but the recovery began around 2009

frankj1 wrote:

It took years of slow recovery to produce a low unemployment that is a major pull for those with entry level skills. The unemployment rate (the fudged numbers the feds provide that does not include those who gave up looking ) were all above 8% from '09-'12.

deadeyedick wrote:

Illegal immigration may have slowed due to fed regs against our corps forcing companies to move down south.. they didn't have to come here to work.. we delivered jobs to them... 😟

DrafterX wrote:

Illegal immigration may have slowed due to fed regs against our corps forcing companies to move down south.. they didn't have to come here to work.. we delivered jobs to them... 😟

DrafterX wrote:

but the recovery began around 2009

frankj1 wrote:

what regs? the ones saying not to hire illegals?

probably not....I forgot that we don't bother to enforce those...why is it that the illegals are the enemy and not the Americans who employ them? If there wasn't any work for them, we probably wouldn't need a wall, either

dstieger wrote:

Should impose a million dollar fine to any company...ANY company...that uses them.

However; our politicians can't be bothered to craft a single page legislation stating that.

DrMaddVibe wrote:

Oh puhleeze.

The US economy was stagnant then and the Kenyan King's reign and their "revised numbers" proved the economy was in utter shambles. While he was busy bowing and giving money away to "shovel ready" and "green initiatives" (costing the taxpayer even MORE!) and not pursuing Wall Street for their thievery the economy was at best anemic. There was no "recovery".

I suppose using that logic you like to go to a friend's party where you paid for the band, the booze and the gifts and claim you had a good time??? That's what the American taxpayer did. Most of those corporations that got bailouts...still haven't paid them off!

DrMaddVibe wrote:

Politicians will never sign legislation.......where would they find landscapers, nannies, or household staff without that pool of cheap to employ illegals? 🤐

RMAN4443 wrote:

Should impose a million dollar fine to any company...ANY company...that uses them.

However; our politicians can't be bothered to craft a single page legislation stating that.

DrMaddVibe wrote:

nailed it, bruddah.
Cape Cod vacation spots are short again this Summer.
What jobs were the immigrants stealing from us again?

frankj1 wrote:

Stop.
Saying.
That.

It's pure BS.

Less work visas means business owners need to actually LOOK for workers.
They're there.
The employers just don't want to compete (ie pay higher wages)


I hate when the Globe and local TV interviews these shop or restaurant owners.
The owners say they "can't find help".
The reality is the owners see minimum wage workers who are afraid to miss a day. They'll put them on 30 hours weekly to avoid benefits. And they'll hire enough of them to get through the summer.
Meanwhile, able bodied residents can't find 40 hour jobs.
Teens. College kids. Teachers with summers off.

I know that the teens are often unreliable.
But again, that comes down to paying people enough to work.

The increased minimum wage has had a bigger effect on these owners.
Funny that the Globe didn't do an article on that...
(rhetorical)

tailgater wrote:

I had just heard a news report about this within about three hours of my daughter coming home after looking for more hours for the summer.

But I'm glad I didn't disappoint you.

🇨🇮

tailgater wrote:

tough for a rabid partisan to admit, but though the economy did not "recover" in that one, first year (an impossibility btw) it indisputably was vastly improved by all measurements when he left office...and is about the same now too.

E. Warren, that unpopular Senator, spearheaded the Wall Street/financing regulations that are now being totally gutted under your guy. Straining, not draining the swamp.

Giant bailouts under Obama were merely a continuation of Bush's policies. Both take blame to nonpartisan viewers.

frankj1 wrote:

not getting it.
what about wait staff for seasonal restaurants?
Always loved those Irish lasses at the breakfast joint in Wellfleet and the classy Bulgarian waiters at better dinner establishments on The Cape.
Must they get paid minimum or is it still the way I was paid?

frankj1 wrote: