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something...the 60+% refers to voter turnout of eligible voters. Apparently that needs to be spelled out for some

There you go again. Blaming me for your lack of understanding irony.

How do you type with your hands on your hip and that condescending scowl on your face?

You're a real treat.


Like your girlfriend, you need to look up the term irony.

Then read my multiple "words" that are clearly against Moore.
And then read my one ironic quip that you are firmly embracing as proving I sympathize.
Wait. I'm wrong.
Not embracing. More like grasping. Like the straws of your flimsy argument.


But seriously.
I can see how you stumbled upon your conclusion. But when I tell you that you're wrong and point out why but you insist that you know better than I do what I meant?
THAT'S where the whiny B comment stems from.

Shhh....
Don't make burner sad. In his tiny mind only 68% of the white voters voted for moore, but since that's only 40% of voters turned out to vote that means only 26% of white alabamans love pedophiles... he's sure that those other 60% of people who didn't vote would totally not back a pedophile, because he knows this.

HAh



*all numbers grabbed from nearest sources and may be off by a percentage point or 3.

Like you'd ever pass on an opportunity to rub it in my face...

Guess that settles it, Vicki has spoken. How dare I take your words as intended. Just don’t understand how I misinterpreted your “65% of white women in Alabama voted for” statement.

But you and I know that you have taken this opportunity to push your bigoted views towards the south and make it appear that the entire conservative side of AL was behind Moore. Which was not the case and was the primary reason Moore lost. Don’t guess you noticed the majority of the right did not show up in support of Moore or you ignored it in order to keep beating your drum.

Only reason Moore was in this special election in the first place was that he had less stench on him at the time of the primary than his opponent, Luther Strange. Strange received special appointment by then Gov Bentley to fill the vacant seat left by Sessions. Only problem was Strange then State AG, stiff armed possible ethics actions aimed at Bentley and earned the special appointment. At least that was the perception of the public.

New Gov Ivy enters picture after Bentley resigns and decides there will be a special election which Moore won on the Republican side. If it had been a straight up election, on equal footing, Strange would have won decisively. The stench from his protecting Bentley was too much for him to overcome against Moore. I will point out at the time of this election there were no “pedo” allegations pertaining to Moore. These arose after the fact and did not surface until recently just before this weeks election.

Not that you wanted to know what happened, but now you do.

Fully expect facts to continue to get in your way.

The 48-49% isn't indicative of what AL is really about, as burner said. Decent cons refused to support Moore, and stayed home. Turnout among GOP voters was super low...while minority/black voter turn out was historically high...

... which indicates this is a one-off. Jones will finish the term, run for re-election, but will lose if the GOP runs someone other than Moore. Wonder if he'll try for the seat again...

AL is still a solid to the core red state, with more decent people than the state has been given credit for...

So... turnout was 40%.
That's higher than expected. But who turned out? And who stayed home? And if you stayed home isn't that just tacit support for a pedo?

So lets look at the last non-presidential senate election. (2014)
This is when Sessions was elected last.
818,090 votes. essentially all for Sessions because no democrat ran against him. That's a case of the other side "staying home".

How does that compare to 2017 election?
jones got 671,151 votes
Moore got 650,436 votes total about 1.3MM

Now... the best you can claim is that about 150K republican voters stayed home. That's not taking into account Republicans who voted democrat (we'll call them "smart") Republicans make up 43% of the exit polled people... 8 percent of those identifying as republican voted for Jones. That's 44k. So you're "abstaining republicans" really comes down to about 100k people... and that's not even taking into account the independents. I can't estimate that breakdown, as the prior election didn't havand they make up 20% (260,000) of the votersI think that's gonna eat away a bit more from your number.

So I'm not sure many republicans stayed home. Unless you want to argue that independents didn't vote for Sessions at all back in 2014. Because in 2017, about 130k independents voted for a republican, and 130k independents voted for a democrat.... some of this is just ballpark/estimation. but it doesn't look like a large number.

More importantly, a lot of democrats came out to the polls. They were motivated to not have a pedo represent their state. Good for them.

But that brings us to our final question. Is it really that impressive to not go and vote when the options are a dem vs a pedo? I mean,I would like to live in a world where a pedo or a nazi on the ticket was sufficient motivation to cause 98.2% of the eligible voters to turnout to vote for the other candidate.

Apparently you think staying home is praiseworthy. Did you get participation trophies for sitting out too?

Massachusetts kept re-electing a proven murderer.
Over and over and over again.
And America embraced him almost as tightly.

Anyone old enough can remember that Ted Kennedy would likely have been President, were it not for Chappaquiddick.

Could you imagine a similar moniker for Roy Moore?

Point being, the GOP in the deep south does not own partisan blindness. Liberals have been waving that flag for decades.

Blaming Trump is the cheap and easy way out.

Tail I’ve never said one party owns it or is moreso than the other. I’ve actually said the opposite.

But whenever it comes up the other side rushes in with the yea but..... much like you. Because one side dies it is not a get out of jail free card to do the same. Done can’t see that.

Burner I’m sorry your pedo guy lost (truly, I think he represents Alabama) but like your cutesie little saying.

I'm not sure what that means...

Is that what senators say to 15 year old girls in Alabama?

Again... I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

Are you calling me skinny?

I can't think of any instance where having a large azz is supposed to be a good thing, unless you're a dancer in a rap video....

Is this one of those sayings that only makes sense if you grew up drinking leaded water in alabama?

Hehehe... ya... I don't really care about cutsie southern sayings...

I got too giddy regarding the clinton ties to the Russian Dossier.
But I'm not sure I've been rushing to conclusions otherwise.

he said he was sorry

never understood how he got away with that let alone was revered by some

doesn't the definition of "proven murderer" include "the people of Massachusetts vs Ted Kennedy," and with a jury pronouncement of "guilty"?


Not saying Teddy was an innocent party in the incident...he was behind the wheel at the time of the accident...and was found guilty of criminal negligence...quite a long way from "proven murderer"

He does sympathize with him. His trying to soften it. Teddy killed that chick and got away with it. And some still hold him up high. They shouldn’t and no one should minimize what he did. Dispicable.

I just agree with you on teddy. I’ve never understood how he could do what he did and survive politically let alone thrive and be held in such high regard. I’m surprised you take issue with that.

Maybe there was a depository of empathy for him and his family because his two brothers were actually publicly murdered/intentionally killed?


Not being too nit-picky, but the definition of murderer includes intent...some sort of pre-meditation, does it not?

"Killer" would be an accurate adjective...


The cons have used the "these things happened 40 years ago" as a way to justify backing Moore. Chappaquiddick happened how many years ago?

1st degree murder involves premeditation and intent. Other degrees less so. But you are right, man slaughter is prolly more fitting.

Broadslaughter or dameslaughter doesn't roll off the tongue like manslaughter...

besides...I think when that term was invented, it was perfectly legit to kill women...they being property and all...that's what I heard...

Think Teddy o' boy plead guilty to leaving the scene of an accident and causing bodily harm to another.

Back then it should have been manslaughter at a minimum.

Just don't say "fetus"...

I don't believe there is a list. The department of Health and Human Services has denied it.
Which means nothing, except that the list of banned words is ridiculous and would achieve nothing.
This smells too much like a media feeding frenzy ready to believe anything negative about this administration.