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I never heard that phrase before...has anyone here at all ever heard or used it? odds are not one person anywhere.


Doesn't mean he is so stupid that he would have intentionally called the guy a monkey, nor does it mean he is a racist, just wondering what he thinks he meant.

Muddy (or muck) things up.
Cowboy up.
Shut up.

Never monkey, though.

I can see why you feel the media is unfair...

I blame Steve.

I was kinda young and unaware....I think I would have thought he wanted us to leave his stuff alone and fiddle with our own things.....

if you had black friends over would your dad ask them to pass him the crackers and cheese or the banana cream pie?

or the oreos or the monkey bread?

I find it funny, though, that some people, mostly white, decry the PC culture because it restrains their abilities to speak openly without restraint. The stuff that they want to say is usually stuff they historically were able to say that was considered by other people to be offensive, insulting, demeaning, dehumanizing.

As our society becomes more diverse and egalitarian, some people cling to the old comfortable dynamics, refusing to acknowledge or accept those who were below them.

we are trying very hard.
but, FL...

No way to know what goes on in other people's minds, but reading around I'm personally convinced the remark wasn't racist.
His explanation seemed legit.

Besides, why would he commit political suicide with a blatant racial slur?

And that he voted for Hillary

I can't imagine him having any malicious intent. That would only play with the racists. The vast majority of Trump supporters are not racist. I think Huck is probably correct.

Warren won't need them in this commonwealth.
Heck, even Mondale won in Massachusetts. (only state).

If they vote in FL, tell them to push firmly.
Chad likes to dangle.

yes, COL is allowed.

Let's be honest here...if a well meaning person was engaged in a conversation about another person and blurts out something that the other could interpret as offensive, and the speaker was informed by his listeners of that fact... if it wasn't his intent to insult or play to his audience, he would not respond with something akin to "I didn't mean it that way and you're too f'n sensitive to interpret it that way...I was talking about socialism"...even the Fox Newsperson, Sandra Smith, said they do not condone such language...

A man who was well-intentioned and meant no offense would immediately say, in response to having been informed of the "offensive words," would say, "dang, I didn't mean it that way and I sincerely apologize for that mistake" and an honorable man would reach out to the other person, who was the "target" of the faux pas, and assure him that although they have political differences, he did not mean to denigrate the other's race or inject race into the campaign...

but, that requires a well-meaning and honorable man...

Wait, when you say Donald used the 'N' word, you mean 'nocollusion', right?
I think I heard him use That word.
Once, maybe twice.

give me an example of when he used racially charged "trigger" words and defended his use of those words...

DrafterX
I can't imagine him having any malicious intent. That would only play with the racists. The vast majority of Trump supporters are not racist. I think Huck is probably gay

Drafter, dude, stop listening to your boyfriend.

So you too went and Googled it, eh?

Drafter wasn't beaten enough as a kid probably.

Some white people may have interpreted things that Obama said as racist, because he responded to events as a person who lived his life being black. Imagine that...the man was a black man, and he saw things from that perspective and sometimes expressed that...a real racist, even though white people have held all the levers of power until just a few short decades ago, and still control the vast majority of them, and they have shaped our society to this point...

As POTUS, he chose on some occasions, not to take the safe "go along to get along" stepnfetchit manner that some whites prefer in black people. He was outspoken, but not extremely so, unlike Ali or even MLK, but some white people are not tolerant of minorities who speak out. Ali was imprisoned, MLK was shot and killed...

Derek Jeter was non-controversial and was well-respected in white society. LeBron is now viewed as someone who should just shut up and dribble.

Unless one has felt the sting and indignities of being a second, third or fourth class citizen, or even invisible, it's difficult to empathize. It's like a background smell that permeates your existence, and occasionally reeks, if you are not white...

I know that feeling.. but I can also see when it's being abused... I've been denied using a restroom.. granted it was about 40 years ago...

No doubt there's many neighborhoods in many cities where anyone but blacks would be in serious trouble by just walking down da street...

That's a silly argument..

Forrest Gump was allowed to attend a a Black Panther party..

Flipping channels last night I saw a little of a new show called The Shop (HBO ) hosted by Lebron.
It's completely unscripted with guys just hanging and bs-ing like people do at a barber shop.
Jon Stewart, Snoop Dogg, Odell Beckham, bunch of guys...only white guy, Stewart (Drafter was busy)

Was interesting. They talked about Black people in America, the N word, how Blacks impact our culture in a big way through music, sport, language etc and how they know they're perceived by Whites.

Was mostly interesting...some of them tried to make little speeches..click...

http://toofab.com/2018/08/29/lebron-james-jon-stewart-snoop-dogg-n-word-quitting-hbo-the-shop-premiere/

You're missing the point by a mile.

We're not talking about exclusion. At least I wasn't.

If my neighbor used the N word, that isn't exclusion. That's just bigotry. And I'm being told that it's much worse than calling an Italian a WOP.
I want to know why.

Well I'm half Italian.
So by my math, that makes me three times more offended...