gringococolo wrote:"with" the federal apparatus. Not for.
Ohhh, yeah that is SUCH a distinction.
You know, if I brazenly put my feet up on my desk and opened up the newspaper while I was on the clock, my a** would be fired. Outright. And yeah, I saw federal workers doing that day in and day out. No reprocussions.
gringococolo wrote:Sorry you are such a slob in the private sector. Sounds like you should get a federal job since everything is so much better than the private sector.
No. I wouldn't be able to put up with the lack of work ethic and the gross incompentence.
I got buddies who also worked with that lovely federal apparatus. They tell me the same thing.
I have relatives that actually work IN the federal government. Same basic stories.
You're either very lucky or completely frickin' blind to not know or see any of this.
gringococolo wrote:And ummm. We temporarily "fired" 10% of the federal workforce, how did that work out.
Really? I personally haven't noticed. At all. Your point being?
Oh, in the private sector, there would be no "temporary." If you got laid off, you got laid off. Period. That "temporary" firing crap only applies to union jobs in auto factories. And nowadays, it is more along the lines of permanent.
So, if you think you're making a point here, you're horribly wrong. And I'm not exactly crying because some people in the federal government got an unpaid vacation. I was there at Ford when the Angel of Death made two passes through that place, and saw all sorts of people get the boot. I saw good people - smart people - take their retirement instead of remaining on because they didn't want to lose their retirement benefits (people who've been there for 30 years and were still under the old pension system). There was nothing "temporary" about it.
But unlike the bloated leviathan that is the federal government, Ford needed to trim down to stay alive, and that's exactly what they did.
What, you want me to cry a tear for those poor federal employees who aren't really going to lose their job? Get a life you twit.
gringococolo wrote:Typical Potts blowhard rhetoric. I could tell you how good the benefits are in my wifes private sector job, they are better than mine, plus I could smoke weed if I wanted too. But why? It really doesn't matter.
Blowhard rhetoric. Nice.
Smoke weed while employed? You're high. Most large employers require a p*ss test before the hire you. A lot of small employers are doing that too. You get caught smoking weed, you're done at most companies.
My health benes are pretty nice too. Best benefits I've ever had. I've worked for a lot of people in the past, not all of them (in fact very few of them) were as good as I have now. That being said, I basically pay for them as a cost of employment. I have no frickin' idea where you get the idea that my employer "pays" for some or all of my health benefits, as they don't - I pay for them. They are what it costs to employ me. And I make a decent chunk of change probably more than 90% of the people that post here. But I guarantee you, I don't make that kind of money sitting around.
Oh yeah, I don't get a pension. Those have basically gone the way of the Dodo bird. You get a 401K, that you pay for out of your salary, and if you're lucky you get a company match. So, in short, not only am I paying for your pension, I'm paying for my retirement too.
gringococolo wrote:Like I said before F%$k off. You call me a lazy POS. Lets compare bodyfat you frickin slob. You call me clueless I call you a whiny little child, that in the land of opportunity in the PRIVATE SECTOR is still sucking hind tit and can't seem to get ahead. Don't blame your failures on others.
Typical entitled child mentality. And yeah, you're clueless.
Did I say that you were personally a lazy slob? No. But hey, if you want to throw in with those same useless slugs that I'm talking about, then be my guest. I dunno, maybe you are a useless slug given they way you're defending those creeps.
The difference between you and I is that I have zero protections on my job. Zip, nada, none. There is no bureaucratic process, no hearings, nothing. I f*ck up, and I'm gone. It's really that simple. I get laid off, no company is going to call me back. Hell, even the unions these days don't get that kind of courtesy nowadays.
And yeah the private sector is sucking the hind t*t. I have no idea who in the hell you think pays your salary, but all of that comes from guys like me, and those evil private sector corporations, and small business owners, and so on. You pay your taxes. Wow! You want a medal for doing that?
If you think that the taxes you pay somehow come close to justifying your salary at whatever bureau you work at, I shudder to think what substandard output you must produce. The government produces nothing. It creates no wealth. It does nothing but consume. And one of the main reasons why the private sector is sucking the hind t*t is because of a massive, bloated federal bureaucracy that limits growth, stalls innovation, and basically destroys business.
It's like you are totally unaware that there is a 16 trillion dollar debt hanging out there, of which your salary and retirement are part responsible in making. Excuse me, but specifically who do you think if going to pay that debt? You and your federal butt-buddies? With what?
Oh, and by the way - not sure if you've figured this out yet - but when it all comes collapsing down, the first thing to go will be federal workers, and those federal pensions. And it will come collapsing down. It is inevitable given the utter cluelessness of people like you. Your p*ssing and moaning about Bush's two unpaid wars and all that liberal claptrap does not excuse that there are thousands of federal workers on the payroll, for decades, that should have never been there in the first place. They are the prime source of waste, abuse, and corruption which has been going on now for decades.
We'll see who is whining in a decade or two when austerity has its time in this country.