BuckyB93
3 years ago
Posting this here because it shouldn't be a political thing but a tech thing.

Are EV's and green energy proposals a long term solution? Some say yes, some say no.

Re: EV's

Here's one discussion that says EV's, as we currently have them, are not an answer.

Snippet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XV9ijKAubfU

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Gene363
3 years ago
Good discussion of the big pocture.

Energy is the key, too many fans of EVs fail to consider the big picture. The same is true for hydrogen-powered vehicles.

EV are NOT zero emissions, they never were and will never be zero emissions until we can change the laws of physics.

EVs should be renamed, external combustion vehicles.
clintCigar
3 years ago
I haven't watched your video posts yet but I agree it's NOT the answer. The massive amount of battery disposal that will be required is almost as bad or worse than the fossil fuel carbon emissions imo. I feel like clean burning fuels/gas is a better solution. Like some of the hydrogen vehicles that are available.
HockeyDad
3 years ago
Wrong forum noob.

(Government mandated = political. That’s settled science)
Stogie1020
3 years ago
Part of me feels like this is akin to when we switched from glass bottles to plastic because it required less fuel to transport (among other lesser reasons), so now we have all these single use plastic bottles but we saved fuel in transporting them. Also, "Save the trees" so here is a plastic grocery bag. Woops.
Gene363
3 years ago

Wrong forum noob.

(Government mandated = political. That’s settled science)

HockeyDad wrote:



Never mind the corporate thieves that want taxpayers to pay for their gambling costs. The basic science does not support the mandate change to EVs.
Gene363
3 years ago
The reality of California energy policy;, destroying a repairable nuclear power plant.

Inside the Decommissioning of San Onofre Nuclear Power Station


MACS
3 years ago
When electric motors can move giant ships, airplanes, trains, and tractor trailers... we could start to see a blip. But I read that all the crap we're doing now will "supposedly" only drop the temp in 30 years by 1/100th of a degree.

And while we still need to transport people and goods long distances... and have reliable power for these EV's... the carbon energy infrastructure must remain in place.

Lets not talk about what farming for the lithium does to the planet.
DrafterX
3 years ago
Are we using EVs to farm da chit..?? 😕
BuckyB93
3 years ago
One of the largest dairy farms in MA has an onsite digesting system that composts cow $hit and organic matter. Siphons off the gas, burns it to run a generator to make electricity.

https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/jordan-dairy-farm-rutland-massachusetts-turning-cow-poop-into-power/ [/color][/u]

A good friend of mine is part of this family dairy business. I'm sure there are a lot of similar things across the US. It's not the answer to the problem of global warming but hey, harvesting gasses from cow $hit and other vegetable waste is a no brainier if its economically viable.

With that said, I'm not convinced that there is a realistic man made threat on the global scale for our planet's evolution. This rock we live on has undergone major temperature shifts over and over again well before humans arrived on the scene.

To think that we, the little fleas living on the skin of the Earth, can control the climate or the weather is just plain silly.
DrafterX
3 years ago
AOC is gonna be pissed... 😟
tonygraz
3 years ago
One of our local farms uses methane for fuel. They also have a feed formula that decreases methane production. They also are the manufacturer of cow pots.
Gene363
3 years ago
Burning methane adds to CO2 problems, no credit.
Sunoverbeach
3 years ago
Still voting nuclear. It's only scary in the movies, and during earthquakes/tsunamis
BuckyB93
3 years ago

Burning methane adds to CO2 problems, no credit.

Gene363 wrote:



Sacrilege!
BuckyB93
3 years ago

Still voting nuclear. It's only scary in the movies, and during earthquakes/tsunamis

Sunoverbeach wrote:



You have my vote
frankj1
3 years ago

Still voting nuclear. It's only scary in the movies, and during earthquakes/tsunamis

Sunoverbeach wrote:


ok, but I still won't swim in the ocean off Plymouth...
Sunoverbeach
3 years ago
Me neither, but mostly because the Atlantic is friggin cold up there
frankj1
3 years ago
um, not the beach in Plymouth!
MACS
3 years ago

um, not the beach in Plymouth!

frankj1 wrote:



It's the shaahks, right? Jaws ate people offuh Maatha's Vinyid.

Allegedly.
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