cinco(5) vegas A , the larger the ring size the better. Ilove these, and is one cigar i won't share!!Even cheaper is El Mejor Espresso, I like the flavors a lot,cocoa, coffee, and just a hint of wood. The burn is somestimes errant, but if you turn it;it is manageable.I have also read some good things about Victor Sinclair Vintage , its my next buy, as soon as there is room in the humi.