry Tail, I can feel you crocodile tears from here. How COULD some one throw an egg on a women who was simply supporting American racism and bigotry? Someone should punch him in the face......

LOL


"racism and bigotry"

Mainstream media been teaching you again, boy.
Good on you.

(twirly smiley face thingy)
tailgater Offline
#100 Posted: Sat, Jun 4 2016, 10:47 AM EST
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Brewha wrote:
Dude, Trump went to San Jose - Silicon Valley. These are the smart people. Not the blue collar raccoons that support him. He was NOT on the home field. It was like Obama at a KKK cook out.....

But you are correct about the "freedom of speech" reference. I was framing it in conservative thought.


So Trump can't hold a rally of supporters in the Silicon Valley?

Freedom of speech my azz.

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