rfenst
2 years ago

Uber trendy influencers like toolin down the road in them. The highest rank you can achieve is the joke on 4 wheels Musk truck. Not only does it cost a lot and is ugly as hell but it proves you dont need a brain or balls to own it!

DrMaddVibe wrote:

To each his own.
rfenst
2 years ago

Tesla tech beloved by investors is being rejected by its biggest fans


Back in March, Tesla and its CEO Elon Musk decided to give owners of compatible vehicles a free month trial of its most controversial software — a driver-assist function called Full Self-Driving.

Though regulators have pointed out that the name of the software is potentially misleading and is linked to a series of serious accidents, the program enacted by Tesla to get more people to try FSD may have not produced the results it wanted.

In a study recently conducted by YipitData and MooMoo technologies, roughly 2% of owners who tried Tesla's Full Self-Driving went on to actually buy the software. In their research, they found that only 3,500 owners tried the service during the month it was first offered and that only 50 actually converted from the free trials into Full Self-Driving purchases or subscriptions within that same period.

It is unclear whether the 3,500 owners represents the full scale of Tesla's 12.3 FSD rollout in the United States, or represents the amount of people who actually took up the offer. In Tesla's Q1 2024 earnings call, Elon Musk revealed that FSD has been pushed to "around 1.8 million vehicles," with "about half" actually using the function.

Tesla has recently reduced the price of the Full Self-Driving feature from $12,000 to $8,000, and lowered its subscription price from $200 to $99; a big ask considering the current implications that the software and its similarly touted Autopilot feature are facing.


The Tesla figurehead has taken to his social media platform X (formerly known as Twitter) to dismantle the claims made by Yipit, claiming that the take rate of FSD is much higher than what they expected.

“I don’t comment on everything, as sometimes I don’t see it and commenting on everything makes it easy to fish for information. The take rate is much higher than 2%. Please,” Musk wrote in his post on X.

There are reasons besides self-promotion for Musk to believe so. Tesla claimed in its Q1 2024 earnings slide deck that its vehicles running its Full Self-Driving software have travelled more than 1.3 billion miles.

Related: Mercedes is pumping the brakes on development of flagship EVs

The revelation about the Full Self-Driving free trial comes as Tesla is facing the ire from regulators, investors and disgruntled owners over the technologies.

On May 15, a federal judge in California rejected a bid from Tesla to dismiss a lawsuit over claims about Full Self-Driving.

As per Reuters, Judge Rita Lin for the United States District Court for the Northern District of California said that owners can "pursue negligence and fraud-based claims, to the extent they relied on Tesla's representations regarding vehicles' hardware and ability to drive coast-to-coast across the U.S."

The original suit, which was first brought in 2022 by California Tesla owner Thomas LoSavio, was made on the basis that he was led to buy a 2017 Tesla Model S equipped with Enhanced Autopilot and Full Self-Driving Capability based off of claims that CEO Elon Musk made about the technologies; which he thought to be a lifesaver in his advanced age and capabilities.


Tesla, which trades under the ticker (TSLA) on the Nasdaq, closed the trading day on May 16 at $174.84, up half a percent.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/other/tesla-tech-beloved-by-investors-is-being-rejected-by-its-biggest-fans/ar-BB1mx4OL?rc=1&ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=2147e9ceed684c24be4294bc947f749e&ei=25 


MooMoo is kewlkewl for those who drooldrool. Its high tech dammmit!!!! Suppose Musk will just be giving away cars to make sure everyone gets a rebate!

DrMaddVibe wrote:


DrMaddVibe
2 years ago

To each his own.

rfenst wrote:



Well, I kinda like my brain. Wife likes my balls.
Brewha
2 years ago

It seems clear as a bell that EV'S are not ready for the general public.

Speyside2 wrote:


Correction, the American public is not ready for EV's.
Not true in other countries.
Abrignac
2 years ago

Correction, the American public is not ready for EV's.
Not true in other countries.

