frankj1 wrote:local school system had trained police meet with teachers, they could not have stressed enough that causing the shooter to be distracted by any means possible can only help increase the odds of either getting out the classroom or rushing the shooter, or both....
the very best way to cause such a disturbance, per the police "expert", would be to throw things, anything one could get their hands on, in the air and directly at the shooter. Books, chairs, anything at all.
Did not watch link beyond the first minute, but I suppose the rocks are there for that purpose.
here's my post, #38, in response to burner02's question in:
http://www.cigarbid.com/...n-Better-If-They-Werent Burner02 wrote:
Al, still waiting on you answering #96, "Florida School Shooting Timeline."
You not see it?
delta1 wrote:
just looked it up...here it is...
Burner02 wrote:
In this situation that occurred in a school facility you would rather take on a 3" or 3.5" 12 gauge magnum, cylinder bore, and tube extender loaded with 00 rather than a semi auto rifle?
delta1 wrote:
that's a tough one...we trained with Remington 12 gauge shotguns in the academy, and I was crap with them...but they were considered to be the ultimate home defensive weapon according to the instructor/armorer...with 3" or 3.5" magnum loads, phew...deadly and superior stopping power at short distances...
hopefully I will never have to confront either, but since you asked...as with any other emergency, always picture yourself in that scenario and develop a survival plan...
the 12 gauge with a tube extender using 3" rounds would have a max capacity of 8 shots...fewer if using 3.5" mags.
With a typical classroom being roughly 30' x 30', the 00 spray pattern would be 12" max. Reloading the shotgun would take much longer than popping in a magazine in the semi-auto rifle...
Hopefully the shooter isn't as proficient as knokmdown...most aren't...
Survival strategy would be the same for someone with a shotgun or semi-auto rifle...it's best if you can, but if you can't run away or barricade yourself...as a last resort when confronting anybody with a gun, use any distractions (shouting/screaming; throwing available stuff - books, coins, backpacks, purses, chairs at either the shooter or at other objects, hoping he'll expend some ammo shooting at inanimate objects) while taking cover behind anything available... take a peek when there is a pause...
then rush the shooter when his weapon is empty and incapacitate him...get there quickly...
Because of the lower capacity of shots and the longer amount of time reloading a shotgun...I'd rather face that...