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#201 Posted: Tue, Mar 5 2024, 12:14 PM EST
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81022 - Padron 3K NT
LeeBot Offline
#202 Posted: Tue, Mar 5 2024, 12:48 PM EST
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Stogie1020 wrote:
81019 JdN Antano with three plus years on it. Nice, but a bit too mild for my preference after its nap

I've noticed that those tend to lose steam pretty quickly. I think they may just be a cigar that is better ROTT. I should smoke the ones I have pronto.

81023 - Oliva V Maduro toro from Jake. Thanks, Jake! I can honestly say that although this cigar reminded me of a stale Marlboro smoked on the way to get a colonoscopy (espresso on the retrohale), it was only terrible and not apocalyptically terrible. I didn't turn into a zombie or anything.

I think I'll buy some when I get some storage space opened up. I've seen them on the other auction site at decent prices.
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#203 Posted: Tue, Mar 5 2024, 1:42 PM EST
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I bought a TON of the Antano and Brazilia a few years back, but since I had no stash, I was smoking them pretty soon after I bought them. This was a toro, which I don't often have time to smoke, so it sat in the bottom of the humidor for years...
delta1 Offline
#204 Posted: Tue, Mar 5 2024, 2:11 PM EST
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81024 -- Eiroa First 20 Years Colorado... last one, gotta get some more when the IR expires...list is getting long...
Palama Offline
#205 Posted: Tue, Mar 5 2024, 2:48 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
810xx -- Eiroa First 20 Years Colorado... last one, gotta get some more when the IR expires...list is getting long...


I know you won’t know until you buy ‘em and try ‘em but aren’t you a little afraid / apprehensive about re-buying a blend years after the OR was released? Unless of course you consider the Eiroa’s (…specifically Christian…) to be as consistent as Padron and Fuente? Think
Jakethesnake86 Offline
#206 Posted: Tue, Mar 5 2024, 2:50 PM EST
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^ never had the original but lee just sent me some of those and I loved it
Palama Offline
#207 Posted: Tue, Mar 5 2024, 2:53 PM EST
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Jakethesnake86 wrote:
^ never had the original but lee just sent me some of those and I loved it


Well there we go! ThumpUp

The runway is cleared for takeoff! Herfing
MidnightToker( • )( • ) Offline
#208 Posted: Tue, Mar 5 2024, 3:16 PM EST
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81025 - LFD Coronado
MidnightToker( • )( • ) Offline
#209 Posted: Tue, Mar 5 2024, 5:06 PM EST
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81026 - Esteban Carreras 211
jeebling Offline
#210 Posted: Tue, Mar 5 2024, 5:48 PM EST
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81027: LGC Serie R No. 5 Robusto
81028: LGC Esteli Romusto
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#211 Posted: Tue, Mar 5 2024, 6:06 PM EST
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81029- DE Herrera Esteli short corona
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#212 Posted: Tue, Mar 5 2024, 6:36 PM EST
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81030 - DE Herrera Esteli Brazilian maduro lancero
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#213 Posted: Tue, Mar 5 2024, 8:19 PM EST
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81031 - Oliva serie g robusto
danmdevries Offline
#214 Posted: Tue, Mar 5 2024, 9:33 PM EST
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81032 Mil Dias with thanks to jakethesnake. I think this is the first non-aged mil dias I've had. That or my memory of them is fonder than reality. Or they've changed. I remember these being buttery, bready, smooth. This one is just... bad. Tight tight draw was clue 1. But it was burning pretty straight after one touchup. It tasted like the smell of cutting down a black walnut tree with a chainsaw and equally as harsh. Tossed it after the second ash drop. It started out fairly familiar with buttered toast and pepper but quickly devolved.
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#215 Posted: Tue, Mar 5 2024, 9:47 PM EST
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81033 La Mission 1959 with thanks to Stogie1020. Despite the sad aftertaste lingering from the mil dias, this one's already a pleasure. Dirty pepper some coffee ground bitterness but finishes like overcooked caramel or a sweet coffee milkshake my wife likes from Starbucks. Burn is sharp, no touchups, perfect draw. He sent me two, I ordered 2 5 packs after the first.
jeebling Offline
#216 Posted: Tue, Mar 5 2024, 10:04 PM EST
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81034: Cuba Libre The Brute 4.5 x 60
My first time smoking this one. Very nice Corojo wrapper. I enjoyed it and look forward to the next.
Jakethesnake86 Offline
#217 Posted: Tue, Mar 5 2024, 10:26 PM EST
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81035 la mission latelier 1959 (romusto). I keep hearing about this cigar so I went digging in my stash. Had a single. So far so good. I’m not usually a fan of Mexican wrappers but if done correctly they can be rather good. (Norteno). This is also quite good. Good call on this one danm and stogie.
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#218 Posted: Tue, Mar 5 2024, 10:37 PM EST
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81036 - Aging Room Core Maduro romusto
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#219 Posted: Tue, Mar 5 2024, 11:02 PM EST
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81037 LFD Colorado Oscuro

