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Speyside Offline
#351 Posted: Wed, Jul 25 2018, 7:36 PM EST
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According to Bill she didn't.
victor809 Offline
#352 Posted: Wed, Jul 25 2018, 7:36 PM EST
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Shame drafter was so badly fooled...
delta1 Offline
#353 Posted: Wed, Jul 25 2018, 7:37 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Was it the fact that Putin supposedly spread stories about Hillary doing illegal stuff or was it the fact that Hillary was doing illegal stuff that swayed the voters..?? Think


You did pass on that fake story about how she sold about all of the US supply of plutonium to Russia...
DrafterX Offline
#354 Posted: Wed, Jul 25 2018, 7:48 PM EST
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Yes I did... But there was plenty of other stuff.. mainly her smug look while she lied to everybody and God... ... Mellow
Speyside Offline
#355 Posted: Wed, Jul 25 2018, 8:08 PM EST
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Drafter, both Trump and Hillary deserve the same standard, the American one. Innocent until proven guilty. There are certainly some differences in their respective situations. The Trump situations are presently ongoing. Untill the special council releases his report their are many unknowns. Though we can say with certainty that to this point in time Trump has not been implicated in any way. Hillary's situations have long since past. She was never charged with anything. So unless you believe that the FBI and congress were complicit in multiple cover ups, you need to come to the realization that Hillary is completely innocent. If you do believe that the FBI and congress are complicit in multiple cover ups then you need to provide verifiable information to support your opinion to be taken seriously.
HuckFinn Offline
#356 Posted: Wed, Jul 25 2018, 8:30 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Yes I did... But there was plenty of other stuff.. mainly her smug look while she lied to everybody and God... ... Mellow

You don't see a smug look glued on Trump's face? At all times?

You bespectacled Drafter?
frankj1 Offline
#357 Posted: Wed, Jul 25 2018, 8:32 PM EST
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Speyside wrote:
According to Bill she didn't.

Bill The Cat?
DrafterX Offline
#358 Posted: Wed, Jul 25 2018, 9:14 PM EST
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Hillary's crimes are well documented and been discussed here at nauseum... If you choose to ignore them that's on you.. not Putin... Mellow
Speyside Offline
#359 Posted: Wed, Jul 25 2018, 10:28 PM EST
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Your really do believe that. I feel sorry for you.
frankj1 Offline
#360 Posted: Thu, Jul 26 2018, 7:39 AM EST
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if we could list every well known political personality who was ever suspected or investigated maybe we'd never have to talk about any of the current rash of them.
DrafterX Offline
#361 Posted: Thu, Jul 26 2018, 7:58 AM EST
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I'd be happy if they were all treated equally... Lock them all up if needed.. Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#362 Posted: Thu, Jul 26 2018, 9:56 AM EST
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The only person I've seen consistently fooled is drafter. That makes me angry because I like him. He buys all the fake news though.
DrafterX Offline
#363 Posted: Thu, Jul 26 2018, 10:23 AM EST
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I'm telling Louie-dog you're telling lies about me.. Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#364 Posted: Thu, Jul 26 2018, 11:07 AM EST
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Screw Louie Dog
DrafterX Offline
#365 Posted: Thu, Jul 26 2018, 11:24 AM EST
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OhMyGod
HuckFinn Offline
#366 Posted: Thu, Jul 26 2018, 8:42 PM EST
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“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.”

― Marcus Tullius Cicero
DrafterX Offline
#367 Posted: Thu, Jul 26 2018, 9:19 PM EST
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Laugh
HuckFinn Offline
#368 Posted: Fri, Jul 27 2018, 6:12 AM EST
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Glare
tailgater Offline
#369 Posted: Fri, Jul 27 2018, 9:14 AM EST
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"But it cannot survive treason from within."

Isn't all treason from within?
HuckFinn Offline
#370 Posted: Fri, Jul 27 2018, 9:39 AM EST
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tailgater wrote:
"But it cannot survive treason from within."

Isn't all treason from within?


So what? It's redundant. That's your takeaway?

Of course it is.
Speyside Offline
#371 Posted: Fri, Jul 27 2018, 10:44 AM EST
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Huck, to date president Trump has done nothing that is treasonous. Speaking/writing about him in a seditious manner is wrong. To accuse him of treason without absolute fact is beyond being partisan. What has he done that would be a verifiable fact that he committed treason? When did it become reasonable to accuse someone of a crime where the punishment for that crime is death?
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#372 Posted: Fri, Jul 27 2018, 11:22 AM EST
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New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman wrote that "there is overwhelming evidence that our president ... engaged in treasonous behavior." And John Brennan, a career CIA official under several presidents who served as the agency’s director between 2013 and 2017, called Trump’s actions "nothing short of treasonous."

There's an abundance of information indicating that he's committed treason.
Research it.

Trump is right now, before our eyes and those of the world, committing an unbelievable and unforgivable crime against this country. It is his failure to defend. Treasonous.
DrafterX Offline
#373 Posted: Fri, Jul 27 2018, 11:43 AM EST
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The Resistance is strong with this one... Mellow
tailgater Offline
#374 Posted: Fri, Jul 27 2018, 12:00 PM EST
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Speyside wrote:
Huck, to date president Trump



Now THAT'S newsworthy.
tailgater Offline
#375 Posted: Fri, Jul 27 2018, 12:05 PM EST
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HuckFinn wrote:
New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman wrote that "there is overwhelming evidence that our president ... engaged in treasonous behavior." And John Brennan, a career CIA official under several presidents who served as the agency’s director between 2013 and 2017, called Trump’s actions "nothing short of treasonous."

There's an abundance of information indicating that he's committed treason.
Research it.

Trump is right now, before our eyes and those of the world, committing an unbelievable and unforgivable crime against this country. It is his failure to defend. Treasonous.



We hear about treason. We see quotes that other people make the claim.
But we don't read about the specifics.
Ever.
HuckFinn Offline
#376 Posted: Fri, Jul 27 2018, 12:25 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
We hear about treason. We see quotes that other people make the claim.
But we don't read about the specifics.
Ever.


YOU don't.

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#377 Posted: Fri, Jul 27 2018, 1:07 PM EST
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Harvard law professor John Shattuck argues that even if Trump and his team didn’t knowingly coordinate the cyberattacks on the DNC with any party, their actions after the intelligence team’s conclusions were made could rise to the level of treason. He says that denying the cyberattacks, which is something Trump continues to do, and working to hamper their investigations is like “giving aid and comfort to an enemy of the United States”.


​"Donald Trump's press conference performance in Helsinki rises to and exceeds the threshold of "high crimes and misdemeanors." It was nothing short of treasonous. Not only were Trump's comments imbecilic, he is wholly in the pocket of Putin. Republican Patriots: Where are you???" former CIA Director John Brennan tweeted on July 16.

According to 18 U.S. Code § 2381: “Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.”
tailgater Offline
#378 Posted: Fri, Jul 27 2018, 2:28 PM EST
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HuckFinn wrote:
Harvard law professor John Shattuck argues that even if Trump and his team didn’t knowingly coordinate the cyberattacks on the DNC with any party, their actions after the intelligence team’s conclusions were made could rise to the level of treason. He says that denying the cyberattacks, which is something Trump continues to do, and working to hamper their investigations is like “giving aid and comfort to an enemy of the United States”.


​"Donald Trump's press conference performance in Helsinki rises to and exceeds the threshold of "high crimes and misdemeanors." It was nothing short of treasonous. Not only were Trump's comments imbecilic, he is wholly in the pocket of Putin. Republican Patriots: Where are you???" former CIA Director John Brennan tweeted on July 16.

According to 18 U.S. Code § 2381: “Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.”



TDS is strong with this one.

You literally can't even supply one piece of evidence that condemns Trump's treason.
You can do nothing more than quote other people who FEEL Trump is treasonous. Or give yet more examples of what defines treason, without showing that Trump DID any of those things.

Holy crap.
It's like your brain stopped on election day.
Seriously.
You have ZERO argument.
Well, except for a sternly worded tweet from John Brennan.
That and some liberal professor who thinks that Trump'd denial of a cyber attack is proof positive he committed treason.
Huck, even most liberals would agree that you've completely lost it. Assuming we can find an honest one.

But don't ask me.
I'm a bully.
delta1 Offline
#379 Posted: Fri, Jul 27 2018, 2:45 PM EST
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lol...I do believe that tail heard "vow of celibacy" when there was a call for a "vow of civility" here...
DrafterX Offline
#380 Posted: Fri, Jul 27 2018, 2:52 PM EST
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How about Obama's order to stand down against cyber attacks... Think
delta1 Offline
#381 Posted: Fri, Jul 27 2018, 2:58 PM EST
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splain...
DrafterX Offline
#382 Posted: Fri, Jul 27 2018, 3:14 PM EST
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Jun 21, 2018 · Former Obama administration National Security Council cybersecurity coordinator Michael Daniel confirmed on Wednesday that a "stand down" order was given to counter Russian cyberattacks during the 2016 election.

