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DrafterX Offline
#251 Posted: Thu, Jan 14 2021, 3:11 PM EST
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danmdevries wrote:
Looked up a bunch of restaurants where we're staying (St Pete's beach) looks like a tourist/party area so there's endless options. Would've been nicer if my parents came along, it was their idea in the first place, and they were gonna take the boy back to their condo in Orlando between the two days of camper show. Oh well. Got a bunch of ideas of other things to do, there's a state park or nature preserve not too far.
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St Petersburg..?? One of my favorite places... there's a cool restaurant called Gators right under the bridge at St John's Pass.... it's cool to sit outside and watch the draw bridge at work... been there a few times but only for breakfas. And you gotta visit the Undertow bar for sure... Fort Desoto is worth visiting also... ThumpUp
Ram27 Offline
#252 Posted: Thu, Jan 14 2021, 3:20 PM EST
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If restaurants are open?!?! Think
teedubbya Offline
#253 Posted: Thu, Jan 14 2021, 3:33 PM EST
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Thank goodness for RAM. Bless his little heart.
danmdevries Offline
#254 Posted: Thu, Jan 14 2021, 3:57 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
St Petersburg..?? One of my favorite places... there's a cool restaurant called Gators right under the bridge at St John's Pass.... it's cool to sit outside and watch the draw bridge at work... been there a few times but only for breakfas. And you gotta visit the Undertow bar for sure... Fort Desoto is worth visiting also... ThumpUp


That fort desoto park is on my list to visit. We're on the Key out in the bay, called st pete beach, and fort de soto park is straight south from us, so I plan to go there.

I'm thinking we might only do one day at the RV show even though the tickets are all 2 day passes. There's other stuff in the area to do outdoors. We'll see.

That park we're going to visit for sure though.

I'm staying at Alden Suites on Gulf Blvd on St Pete Beach
HockeyDad Offline
#255 Posted: Thu, Jan 14 2021, 4:05 PM EST
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Wanna get weird......Salvador Dali Museum.
DrafterX Offline
#256 Posted: Thu, Jan 14 2021, 4:07 PM EST
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danmdevries wrote:
That fort desoto park is on my list to visit. We're on the Key out in the bay, called st pete beach, and fort de soto park is straight south from us, so I plan to go there.

I'm thinking we might only do one day at the RV show even though the tickets are all 2 day passes. There's other stuff in the area to do outdoors. We'll see.

That park we're going to visit for sure though.

I'm staying at Alden Suites on Gulf Blvd on St Pete Beach



the Undertow is right there... St. John's Pass is just a couple miles north.... Have fun..!!! Laugh
rfenst Offline
#257 Posted: Thu, Jan 14 2021, 4:08 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
Wanna get weird......Salvador Dali Museum.

world famous. probably expensive to get in- I dunno...
Might want to add the Florida aquarium in tampa to the list...
danmdevries Offline
#258 Posted: Thu, Jan 14 2021, 4:21 PM EST
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rfenst wrote:
world famous. probably expensive to get in- I dunno...
Might want to add the Florida aquarium in tampa to the list...


Not looking to do indoor stuff. Normally we do zoos and aquariums when we travel, but there's like a pandemic and stuff right now.

Gonna do the RV show, the park, and probably hang out on the beach. Not gonna be too warm tho. I just hope we get through without rain.
teedubbya Offline
#259 Posted: Thu, Jan 14 2021, 4:29 PM EST
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I think there’s a nude beach there you may want to look that up
8trackdisco Offline
#260 Posted: Thu, Jan 14 2021, 6:05 PM EST
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tonygraz wrote:
HAPPY NATIONAL HOT PASTRAMI SANDWICH DAY. shoulda picked up some pastrami and rye at the store yesterday


I could go for a nice hot pastrami sandwich about now.
MACS Offline
#261 Posted: Thu, Jan 14 2021, 6:15 PM EST
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deadeyedick wrote:
This does not sound fun but better than losing your taste ...... oh wait, you bought that truck.

dkeage wrote:
=d>
Beer

8trackdisco wrote:
Ziiiiiiiiiing.


Ya'll can both kiss my ass... My RAM 1500 will prolly out-pull and out-haul both your trucks! And I got a better interior, with a 12 inch touchscreen and a 10 speaker Alpine Stereo... and Sirius XM for a year. Suckit! LOL

395 hp, 410 lb trq - 11,700# towing and 1600# payload. Try that with your 6 cyl twin turbo... LOL
Cheno Offline
#262 Posted: Thu, Jan 14 2021, 6:34 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
Ya'll can both kiss my ass... My RAM 1500 will prolly out-pull and out-haul both your trucks! And I got a better interior, with a 12 inch touchscreen and a 10 speaker Alpine Stereo... and Sirius XM for a year. Suckit! LOL

395 hp, 410 lb trq - 11,700# towing and 1600# payload. Try that with your 6 cyl twin turbo... LOL



So you're saying, you got a small dingy....
DrafterX Offline
#263 Posted: Thu, Jan 14 2021, 6:37 PM EST
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My friend Rusty just bought a 2020 Ram 1 ton diesel.. not a dually.. he plans on putting a camper on it and heading to Alaska next year... it's a deep maroon with black bumpers and trim... very nice truck... Mellow
izonfire Offline
#264 Posted: Thu, Jan 14 2021, 6:37 PM EST
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Cheno wrote:
So you're saying, you got a small dingy....