Glad the second one was good, danm.
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#220 Posted: Tue, Mar 5 2024, 11:13 PM EST
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^ That's a good 'un. Nice oily wrapper, lots of smoke on them.
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#221 Posted: Tue, Mar 5 2024, 11:15 PM EST
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81038 - FSG Intensa from JGRAZ
Palama Offline
#222 Posted: Wed, Mar 6 2024, 1:48 AM EST
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#81,03NINE - Tat Black Label CG
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#223 Posted: Wed, Mar 6 2024, 4:21 AM EST
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81040 - La Aurora Preferidos Diamond tubo perfecto
81041 - La Aurora Preferidos Ruby tubo perfecto
81042 - Liga Privada no. 9 toro
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#224 Posted: Wed, Mar 6 2024, 11:36 AM EST
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MidnightToker( • )( • ) wrote:
^ That's a good 'un. Nice oily wrapper, lots of smoke on them.

I 'like' them, but I much prefer the double ligero maduro. I buy the DL maduro by the box and thought I would try the 1994, Colorado Oscuro and Air Bender, so I grabbed some fivers of each. The 1994 was great, the CO was a little too mild for my palette and the Air Bender should be renamed to AirBall for me... LFD makes some awesome stuff, but for now I will stick with the DL maduro.
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#225 Posted: Wed, Mar 6 2024, 12:29 PM EST
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81043: Espinosa Reserva Laranja Toro 6 x 52
My first time trying this one. I see that Jake and Delta like’em so I wanted to try. Unfortunately, I was not patient enough. It didn’t burn properly and I’m 99% sure that I didn’t rest it properly at the correct RH. I’m bringing down the RH in all of my storage and intend to keep the RH between 65 - 67 range. On the back end I did notice that some palatable flavors broke out nicely. It developed from peppery only into a nice balance of nuts, fruit, leather and a slightly sweet finish. I’m going to exercise more patience and let my cigars rest longer before I go ripping into them. Also, I’m done with 70 RH. Palama keeps his at 65 RH. If it’s not too low for Palama, then it won’t be too low for me. If I can get my act together, I’ll store my dark mads and oscuro type sticks together and the lighter Habano and Connecticut tobacco together and I’ll figure out what to do with the others.
tonygraz Offline
#226 Posted: Wed, Mar 6 2024, 12:29 PM EST
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81043 - La Aurora Principes original
jeebling Offline
#227 Posted: Wed, Mar 6 2024, 12:31 PM EST
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Tonygraz and I posted at the same time. Next number should be 81045
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#228 Posted: Wed, Mar 6 2024, 12:39 PM EST
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81045-Nica Libra
81046-Don Pepin Garcia Blue
81047-Perdom Habanom Bourbon Barrel Aged Maduro
jeebling Offline
#229 Posted: Wed, Mar 6 2024, 4:40 PM EST
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81048: LPH BP Morado Romusto 5 x 52
I’ve had this blend in various vitolas and it is consistent in construction and flavor. I like the taste and there is a lot of it. The CB write up says it is “authentic” Camaroon and was rated 93. I know ratings have a short shelf life and are subject to advertising dollars but I thought this was interesting information if any noob like me is looking to introduce some new tobacco to their palate.
Jakethesnake86 Offline
#230 Posted: Wed, Mar 6 2024, 6:22 PM EST
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^ I have a box of those about 4 years old. I need to smoke one soon.