Film at 11... Mellow
tailgater Offline
#383 Posted: Fri, Jul 27 2018, 3:48 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
lol...I do believe that tail heard "vow of celibacy" when there was a call for a "vow of civility" here...


Was I uncivil?

But I typed everything with my pinkie extended.
HuckFinn Offline
#384 Posted: Fri, Jul 27 2018, 3:48 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
TDS is strong with this one.

You literally can't even supply one piece of evidence that condemns Trump's treason.
You can do nothing more than quote other people who FEEL Trump is treasonous. Or give yet more examples of what defines treason, without showing that Trump DID any of those things.

Holy crap.
It's like your brain stopped on election day.
Seriously.
You have ZERO argument.
Well, except for a sternly worded tweet from John Brennan.
That and some liberal professor who thinks that Trump'd denial of a cyber attack is proof positive he committed treason.
Huck, even most liberals would agree that you've completely lost it. Assuming we can find an honest one.

But don't ask me.
I'm a bully.





As usual, you're talking out of the wrong orifice.

You're clearly incapable of connecting dots. Just one of many dots, the Helsinki press conference. Trump rather than admonish Putin for well-documented, undeniable election interference, instead announces to the world that he has no reason to distrust Putin.

Imagine any Democrat potus saying that. You'd faint. And I for one would leave you there.
He trusts Putin over his own intelligence agencies!? Explain?! Help?!!
All snide deflection and remarks aside, why? ...You won't answer. Too real.

Is it unimportant? Why does he side with Putin? Not suspicious given the larger context regarding NATO?
He likes Russia? Is that it? Really. Talk to me.

Rod Rosenstein, the deputy attorney general, announced criminal indictments against 12 members of the Russia Military Intelligence agency. The indictment laid out in extraordinary detail the extent to which Russian hackers sought to infiltrate the computer networks of the DNC and Hillary. There've been over 30 convictions and guilty pleas so far. And its not over! Why does Trump downplay this? It's fun? Antagonistic? For his diary? You love him..

Really. This acceptable to you? A president who is effectively a Russian agent?

Trump knew about the private meeting with Russians during the campaign and at first lied.
The meeting was proportedly about adoption or some such nonsense.
Now the truth is out. He knew and wanted jr to take the meeting where dirt the Russians gathered would get shared. He cheated and lied. He conspired with RUSSIA.
Treasonous. You love him more than you love your country? Maybe....

Are you being honest with yourself in all this? You actually believe he was out of the loop?
All the king's horses and men but not the king? Stupifying...dumb and dangerous..

Me? I'm not losing anything. I'm perfectly fine. Herfing But I do have my eyes open. And you dont.

You think I want to be right. Wrong. If when the Mueller investigation is done I'll be happy either way. I want clarity. Yep, I strongly suspect he's guilty (dots) but believe it or not I hope he's not.

Last dot reference: I connect dots. You connect wisecracks. You can't handle the truth!

Tell me, if he did collude, if he is in Putin's pocket, would you even give a damn?
I don't think you would.
Speyside Offline
#385 Posted: Fri, Jul 27 2018, 4:10 PM EST
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Huck, Freidmans piece was an op ed with no factual basis. Everyone else you reference gave their opinion. You hate Trump, I get that. I'm not a fan of his either, but none of his known actions are treasonous.
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#386 Posted: Fri, Jul 27 2018, 4:14 PM EST
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To be more accurate I should say it is my opinion that his known actions are treasonous.
tailgater Offline
#387 Posted: Fri, Jul 27 2018, 4:31 PM EST
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HuckFinn wrote:
As usual, you're talking out of the wrong orifice. I consider my audience.

You're clearly incapable of connecting dots. Just one of many dots, the Helsinki press conference. Trump rather than admonish Putin for well-documented, undeniable election interference, instead announces to the world that he has no reason to distrust Putin.

Imagine any Democrat potus saying that. You'd faint. And I for one would leave you there.
He trusts Putin over his own intelligence agencies!? Explain?! Help?!!
All snide deflection and remarks aside, why? ...You won't answer. Too real.