That seems to be it in a nutshell...
MACS Offline
#265 Posted: Thu, Jan 14 2021, 6:42 PM EST
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Cheno wrote:
Welcome to Thursday! Wifey's birthday today. The big 35! Have a great day everyone.


Happy birfday Mrs Cheno...

I typed other stuff, but it was highly inappropriate... so I deleted it. Yay me!
MACS Offline
#266 Posted: Thu, Jan 14 2021, 6:43 PM EST
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Cheno wrote:
So you're saying, you got a small dingy....


Are you new here? I married an Asian broad... she thinks it's yuge.
Palama Offline
#267 Posted: Thu, Jan 14 2021, 6:44 PM EST
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8trackdisco wrote:
I could go for a nice hot pastrami sandwich about now.


For lunch we tried a new place today and ordered their Triple Reuben sammich. Pastrami, brisket, smoked turkey, Russian dressing, sauerkraut and Swiss cheese...on rye, of course. Good although a bit overpriced...but wanted to support a local eatery.
izonfire Offline
#268 Posted: Thu, Jan 14 2021, 6:47 PM EST
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Oh yeah, happy birthday to Lady Chen Chen.

I'm glad MACS decided to show some restraint.
Although I do love it when he resorts to mean-posting when he's drunk...
MACS Offline
#269 Posted: Thu, Jan 14 2021, 6:49 PM EST
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izonfire wrote:
Oh yeah, happy birthday to Lady Chen Chen.

I'm glad MACS decided to show some restraint.
Although I do love it when he resorts to mean-posting when he's drunk...


It's not "mean" per se... just questionably inappropriate... and usually profane. I'm a sailor and a gaoler... whataya want from me?
izonfire Offline
#270 Posted: Thu, Jan 14 2021, 6:49 PM EST
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Boy, a hot pastrami sandwich would really hit the spot. Mellow
MACS Offline
#271 Posted: Thu, Jan 14 2021, 6:52 PM EST
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I'm having a french dip sammich... shredded beef chuck roast on a french roll with provolone cheese.

I would have just said shredded "chuck" but I saw what you bassards did to Wheel when he had chuck. Anxious
izonfire Offline
#272 Posted: Thu, Jan 14 2021, 6:53 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
It's not "mean" per se... just questionably inappropriate... and usually profane. I'm a sailor and a gaoler... whataya want from me?

Uhhhhhh, I beg to differ.
I've seen a few dingers posted.
But we wouldn't want anything else from you MACS...
Cheno Offline
#273 Posted: Thu, Jan 14 2021, 6:53 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
Are you new here? I married an Asian broad... she thinks it's yuge.



I was gonna go there too, but I figured you would of taken it as a compliment.
MACS Offline
#274 Posted: Thu, Jan 14 2021, 6:57 PM EST
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Cheno wrote:
I was gonna go there too, but I figured you would of taken it as a compliment.


I would HAVE taken it. Again... sailor to gaoler. Pretty difficult to offend me. Just be careful when you do. Izon thinks I'm mean.
Palama Offline
#275 Posted: Thu, Jan 14 2021, 6:58 PM EST
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Cheno wrote:
Welcome to Thursday! Wifey's birthday today. The big 35! Have a great day everyone.


Hau’oli la hanau to NC! 🎂
izonfire Offline
#276 Posted: Thu, Jan 14 2021, 7:06 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
...... Izon thinks I'm mean.

Not at all MACS. It's all in fun.
I've made plenty of "spirited" posts myself...
MACS Offline
#277 Posted: Thu, Jan 14 2021, 7:12 PM EST
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Yessir, bruddah... just flingin some poop.

I blame it on Smooth Light. Fugger keeps saying it's thirsty Thursday every Thursday... and some of them I take him at his word. 2 beers and a whiskey sour.

I'm Good... just don't ask me to drive anywhere. BigGrin
rfenst Offline
#278 Posted: Thu, Jan 14 2021, 7:32 PM EST
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8trackdisco wrote:
I could go for a nice hot pastrami sandwich about now.

Next best thing after bacon.
teedubbya Offline
#279 Posted: Thu, Jan 14 2021, 7:37 PM EST
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I’m also thankful for izon
MACS Offline
#280 Posted: Thu, Jan 14 2021, 7:41 PM EST
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^Has he introduced you to his goats?
danmdevries Offline
#281 Posted: Thu, Jan 14 2021, 7:53 PM EST
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Palama wrote:
For lunch we tried a new place today and ordered their Triple Reuben sammich. Pastrami, brisket, smoked turkey, Russian dressing, sauerkraut and Swiss cheese...on rye, of course. Good although a bit overpriced...but wanted to support a local eatery.

That sounds delicious.
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#282 Posted: Thu, Jan 14 2021, 8:03 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
Ya'll can both kiss my ass... My RAM 1500 will prolly out-pull and out-haul both your trucks! And I got a better interior, with a 12 inch touchscreen and a 10 speaker Alpine Stereo... and Sirius XM for a year. Suckit! LOL

395 hp, 410 lb trq - 11,700# towing and 1600# payload. Try that with your 6 cyl twin turbo... LOL


chit. I'd have to check the paperwork but it looks like your new half tonner on paper got my 3/4 beat in the numbers game minus payload. I've got 3300lbs payload. Pretty much the only number I care about so I know how much camper I can put on there. Not sure what the power rating is on the 6.4 in my truck, I assume around the same 400/400 but probably detuned a bit for HD use.

Even if it says I can only tow 11k, 13k will be fine. Hell, I towed 20k+ short distance with my old Chevy taking an excavator home and back, and 14-15k back and forth to Detroit from Chicago with two cars on a trailer. But I don't want to exceed payload, that's when things really get screwy. I overloaded a suburban many times back in the day and it was not safe at all. Those experiences are why I drive 3/4 ton trucks now. I don't want to worry about the load, just hitch it up and go. Linear load weight doesn't matter, I could tow 30k lbs as long as the tongue weight was 3k or less. Not gonna go anywhere quickly, but it'll move.

Our old farm trucks saw those loads daily and kept on going, and they were inline 6 cyl gas Fords with manual transmissions. I remember trying to get 14k lbs of soybeans out of a field with a 2wd pickup. I rocked that thing back and forth for 10 minutes before I got enough momentum to get it out. Once I hit pavement it was just foot to the floor and shift when it no longer pulled (no tach on the dash). Drove that from Lansing IL to Chicago to unload at the grain silos. Could get up to 50ish mph but not much more.
MACS Offline
#283 Posted: Thu, Jan 14 2021, 8:27 PM EST
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Not sure if you understand "payload" Danm... that's how much sh*t you can put in your truck bed and be cool. A camper is not "payload", my friend. It's towing capacity. Maybe I'm a lot drunk, here... but you have 3 numbers to be concerned with.

Towing capacity - The weight your truck can safely PULL.
Payload - the weight your truck can safely HAUL (in your truck bed).
Tongue weight - The weight a fully loaded trailer exerts on your hitch. Should not exceed 10-15% of your tow weight.
DrafterX Offline
#284 Posted: Thu, Jan 14 2021, 8:30 PM EST
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A camper and a trailer are two different things... Mellow
danmdevries Offline
#285 Posted: Thu, Jan 14 2021, 8:33 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
Not sure if you understand "payload" Danm... that's how much sh*t you can put in your truck bed and be cool. A camper is not "payload", my friend. It's towing capacity. Maybe I'm a lot drunk, here... but you have 3 numbers to be concerned with.

Towing capacity - The weight your truck can safely PULL.
Payload - the weight your truck can safely HAUL (in your truck bed).
Tongue weight - The weight a fully loaded trailer exerts on your hitch. Should not exceed 10-15% of your tow weight.


Tongue weight or pin weight if talking 5th wheel/gooseneck is part of payload. Payload is occupants + cargo + tongue weight. Quickly overloads half ton ratings, though my old farm trucks were all half tons with gooseneck hitches in the beds and I'd assume grossly overloaded. But they got the job done.

If I've got a car on a trailer, I prefer to have it as far frontwards as possible to reduce sway which increases tongue weight/payload. If running a lighter duty truck I've gotta straddle the trailer axles and find the right balance. 3/4 ton truck don't give a chit, just run it up to the front and won't bottom out. I've accidentally ended up too far back on the trailer with my old suburban and anything over 50mph I'd be swaying all over. Had to pull over and move up a bit more.

If you're running gooseneck/fifth wheel you're gonna see 20% pin weight which is in the middle of the bed, and part of payload cap.