Brewha wrote:



That’s because unlike these inhabitants of other countries we as a whole don’t want to overpay for transportation which falls woefully short of our current options.
DrMaddVibe
2 years ago

Correction, the American public is not ready for EV's.
Not true in other countries.

Brewha wrote:











WRONG!














All one has to do is read the links to articles in the last 2 pages to see where the EU is backing waaaaay off on the EV as we in the US are. You don't have to show everyone how stupid you are.
Brewha
2 years ago

That’s because unlike these inhabitants of other countries we as a whole don’t want to overpay for transportation which falls woefully short of our current options.

Abrignac wrote:


On a per capita basis the leaders in EV owership are:

1. Norway - 117 per 1,000 people
2. Iceland - 69
3. Sweden - 29
4. Califoirnia - 27
5. Netherlands - 21

:-k

But by far the Chinese buy the most EVs.



So people in China and Norway "want to overpay" ???
"woefully short"?? 😂
Brewha
2 years ago



All one has to do is read the links to articles in the last 2 pages to see where the EU is backing waaaaay off on the EV as we in the US are. You don't have to show everyone how stupid you are.

DrMaddVibe wrote:



You mean the rate of EV adoption is not accelerating as it did last year - right?
DrMaddVibe
2 years ago

You mean the rate of EV adoption is not accelerating as it did last year - right?

Brewha wrote:



Click the links.

The pics and charts aren't lying.
Brewha
2 years ago
"Sales Figures Speak Volumes
In March, sales of hybrid vehicles in Europe increased by nearly 13%, raising their market share from 24.4% to 29%.

Concurrently, electric vehicles saw a 5% decrease in the number of new registrations compared to the previous year, according to figures from the industry association Acea.

"This trend is unmistakable and reflects a broader movement towards hybrid technology across the continent," comments an analyst from Acea."



A 5% decrease in sales - wow someone should tell china that the sky is falling....
Brewha
2 years ago

Well, I kinda like my brain. Wife likes my balls.

DrMaddVibe wrote:



Is that why she keeps them in her purse?














Ok - I should not have said that.
It was rude of me.

But you have been a rude little prick, haven't you?

Still - my bad.
DrMaddVibe
2 years ago

"Sales Figures Speak Volumes
In March, sales of hybrid vehicles in Europe increased by nearly 13%, raising their market share from 24.4% to 29%.

Concurrently, electric vehicles saw a 5% decrease in the number of new registrations compared to the previous year, according to figures from the industry association Acea.

"This trend is unmistakable and reflects a broader movement towards hybrid technology across the continent," comments an analyst from Acea."



A 5% decrease in sales - wow someone should tell china that the sky is falling....

Brewha wrote:



Yeah, someone should because their entire economy is propped up on faulty GDP. Ghost towns built for 100,000+ in the middle of nowhere...EV's parked all over the EU in lots nobody wants...a dwindling population with forced labor camps to manufacture whatever the party tells them to...and a silk road initiative that makes those seedy check loan places look legit with their interest rates. I don't think you want to chase the CCP as some stellar example of anything anyone with a brain wants to follow.
DrMaddVibe
2 years ago

Is that why she keeps them in her purse?














Ok - I should not have said that.
It was rude of me.

But you have been a rude little prick, haven't you?

Still - my bad.

Brewha wrote:




No, the balls are still attached to me. She gets to play with them.

Nothing is stopping you from being a 1st class rude jerk. No, I haven't been rude at all. I've used proper English the entire time with links to back up the POV I'm making. Its not my fault you want to remain ignorant.

Whatever, thanks for showing everyone what a jerk looks like.
Abrignac
2 years ago

On a per capita basis the leaders in EV owership are:

1. Norway - 117 per 1,000 people
2. Iceland - 69
3. Sweden - 29
4. Califoirnia - 27
5. Netherlands - 21

:-k

But by far the Chinese buy the most EVs.