Is it unimportant? Why does he side with Putin? Not suspicious given the larger context regarding NATO?
He likes Russia? Is that it? Really. Talk to me.

Rod Rosenstein, the deputy attorney general, announced criminal indictments against 12 members of the Russia Military Intelligence agency. The indictment laid out in extraordinary detail the extent to which Russian hackers sought to infiltrate the computer networks of the DNC and Hillary. There've been over 30 convictions and guilty pleas so far. And its not over! Why does Trump downplay this? It's fun? Antagonistic? For his diary? You love him..

Really. This acceptable to you? A president who is effectively a Russian agent?
Russian agent?
This isn't a Hyperbole Contest. You should stop, just once, and listen to yourself.
Don't forget: Obama was POTUS during the election. There is evidence to suggest that the US knew about Russian meddling. Obama did nothing. I guess he's a Russian agent too.
And Obama is also a cop killer. Because he said the words that riled up the shooter in Dallas to kill cops. Yup. Obama is a cop killing Russian agent.
Yes.
That's how stupid you sound.

Trump knew about the private meeting with Russians during the campaign and at first lied.
The meeting was proportedly about adoption or some such nonsense.
Now the truth is out. He knew and wanted jr to take the meeting where dirt the Russians gathered would get shared. He cheated and lied. He conspired with RUSSIA.
Treasonous. You love him more than you love your country? Maybe....
So Trump wanted someone to have dirt on him? Because that's what you're saying here.
What was the conspiracy? Honest question, because you continue to use words that you don't seem to understand. If he conspired, what was the conspiracy? What did Trump gain?
Pretend I don't read the news. Tell me specifically what he gave the Russians that gives them an advantage on America.
Because I'm shocked. SHOCKED I tell you. That something this important is being left to innuendo, winks and nods.
I guess if you say "If you're smart then you'd know already" enough times then people will stop asking.

Are you being honest with yourself in all this? You actually believe he was out of the loop?
All the king's horses and men but not the king? Stupifying...dumb and dangerous..

Me? I'm not losing anything. I'm perfectly fine. Herfing But I do have my eyes open. And you dont.

You think I want to be right. Wrong. If when the Mueller investigation is done I'll be happy either way. I want clarity. Yep, I strongly suspect he's guilty (dots) but believe it or not I hope he's not.

Last dot reference: I connect dots. You connect wisecracks. You can't handle the truth!

Tell me, if he did collude, if he is in Putin's pocket, would you even give a damn?
I don't think you would.


Trump.
The Egotist.
Purposely put himself in Putin's Pocket.
For no obvious gain. Or none that those accusing him will share (wink wink).
Trump. The Egotist. Just likes being in Putin's pocket.
At his beck and call.
Because, well...
RUSSIA.
tailgater Offline
#388 Posted: Fri, Jul 27 2018, 4:32 PM EST
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Speyside wrote:
To be more accurate I should say it is my opinion that his known actions are treasonous.


That's because you aren't connecting the dots.
Duh.
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#389 Posted: Fri, Jul 27 2018, 4:37 PM EST
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Speyside wrote:
To be more accurate I should say it is my opinion that his known actions are treasonous.

Not to belabor...but how can so many of his associates be guilty and he's not?

Trump openly ran on a pro-Russia platform, adopting Russian views on the conflicts in Syria and Ukraine, defending Putin’s character, and vowing to break up the NATO alliance.

He explicitly called on the Russian government to hack and release Hillary Clinton’s emails.
Drafter? LHU!!

This is beyond not normal. This is suspicious at very least.

There's way too much smoke to not be fire.

I suspect that no evidence will convince his supporters otherwise.
And that IF the Mueller investigation leads to impeachment or worse for Trump his supporters will cry foul.

According to NYT article I read, his supporters know he lies and don't care. Some even get a kick out of it.

Good times.

Drafter: Obama....too...
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#390 Posted: Fri, Jul 27 2018, 4:42 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
TDS is strong with this one.

You literally can't even supply one piece of evidence that condemns Trump's treason.
You can do nothing more than quote other people who FEEL Trump is treasonous. Or give yet more examples of what defines treason, without showing that Trump DID any of those things.

Holy crap.
It's like your brain stopped on election day.
Seriously.
You have ZERO argument.
Well, except for a sternly worded tweet from John Brennan.
That and some liberal professor who thinks that Trump'd denial of a cyber attack is proof positive he committed treason.
Huck, even most liberals would agree that you've completely lost it. Assuming we can find an honest one.

But don't ask me.
I'm a bully.






Don't get him started.....Huck'll post 6-7 links where 6 will quote the same person's "BELIEFS" about it, the 7th will refer to the "BELIEFS" of what they descibe as "a Non-credible critic"(I think it may e the same person mentioned in the other six links)Think ....

and try to sell it as "having researched multiple sources"d'oh!
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#391 Posted: Fri, Jul 27 2018, 4:45 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
Trump.
The Egotist.
Purposely put himself in Putin's Pocket.
For no obvious gain. Or none that those accusing him will share (wink wink).
Trump. The Egotist. Just likes being in Putin's pocket.
At his beck and call.
Because, well...
RUSSIA.





Obama has said subsequently that he didn't make a public statement about Russian election interference because he 'didn't want to upset the applecart'

He knew it would be perceived as partisan.

Everything else you've said is pulp.

And of course you won't answer the question: why then does Trump prefer Putin's word over his own intelligence agencies?

I realize you'd have to apply critical thinking to answer. And that sucks.
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#392 Posted: Fri, Jul 27 2018, 4:47 PM EST
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RMAN4443 wrote:
Don't get him started.....Huck'll post 6-7 links where 6 will quote the same person's "BELIEFS" about it, the 7th will refer to the "BELIEFS" of what they descibe as "a Non-credible critic"(I think it may e the same person mentioned in the other six links)Think ....

and try to sell it as "having researched multiple sources"d'oh!


Shhhh.
He'll hear you.
tailgater Offline
#393 Posted: Fri, Jul 27 2018, 4:52 PM EST
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HuckFinn wrote:
Obama has said subsequently that he didn't make a public statement about Russian election interference because he 'didn't want to upset the applecart'

He knew it would be perceived as partisan.

Everything else you've said is pulp.

And of course you won't answer the question: why then does Trump prefer Putin's word over his own intelligence agencies?

I realize you'd have to apply critical thinking to answer. And that sucks.


I've previously agreed that his Helsinki comments were in poor form.

This is yet another example of you being dissatisfied until every agree with you and hates our President with equal (misguided) fervor.

I posed serious questions to you and you call it pulp.
Which is fine. Because you are saddled with terminal TDS.

SMY



(Six More Years).
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#394 Posted: Fri, Jul 27 2018, 4:55 PM EST
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RMAN4443 wrote:
Don't get him started.....Huck'll post 6-7 links where 6 will quote the same person's "BELIEFS" about it, the 7th will refer to the "BELIEFS" of what they descibe as "a Non-credible critic"(I think it may e the same person mentioned in the other six links)Think ....

and try to sell it as "having researched multiple sources"d'oh!

As much as your father beat you as a child, apparently it wasn't enough.
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#395 Posted: Fri, Jul 27 2018, 4:58 PM EST
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HuckFinn wrote:
As much as your father beat you as a child, apparently it wasn't enough.

That's what he used to say...Think


he also used to say "this is gonna hurt me more than it hurts you".....I used to feel bad I caused him to feel bad...Not talking
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#396 Posted: Fri, Jul 27 2018, 4:59 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:

Which is fine. Because you are saddled with terminal TDS.






Oh? Is Donald unwell?
delta1 Offline
#397 Posted: Fri, Jul 27 2018, 8:27 PM EST
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Six More Years...?


.....I dunno.....even McConnell and Ryan seem determined to let the Mueller Investigation reach a final conclusion...


With all the indictments that have been handed down, and the language in them that implies more indictments are coming...the next 12 months will be very interesting...

if anyone associated with Trump and his campaign are indicted, will the American people re-elect him?
Speyside Offline
#398 Posted: Fri, Jul 27 2018, 8:47 PM EST
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LMAO! I meant to print his known actions are not treasonous. A Trumpian slip?
DrafterX Offline
#399 Posted: Fri, Jul 27 2018, 8:50 PM EST
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They almost elected Hillary with well known crimes against her... Sad really... Mellow
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#400 Posted: Fri, Jul 27 2018, 9:25 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
if anyone associated with Trump and his campaign are indicted, will the American people re-elect him?


If this forum is indicative of the American public, then yes...they most certainly will.
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