Back in the day those were really good. I had an original gifted to me a few years ago. I’ve smoked a couple boxes of the current ones and I don’t hate them. I bought another box just to age it a bit. Kinda forgot about them.
delta1 Offline
#231 Posted: Wed, Mar 6 2024, 6:26 PM EST
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Palama wrote:
Well there we go! ThumpUp

The runway is cleared for takeoff! Herfing


6 weeks left on the IR...can I get a reduction based on time served (exemplary behavior)?


81049 -- La Flor Dominicana Double Ligero Chisel...big strong motha...kicked my ass...
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#232 Posted: Wed, Mar 6 2024, 6:38 PM EST
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jeebling wrote:
81048: LPH BP Morado Romusto 5 x 52
I’ve had this blend in various vitolas and it is consistent in construction and flavor. I like the taste and there is a lot of it. The CB write up says it is “authentic” Camaroon and was rated 93. I know ratings have a short shelf life and are subject to advertising dollars but I thought this was interesting information if any noob like me is looking to introduce some new tobacco to their palate.


I have a box of the Toro from 2016 and I bust one out every 8-12 months and they are delicious.
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#233 Posted: Wed, Mar 6 2024, 7:00 PM EST
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81050 - AF 858 MD
81051 - Cohiba Black Robusto
81052 - AF Hemingway Signature NT
81053 - Cohiba Red Robusto
jeebling Offline
#234 Posted: Wed, Mar 6 2024, 7:00 PM EST
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Jake and COHoyo, I don’t have any cigar that is very old at all. I have always bought them, smoked them. I’m thinking about from now on smoking 2 or 3 out of any fiver I get and putting the rest in a separate storage to age. I’ve got all kinds of fivers and ten packs that I’m working through. I think this is a good strategy to start aging some of my sticks.
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#235 Posted: Wed, Mar 6 2024, 7:38 PM EST
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Easiest way to end up with aged cigars is to buy more than you could even think about smoking. I almost ran out last fall and since November I've bought about 700 cigars. I've smoked daily, even up to 4 in a day cause I was excited to try the new things. There are now boxes I've not even opened or tried yet I'm still trying new things most days.
PapaWhiskey Offline
#236 Posted: Wed, Mar 6 2024, 7:43 PM EST
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jeebling wrote:
Jake and COHoyo, I don’t have any cigar that is very old at all. I have always bought them, smoked them. I’m thinking about from now on smoking 2 or 3 out of any fiver I get and putting the rest in a separate storage to age. I’ve got all kinds of fivers and ten packs that I’m working through. I think this is a good strategy to start aging some of my sticks.


Good plan. It wasn't until about a year ago that I started dialing in on what I really like that I started buying boxes of my favorites and shedding cigars that sucked to make room. Some of the early ones made it through like the Cohiba Red and Black from here on cbid but many of the others were given away. Just today I smoked a Hemingway NT and a little later a Cohiba Red both from about a year ago. I had a taste for Cameroon. Both were better than ever.

Not a lot of love for non-Cuban Cohibas here but for me they've been pretty consistently nice burning, tasty cigars. I would never buy them at retail price but you can get them here for 3 or 4 dollars.

I've gotten some really well aged cigars from the guys here that were fantastic! Now stocking my own collection. Whenever I get a box I write the date on the bottom of the box so I have an idea of the vintage later. Someone mentioned that here, it's a good tip. But don't buy boxes until you really know what you like. People say it all the time and I didn't really get it until I got it. At some point it just happens.
delta1 Offline
#237 Posted: Wed, Mar 6 2024, 7:48 PM EST
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it isn't always easy to predict which cigars will get better with age...not all cigars benefit from aging...

as a general rule of thumb, darker and stronger cigars have better aging potential...lighter, milder cigars may not improve with age...cigars with unique and complex flavors that really tickle your palate should prolly be enjoyed sooner...

I have come to regret sitting on some great cigars, thinking they will get better after a few years...I now believe I should smoke the vast majority of great cigars relatively quickly and save only one or two for later...prime examples: Espinosa Laranja Reserva, Tatuaje L'Esprit de Verite 2013. During my buying hiatus, I was able to dig deep into my stash and consume some older cigars. Sure, there were some gems that were surprisingly good, possibly better than my memory of their flavors when fresh, but the majority seemed somewhat subdued, less than what I remember. Keep in mind that the blender and maker of a cigar presents to the market what he/she tasted and believes it to be worthy at that point...they put cigars on the market to be smoked, not to be stored and aged.

there are exceptions: Padrons, many premium Fuentes, the stronger La Flor Dominicana lines, and some darker My Father lines age well
PapaWhiskey Offline
#238 Posted: Wed, Mar 6 2024, 7:49 PM EST
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danmdevries wrote:
Easiest way to end up with aged cigars is to buy more than you could even think about smoking. I almost ran out last fall and since November I've bought about 700 cigars. I've smoked daily, even up to 4 in a day cause I was excited to try the new things. There are now boxes I've not even opened or tried yet I'm still trying new things most days.


Same, but if it's a new box of something I haven't tried yet I have to break it open and try at least one.
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#239 Posted: Wed, Mar 6 2024, 7:54 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
it isn't always easy to predict which cigars will get better with age...not all cigars benefit from aging...

as a general rule of thumb, darker and stronger cigars have better aging potential...lighter, milder cigars may not improve with age...cigars with unique and complex flavors that really tickle your palate should prolly be enjoyed sooner...

I have come to regret sitting on some great cigars, thinking they will get better after a few years...I now believe I should smoke the vast majority of great cigars relatively quickly and save only one or two for later...prime examples: Espinosa Laranja Reserva, Tatuaje L'Esprit de Verite 2013. During my buying hiatus, I was able to dig deep into my stash and consume some older cigars. Sure, there were some gems that were surprisingly good, possibly better than my memory of their flavors when fresh, but the majority seemed somewhat subdued, less than what I remember. Keep in mind that the blender and maker of a cigar presents to the market what he/she tasted and believes it to be worthy at that point...they put cigars on the market to be smoked, not to be stored and aged.

there are exceptions: Padrons, many premium Fuentes, the stronger La Flor Dominicana lines, and some darker My Father lines age well



What about Sungrown wrappers? I have some year-old boxes of VSG and AF SG and RSG I was planning to let sit. They taste great now but thought they might get better. What do you think?
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#240 Posted: Wed, Mar 6 2024, 7:58 PM EST
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81054 Rocky Patel Decade from darklord trade. Ok I hate RP as a brand and don't buy them. They're lumped in with Alec Bradley and Gurkha and stuff - a marketing company that sells cigars. But I am LOVING this cigar. Part of me is tempted to buy more. I think I've gotten a few in some samplers, I'll have to try one or two more before I go adding 10 of these to my hoarde but I am really enjoying this one. Started out earthy with some cinnamon, peppery retro. Smoothed out to creamy vanilla caramel and zero bite on retro. It's delightful.
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#241 Posted: Wed, Mar 6 2024, 8:03 PM EST
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PapaWhiskey wrote:
What about Sungrown wrappers? I have some year-old boxes of VSG and AF SG and RSG I was planning to let sit. They taste great now but thought they might get better. What do you think?


Try em. Best way to enjoy a cigar is to smoke it. It's got a year. More time will mellow the stronger parts but it will also lose some of the nuance/subtle flavor. I like af rsg after a year, vsg I like all thr ages.
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#242 Posted: Wed, Mar 6 2024, 8:18 PM EST
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PapaWhiskey wrote:
What about Sungrown wrappers? I have some year-old boxes of VSG and AF SG and RSG I was planning to let sit. They taste great now but thought they might get better. What do you think?



those three specifically, I've found to age decently. I've got a few VSG and RSG that are more than 5 years old, and they are still great smokes. Are they better now? Not sure...but if a cigar maintains its quality over the years, that's a plus.

I suggest smoking one from those boxes every month or so and letting your taste buds tell if they are getting better, staying the same, or diminishing.
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#243 Posted: Wed, Mar 6 2024, 9:41 PM EST
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81055 - Cohiba serie m corona gordo
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#244 Posted: Wed, Mar 6 2024, 10:05 PM EST
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81056 - DE KFC
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#245 Posted: Wed, Mar 6 2024, 10:11 PM EST
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jeebling wrote:
putting the rest in a separate storage to age. I think this is a good strategy to start aging some of my sticks.

You're a level 3 cigar addict now. Congrats Jeebs
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#246 Posted: Wed, Mar 6 2024, 10:45 PM EST
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PapaWhiskey wrote:
Good plan. It wasn't until about a year ago that I started dialing in on what I really like that I started buying boxes of my favorites and shedding cigars that sucked to make room. Some of the early ones made it through like the Cohiba Red and Black from here on cbid but many of the others were given away. Just today I smoked a Hemingway NT and a little later a Cohiba Red both from about a year ago. I had a taste for Cameroon. Both were better than ever.

Not a lot of love for non-Cuban Cohibas here but for me they've been pretty consistently nice burning, tasty cigars. I would never buy them at retail price but you can get them here for 3 or 4 dollars.

I've gotten some really well aged cigars from the guys here that were fantastic! Now stocking my own collection. Whenever I get a box I write the date on the bottom of the box so I have an idea of the vintage later. Someone mentioned that here, it's a good tip. But don't buy boxes until you really know what you like. People say it all the time and I didn't really get it until I got it. At some point it just happens.

Thanks PW, I appreciate your thoughts
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#247 Posted: Wed, Mar 6 2024, 10:46 PM EST
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MidnightToker( • )( • ) wrote:
You're a level 3 cigar addict now. Congrats Jeebs

Beer Thanks Toker lol
jeebling Offline
#248 Posted: Wed, Mar 6 2024, 10:48 PM EST
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danmdevries wrote:
Easiest way to end up with aged cigars is to buy more than you could even think about smoking. I almost ran out last fall and since November I've bought about 700 cigars. I've smoked daily, even up to 4 in a day cause I was excited to try the new things. There are now boxes I've not even opened or tried yet I'm still trying new things most days.

Hey danm, in that case I’m well on my way. Thanks for the tip!
jeebling Offline
#249 Posted: Wed, Mar 6 2024, 10:53 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
it isn't always easy to predict which cigars will get better with age...not all cigars benefit from aging...

as a general rule of thumb, darker and stronger cigars have better aging potential...lighter, milder cigars may not improve with age...cigars with unique and complex flavors that really tickle your palate should prolly be enjoyed sooner...

I have come to regret sitting on some great cigars, thinking they will get better after a few years...I now believe I should smoke the vast majority of great cigars relatively quickly and save only one or two for later...prime examples: Espinosa Laranja Reserva, Tatuaje L'Esprit de Verite 2013. During my buying hiatus, I was able to dig deep into my stash and consume some older cigars. Sure, there were some gems that were surprisingly good, possibly better than my memory of their flavors when fresh, but the majority seemed somewhat subdued, less than what I remember. Keep in mind that the blender and maker of a cigar presents to the market what he/she tasted and believes it to be worthy at that point...they put cigars on the market to be smoked, not to be stored and aged.

there are exceptions: Padrons, many premium Fuentes, the stronger La Flor Dominicana lines, and some darker My Father lines age well


Thank you, Delta. As I thin the stack I’ll go heavy on the connies and lighter colored sticks. I’m in no danger right now of aging a cigar for too long. I’ve got a box of Aging Room Quattro that’s about 5 months old and it’s my oldest. My tastes are changing as I try all the new / different cigars but I’m convinced that I really do like the Aging Room Quattro.
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#250 Posted: Wed, Mar 6 2024, 10:55 PM EST
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81057: La Herencia Cubana Toro 6.5 x 52
Better than the last one out of this 10 pack. I moved it to a lower RH box and 48 hours later I can tell a huge difference in the burn.
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