So people in China and Norway "want to overpay" ???
"woefully short"?? 😂

Brewha wrote:



Thanks for proving me correct
HockeyDad
2 years ago
May 14 (Reuters) - Tesla (TSLA.O), has been sued by an environmental nonprofit that accused Elon Musk's electric car company of violating the federal Clean Air Act hundreds of times by letting its Fremont, California, plant emit harmful pollutants.

In a complaint filed on Monday, the Environmental Democracy Project said Tesla has since January 2021 exposed nearby residents and workers to excessive nitrogen oxides, arsenic, cadmium and other harmful chemicals, mainly through its paint shop operations.

The nonprofit wants an injunction to halt excess pollution, plus civil fines of up to $121,275 per day per violation of the Clean Air Act.

Tesla did not immediately respond on Tuesday to requests for comment.

The lawsuit filed federal court in San Francisco adds to pressure on Tesla to improve air quality surrounding the Fremont plant, its main U.S. factory.

On May 2, the Bay Area Air Quality Management District said it wanted an independent hearing board to order Tesla to reduce harmful emissions from its paint shop operations.
Brewha
2 years ago
Meanwhile;
America considers whether or not to give the future automobile market to the Chinese.

Chinese car maker BYD introduces a $12,000 car - and it is nicer and scarier than you think.
https://apnews.com/article/china-byd-auto-seagull-auto-ev-cae20c92432b74e95c234d93ec1df400 

US government moves to keep the new high tech out with tariffs - a stop gap move:
https://apnews.com/article/biden-china-tariffs-electric-vehicles-evs-solar-2024ba735c47e04a50898a88425c5e2c 

Once in production EVs should be far cheaper than ICE cars. But companies like Ford show us how legacy companies don't know how and are locked into doing it the old way, with the old vendors and the old tech. So they lose money.

BYD is subsidised by the Chinese government - which is wise. But Americans would cry a river about us doing that.

American's strategy is to hope the new tech just goes away. And push the idea that it is not real, doesn't work and is "bad".
"You know that them EV's kill Bald Eagles - right?"

But, the world will be getting cars that cost half as much to buy, own and operate. And Americans will deny it until their only move left is to call for a war on China.

"America - F*ck Yeah!"
Abrignac
2 years ago

Meanwhile;
America considers whether or not to give the future automobile market to the Chinese.

Chinese car maker BYD introduces a $12,000 car - and it is nicer and scarier than you think.
https://apnews.com/article/china-byd-auto-seagull-auto-ev-cae20c92432b74e95c234d93ec1df400 

US government moves to keep the new high tech out with tariffs - a stop gap move:
https://apnews.com/article/biden-china-tariffs-electric-vehicles-evs-solar-2024ba735c47e04a50898a88425c5e2c 

Once in production EVs should be far cheaper than ICE cars. But companies like Ford show us how legacy companies don't know how and are locked into doing it the old way, with the old vendors and the old tech. So they lose money.

BYD is subsidised by the Chinese government - which is wise. But Americans would cry a river about us doing that.

American's strategy is to hope the new tech just goes away. And push the idea that it is not real, doesn't work and is "bad".
"You know that them EV's kill Bald Eagles - right?"

But, the world will be getting cars that cost half as much to buy, own and operate. And Americans will deny it until their only move left is to call for a war on China.

"America - F*ck Yeah!"

Brewha wrote:



For such a well educated person you are truly dumb.
Brewha
2 years ago

For such a well educated person you are truly dumb.

Abrignac wrote:



"the fool is the twin of the wise"

Noted that rather than discuss or trade opinions you name call - Always reminds me of middle school.
Abrignac
2 years ago

"the fool is the twin of the wise"

Noted that rather than discuss or trade opinions you name call - Always reminds me of middle school.

Brewha wrote:




Hold that thought. Unlike when I had to dumb down the reasoning why it was unwise for a police officer shoot to kill verses shot to wound this will take a bit more time.

As far as a discussion without name calling, for every thread you cite where you were nothing but civil I can cite at least a dozen where you made backhanded comments directed at those with a different opinion than your own.
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