From 1998 to 2015….that is 17 years but they found 21 trillion….that is over a trillion per year when the budget wasn’t even a trillion. Neat trick.

Musk is a big military contractor? How? Camouflaged cybertrucks?

Maybe dig into the claims before accepting as fact! I know, Orange Man Bad.

HockeyDad wrote:

SpaceX has been awarded nearly $2 billion worth of classified contracts by DoD.

drglnc wrote:

Sound like Orange Man Bad and Tesla Man Bad!

HockeyDad wrote:

From 1998 to 2015….that is 17 years but they found 21 trillion….that is over a trillion per year when the budget wasn’t even a trillion. Neat trick.

Musk is a big military contractor? How? Camouflaged cybertrucks?

Maybe dig into the claims before accepting as fact! I know, Orange Man Bad.

HockeyDad wrote:

HD,
You are half pregnant again.

You can't choose between Trump- who is racking up more debt, or Elon, the guy that wants to make more and deeper cuts.

A real Sophie's Choice you have on your hands. Thought you'd go Team Elon as he is more likely to get us out of the Death Loop/Spiral you often spout about.

You should really get back to the Global Domination schtict. Your Neo-Con heart craves it.

8trackdisco wrote:

this was the writer's statement, I have not posted anything other than that, so before you again post my opinions for me to win an imagined prize on a discount cigar board discussion, read closer...

The Pentagon: "1998 to 2015, there were $21 trillion of unaccounted-for financial adjustments on the Pentagon’s books."

not the way you interpreted the wording.

As for Musk, did you forget space programs?

frankj1 wrote:

So what did the wording mean? Can you explain the outrage?


“SpaceX has been awarded nearly $2 billion…”. That sounds like space programs. The giveaway was “SpaceX” hidden in plain sight.

HockeyDad wrote:

Eliminating steeling and waste is not "cuts".

Gene363 wrote:

Half pregnant is a Democrat construct like men being pregnant.

Elon is right about needing more cuts. It’s just not going to happen. The doom loop continues.

Do you actually see any way out of $37 trillion in debt?

HockeyDad wrote:

you just posted the point of the letter to the editor!

Without a Musk conflict of interest, the much needed shavings could have started and ended with the Pentagon's self published books showing trillions and trillions of "unaccounted for financial adjustments"...


even if you can correctly show the numbers are off somewhat (as expected) wouldn't you start at the real savings in the biggest sink hole of the entire budget?

Why would you appoint a contractor to find the waste if he is paid by the biggest culprit?

Good idea, turned into reality tv, the Specialty of the (White) House?

frankj1 wrote:

The Pentagon is always under scrutiny for money mismanagement and that needs to continue. Shavings starting and ending with the Pentagon is not going to cut it. If you eliminate the military you are still running over a trillion in debt per year. You have to look at everything including social security and Medicare/Medicaid.

HockeyDad wrote:

You have to look at everything including social security and Medicare/Medicaid.

HockeyDad wrote:

true, it's so much easier to cut back on the neediest cuz their whimpering can't be heard.
They prolly mismanage their money almost as much as the Pentagon.

frankj1 wrote:

true, it's so much easier to cut back on the neediest cuz their whimpering can't be heard.
They prolly mismanage their money almost as much as the Pentagon.

frankj1 wrote:

I don’t see a way through. Like you’ve said before we’re fond of saying for years, people don’t want problems or be concerned with making tough decisions. They want something shiny to distract them.

Trump rerunning was the shiny thing. A plurality of people got him into power. About a third of them, full on MAGA disciples seemed to think just making him president was going to solve their problems. He wins, he’ll make American great again, and it will be a land of milk and honey with a solved immigration problem. As if he can defy economic gravity. Now the gravity of this is coming home.

Full MAGA didn’t (or chose not to see) the deficit grew more under Trump than Biden. Willful Blindness.

He’s just heaping more debt onto the country. He’ll be dead before the collapse, and his family is well taken care of.

The other 89.2% of us are screwed.

8trackdisco wrote:

Now we agree. We are screwed. Strive to be in the 10.8% and hope we don’t get eaten.

Republicans think we can cut taxes and encourage growth and then we grow our way out.
Democrats think we can raise taxes and tax our way out. Imagine when you start pulling money out of your 401K and find out you’re in a 40% tax bracket!
Elon thinks we can cut spending and get our way out.

Eventually we will pay off the debt with a debased currency worth 25 cents on the dollar.

HockeyDad wrote:

That played out... overturned. You can't see the difference, that's your issue...

Are we now seeing those cases crumble? Yeeeeaaahhhh... Fani got caught. She's in trouble. Leticia got caught. She's in trouble. The judge's daughter benefited from the case... he might be in trouble, too. The judge's actions during the case, in his instructions to the jury... don't pass muster, or appeal.

Now... let an actual AG ONLY bring cases that have sufficient (non made-up) evidence, and let's see where it goes.

MACS wrote:

Lockheed Martin got $64 billion.
Raytheon got $40 billion.
Northrop Grumman got $35 billion.
General Dynamics got $33 billion.
Boeing got $32 billion.

You would need $5.7 billion to crack the top 10 and those numbers are just for 2024!

Sound like Orange Man Bad and Tesla Man Bad!

HockeyDad wrote:

If, and I mean IF..... taxes could be raised on the "Rich". What do you believe that would look like?

What would congress approve and Trump would sign?

8trackdisco wrote: