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tegulator
Connoisseur

13 years ago

#41

So do you acknowledge the legitimacy of the links I posted?

How would you explain Black supremacists and "La Raza" type groups who vote Democrat? Are they the liberal version of the Tea Party, or can they not be considered liberal since they are socially conservative? Does the number of racists who vote Democrat cancel out the number of racists in the Tea Party?

P.S. Did your screen name used to be FuzzNJ?

borndead1 wrote:

What the news sources post is all "legitimate," in that they've said it and people believe it. Supporting what you've said with either proper argumentation or data is another story.

I'm not trying to explain or support either the black supremacists or La Raza. I'm talking about the Tea Party. I'm also not trying to justify what the Democrats do, they've got their own set of problems.

Nope, you must have me confused! [gonzo]

borndead1
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#42

What the news sources post is all "legitimate," in that they've said it and people believe it. Supporting what you've said with either proper argumentation or data is another story.

tegulator wrote:

News sources/articles that you post: Legitimate

News sources that others post: Questionable

Got it.

Something interesting I noticed in the article you posted and highlighted portions of.

The words "support for the Tea Party" were used. "Support for" the Tea Party is not the same thing as being an active member of a Tea Party group. I am friends with some people who are in the biggest Tea Party group in CA. They have several Black and Latino members. Recently the group had a discussion on what their "official" position on gay marriage should be. They determined that they should have no official opinion, and that government should stay out of people's marriages.

I'm not necessarily defending the Tea Party. I think too many social conservatives and RINOs have joined their ranks. But, as with all politics, opinions on specific things differ even among groups of "like-minded" people, usually depending on which area of the country they are in. A lot more Arizona residents will have a negative view of illegal immigrants than will residents of, say, New Hampshire.

tegulator
Connoisseur

13 years ago

#43

News sources/articles that you post: Legitimate

News sources that others post: Questionable

Got it.

borndead1 wrote:

No, that's not what I meant. I meant that news agencies that rely off pundit's hunches aren't as reliable as quantifiable data.

Something interesting I noticed in the article you posted and highlighted portions of.

The words "support for the Tea Party" were used. "Support for" the Tea Party is not the same thing as being an active member of a Tea Party group. I am friends with some people who are in the biggest Tea Party group in CA. They have several Black and Latino members. Recently the group had a discussion on what their "official" position on gay marriage should be. They determined that they should have no official opinion, and that government should stay out of people's marriages.

I'm not necessarily defending the Tea Party. I think too many social conservatives and RINOs have joined their ranks. But, as with all politics, opinions on specific things differ even among groups of "like-minded" people, usually depending on which area of the country they are in. A lot more Arizona residents will have a negative view of illegal immigrants than will residents of, say, New Hampshire.

borndead1 wrote:

You're correct that "support" =/= active member, but the study itself found that *mere* "support" of the Tea Party *does* entail a 25% increase in terms of the likelihood of racial resentment. If we took your line of argument to its logical conclusion then that would mean that the probability of racial resentment in the Tea Party's *active members* would be higher than 25%. I know that's not what you mean, though.

I'm sure there are racial minorities in the Tea Party, I never suggested there weren't.

HockeyDad
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#44

It doesn't matter which way the GOP goes.

Democrats and Republicans equally share the blame for creating the Big Government Bubble that is now firmly entrenched. People now completely depend on it so it is not going away. There is not going to be 30 years of austerity to fix the nation. No generation has the fortitude to do it.

When the bubble pops, the USA is done. It will be loud. It will be violent. A few other countries will get taken out in the process. What the USA has going for it is the greatest military on the planet. It will be used to delay the bubble pop at a few other nations expense but it will only delay it.

teedubbya
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#45

In related news the sky is falling.

HockeyDad
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#46

In related news the sky is falling.

teedubbya wrote:

No it is not.

All ponzi schemes must come to an end. The trick is not to be on the last rung of the ladder. For the participants, we need to encourage new members and maybe we can even kept this thing going past our lifetimes.

Personally, I intend to sell fiddles to some and torch & pitchfork sets to others. All major credit cards accepted.

DrMaddVibe
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#47

tegulator wrote:

No...Myself and it appears a few others are catching on.

Get back in the kitchen and bake up some snickerdoodles...finish up the laundy and check back in for that 4 credit per semester whatever degree you're going for Fuzz...leave the "internettin'" to the adults.

tegulator
Connoisseur

13 years ago

#48

We get it, DMV, you're edgy. That doesn't mean you're correct.

Brewha
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#49

Well, it's like in the Army, you know the great Prince issues commands , founds states, vests families with fiefs, inferior people should not be employed.

Buckwheat
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

13 years ago

#50

Well it looks like this post pretty much achieved my goal of getting everyone pissed off with each other. Easier than giving away a full box of aged cuban smokes. But not really as satisfying.

I say "other". I think that now would be a good time to have a return of an old political party. To he l l with #40!

I say get back to TR and the Bull Moose/Progressive Party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Party_(United_States,_1912).

There is a reason that he is on Rushmore. 🇨🇮

HockeyDad
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#51

There will be no new party. The people have spoken and got what they asked for.

DrMaddVibe
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#52

There will be no new party. The people have spoken and got what they asked for.

HockeyDad wrote:

TRUE DAT HOMES!

Obamaphone...he gonna put gas in my car...he gonna pay my mortgage...If I helps him...he's gonna help me...ObamaCare...buy a shotgun...buy a shotgun...dey's gonna put us all BACK in chains!

pdxstogieman
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#53

The GOP will just keep digging the same hole deeper thinking sooner or later they'll come out the other side.

ZRX1200
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#54

PDX do you read alot of "GOP leadership is so great" anywhere? Both partied are phuked, Dems aren't cannibals like Repubs though....

drywalldog
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#55

And the so called third party has two candidates. That idea to split up the rights votes between three factions was brilliant.

HockeyDad
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#56

And the so called third party has two candidates. That idea to split up the rights votes between three factions was brilliant.

drywalldog wrote:

It works perfect. It maintains the status quo.

bloody spaniard
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#57

It works perfect. It maintains the status quo.

HockeyDad wrote:

You say that like it's a bad thing.
Some day we will look back on these days as the good ole days when the economy was much better and our individual rights were sacrosanct.😁

HockeyDad
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#58

You say that like it's a bad thing.
Some day we will look back on these days as the good ole days when the economy was much better and our individual rights were sacrosanct.😁

bloody spaniard wrote:

Without a doubt. Maintaining the status quo guarantees we will one day look back on the USA in this manner.

DrMaddVibe
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#59

There's nothing better than seeing Ft. Riley disappear from view in your mirrors as you head east!

HockeyDad
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#60

There's nothing better than seeing Ft. Riley disappear from view in your mirrors as you head east!

DrMaddVibe wrote:

Except maybe flying over it at 39000 ft!

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