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delta1
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7 years ago

Would switching to an infrastructure building plan from a wall building plan be an acceptable compromise?

Both parties agree that our bridges, highways and dams are in serious need of repair. A comprehensive plan could be less expensive than the wall, employ hundreds of thousands of Americans and boost the economy...

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Phil222
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7 years ago

Nancy’s first order of business was to implement PAYGO. I wonder if she would approve infrastructure spending without cuts to other areas? Or maybe I just don’t understand how PAYGO works.

I’m definitely in favor of infrastructure spending over a wall.

Edited by user 7 years ago | Reason: Not specified

Gene363
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7 years ago

No, wall, fence, barrier, minefield, infrastructure, etc, it does not mater what we call it, but the requirement for the wall is controlling our borders.

Add legislation to levy huge fines on individuals/companies that knowingly hire illegals to fund the border improvement.

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Speyside
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7 years ago

LMAO! Delta, could you dumb it down a bit for those who don't understand what you posted. Nerver mind, you just can't dumb it down enough.

Gene363
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7 years ago

LMAO! Delta, could you dumb it down a bit for those who don't understand what you posted. Nerver mind, you just can't dumb it down enough.

Speyside wrote:

Do you know the definition of, "compromise" hint, it's not substitute.

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Speyside
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7 years ago

Try reading it again. Don't put your spin on it. He clearly states the compromise is infrastucture instead of wall. He also states infrastructure could be less expensive than a wall.

RMAN4443
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7 years ago

Infrastructure is already accounted for from federal taxes, road tolls, and other "fees" such as licensing .....Infrastructure is not Border Security

RMAN4443
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7 years ago

Infrastructure is already accounted for from federal taxes, road tolls, and other "fees" such as licensing .....Infrastructure is not Border Security

ZRX1200
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7 years ago

It’s not worth discussing when the lefts idea of compromise is capitulation by the POTUS.

This is what we get from the left. At some point blood will be on their hands

deadeyedick
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7 years ago

#10

"Civil engineers say fixing infrastructure will take $4.6 trillion" from an article in Newsweek

I don't think Trump's $5.6 B will go quite far enough.

Speyside
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7 years ago

#11

I think Deadeyes number sound about right. Did that include electrical infrastructure?

DrafterX
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7 years ago

#12

I heard Pelosi is suggesting electronic dogs to protect our borders... That can't be cheap... My rocket dogs idea would be better and cheaper... 😟

Gene363
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7 years ago

#13

Try reading it again. Don't put your spin on it. He clearly states the compromise is infrastucture instead of wall. He also states infrastructure could be less expensive than a wall.

Speyside wrote:

Or buying ice cream or not spending the money at all.

Let me lee you out:

Compromise: a settlement of differences by mutual concessions; an agreement reached by adjustment of conflicting or opposing claims, principles, etc., by reciprocal modification of demands."

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MACS
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7 years ago

#14

Why can't we do everything necessary to protect our sovereignty? The wall in San Diego has worked. The numbers prove it. So what if they dig tunnels... they can be called "choke points" and they're much easier to defend than miles and miles of nothing.

victor809
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7 years ago

#15

MACS wrote:

That's a weird stance macs. We "can" do everything necessary to protect our sovereignty. We also "can" do absolutely nothing at all. We "can" do something in the middle. We "can" build a wall. We "can" do some other activities which may be cheaper and more effective than a wall.

You assume in your statement that a "wall" is equal to "everything necessary to protect our sovereignty"... which isn't proven. You also assume that your priorities should be the ones we go with. It's a nation of many ideas. Through our governance we decide which of many priorities we should act on. Some people want a wall. Some people want to spend that money on something else.

You don't get a wall by screaming loudly and shutting down the government.
You get a wall by convincing enough people that a wall has value equal to the cost in $$ and public opinion.

DrafterX
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7 years ago

#16

0.09% of the budget... 😟

victor809
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7 years ago

#17

0.09% of the budget... 😟

DrafterX wrote:

Doesn't matter if it's 0.0001% of the budget.

rfenst
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7 years ago

#18

"Civil engineers say fixing infrastructure will take $4.6 trillion" from an article in Newsweek

I don't think Trump's $5.6 B will go quite far enough.

deadeyedick wrote:

I don't know if $5.6B is even nearly enough. Where are the estimates and studies? Shouldn't those come first before allocating so much? Heard on the news that the majority of Americans don't even want Trump's wall.

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delta1
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7 years ago

#19

I'll take it that cons believe the border security problems outweigh infrastructure problems...preferring to spend money on a wall but ignore potentially deadly infrastructure problems ...like bridge collapses that could kill hundreds...or dam failures that could wipe out whole towns of Americans...

does anybody know the number of people killed due to infrastructure failure compared to those killed by illegal immigrants?

tailgater
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7 years ago

#20

Doesn't matter if it's 0.0001% of the budget.

victor809 wrote:

I agree.
But I feel that way about most of the budget.

Fire half the federal employees.
Abolish public unions.
Eliminate long term social services for all able bodied Americans.
Eliminate all social programs for anyone here illegal. All. Every last scrap.

Put the wall money towards our veterans.

Reduce. Cut. Eliminate. Rinse and repeat.

The last 3 weeks should prove that we can cut our federal workforce in half and not even notice.

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