My next camper I want to be a fifth wheel toy hauler. Not because I have a toy to haul, but because the modern floorplans of travel trailers don't have a cavity down the center where we can put our bikes and grils and other stuff, and a toy hauler gives us that plus a separate room for the boy. But they're heavy cause they're made to hold a side by side or other ATV motorcycles etc. So pretty much anything that I want is gonna be 10k lbs plus. Which puts 2k on the pin, in the bed, as payload.
MACS Offline
#286 Posted: Thu, Jan 14 2021, 8:41 PM EST
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Okay... I wasn't thinking of a 5th wheel. Strictly towing with a hitch ball. I ain't got a 5th wheel hitch... my buddy Glenn does... and he can pull 24,000 lbs with his Ford F250 Powerstroke... which has that hitch.

6.7L turbodiesel, though... whole nuther fkn ball game... and another 25k in price.
Cheno Offline
#287 Posted: Thu, Jan 14 2021, 8:44 PM EST
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The Mrs. Cheno says thank you for the birthday wishes.
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#288 Posted: Thu, Jan 14 2021, 8:47 PM EST
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Cheno wrote:
The Mrs. Cheno says thank you for the birthday wishes.


Any reason you're reading the forum and not doing that special thing she likes? C'mon man... get crackin'.
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#289 Posted: Thu, Jan 14 2021, 8:49 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
Okay... I wasn't thinking of a 5th wheel. Strictly towing with a hitch ball. I ain't got a 5th wheel hitch... my buddy Glenn does... and he can pull 24,000 lbs with his Ford F250 Powerstroke... which has that hitch.

6.7L turbodiesel, though... whole nuther fkn ball game... and another 25k in price.


Yeah, I wish I could go diesel. I'm stuck in the sub 12klb trailer segment. I got a buddy Cory who runs a 16k lb tri axle toy hauler all over the country with his F450 but that's a 100k trailer on a 100k truck.

There's plenty options under 12k lbs, I'd prefer to get closer to 8k since I'm running gas, but the toy haulers are heavy. I don't tow far for camping, but for Gridlife I do...

Camper show in Tampa this weekend so I can figure out what I want to look for. Maybe. Been doing camper shows for years saying the same damn thing, I'll find what I want...
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#290 Posted: Thu, Jan 14 2021, 8:51 PM EST
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Paulaner hefe weizen tonight. On number 3 and by the time this is gone I'll be ready for bed. Gotta leave for the airport by 0830 to have reasonable time for the things. Flight leaves at 1030.
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#291 Posted: Thu, Jan 14 2021, 8:55 PM EST
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Bout ready to pull the trigger on a jeep with 375hp and 470 pounds torque. Pedestrian towing capacity but that’s not my thing.
MACS Offline
#292 Posted: Thu, Jan 14 2021, 8:58 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Bout ready to pull the trigger on a jeep with 375hp and 470 pounds torque. Pedestrian towing capacity but that’s not my thing.


470 lbs of torque in a jeep? Get the fuq outa here? What engine?

Call me dubious...
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#293 Posted: Thu, Jan 14 2021, 9:06 PM EST
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Instant torque

4xe

4 cylinder turbo charged hybrid plug in

0-60 in 6 seconds. Not blazing but it’s a wrangler.

And yes....375 hp 470 torque
teedubbya Offline
#294 Posted: Thu, Jan 14 2021, 9:07 PM EST
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The 392 has 470hp, 470 tourque, 4.5 seconds to 60 mph and 13 second quarter mile lol

In a wrangler

Who needs that though lol.
tonygraz Offline
#295 Posted: Thu, Jan 14 2021, 9:08 PM EST
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He needs it to tow Drafter.
teedubbya Offline
#296 Posted: Thu, Jan 14 2021, 9:09 PM EST
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tonygraz wrote:
He needs it to tow Drafter.



Drafter uses a hot air balloon. No gondola. I saw him cruising in front of Macy’s last thanksgiving.
MACS Offline
#297 Posted: Thu, Jan 14 2021, 9:13 PM EST
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Ayite... electric motor makes a world of difference for tq #'s.

If you think you're going to reliably tow anything with a 4cyl and an electirc boost... you're a dumbass.
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#298 Posted: Thu, Jan 14 2021, 9:17 PM EST
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Not lookin to tow anything substantial. Not really what I’m looking for. Liking the 50mpg* and ability to go all gas, all electric or combined. Most my trips now days are short. All electric will work for me.

I think all Jeep’s w-rangers have the same towing capacity at least the 4, 6 and 4xe. Not sure about the 392. I think the design of the wrangler is problematic for heavy towing anyway.
teedubbya Offline
#299 Posted: Thu, Jan 14 2021, 9:18 PM EST
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Oh the starfish mark means 50mpg in a plug in is calculated differently or some such nonsense.

I’ll tow a little trailer with no issue at all. Big boat etc, nah.
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#300 Posted: Thu, Jan 14 2021, 9:23 PM EST
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Just looked. Even the 3l diesel only has a towing capacity to 3500 lb.
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