RICKAMAVEN
23 years ago
Here are the young men from Midland, Texas, (Bush's hometown) who died in Vietnam in place of George W. Bush, as he stayed in Texas afraid to go to war:

(1) LASTNAME: CUTBIRTH FIRSTNAME: KENDELL DWAYNE IDNO: 1912851 SVC: M COMP: R RANK: SSG GRADE: E6 MOS: 0369 AGE: 23 HOME: MIDLAND ST: TX CASDATE: 19670225 CAS1: A1 CAS2: G CAS3: 7 BODY: --- CTRY: VS PROV: 01 LSVC: 06 BIRDATE: 19430429 RACE: C REL: PN MAR: M SEX: M CIT: 1 TOURD: ------ PANL: 15E LINE: 089 REFNO: 2287 PDATE: 6702

(2) LASTNAME: DYER FIRSTNAME: IRBY III IDNO: 458709452 SVC: A COMP: R RANK: SGT GRADE: E5 MOS: 91B40 AGE: 23 HOME: MIDLAND ST: TX CASDATE: 19661202 CAS1: A3 CAS2: B CAS3: 6 BODY: BNR CTRY: LA PROV: LZ LSVC: ** BIRDATE: 19430612 RACE: C REL: 99 MAR: M SEX: M CIT: 1 TOURD: 661202 PANL: 13E LINE: 004 REFNO: 133 PDATE: 6701

(3) LASTNAME: GUERRERO FIRSTNAME: ANDREW CASTRO IDNO: 449984505 SVC: A COMP: R RANK: CPL PP: + GRADE: E3 MOS: 11B10 AGE: 19 HOME: MIDLAND ST: TX CASDATE: 19701217 CAS1: A1 CAS2: D CAS3: 7 BODY: --- CTRY: VS PROV: 02 LSVC: ** BIRDATE: 19510516 RACE: C REL: RC MAR: S SEX: M CIT: 1 TOURD: 700619 PANL: 06W LINE: 127 REFNO: 28717 PDATE: 7012

(4) LASTNAME: HALL FIRSTNAME: BRUCE IDNO: 18742754 SVC: A COMP: R RANK: SP4 GRADE: E4 MOS: 11B2P AGE: 19 HOME: MIDLAND ST: TX CASDATE: 19671227 CAS1: A1 CAS2: D CAS3: 7 BODY: --- CTRY: VS PROV: 09 LSVC: 02 BIRDATE: 19480516 RACE: C REL: BO MAR: S SEX: M CIT: 1 TOURD: 671003 PANL: 32E LINE: 072 REFNO: 9539 PDATE: 6712

(5) LASTNAME: HODGES FIRSTNAME: RUFUS WELDON IDNO: 54388226 SVC: A COMP: R RANK: SP4 GRADE: E4 MOS: 67V20 AGE: 21 HOME: MIDLAND ST: TX CASDATE: 19690117 CAS1: C1 CAS2: B CAS3: 6 BODY: --- CTRY: VS PROV: 26 LSVC: 01 BIRDATE: 19471017 RACE: C REL: BO MAR: M SEX: M CIT: 1 TOURD: 680518 PANL: 34W LINE: 024 REFNO: 3232 PDATE: 6901

(6) LASTNAME: HOLLEY FIRSTNAME: GLYNN BYRON IDNO: 566821922 SVC: F COMP: R RANK: A1C GRADE: E3 MOS: ----- AGE: 20 HOME: MIDLAND ST: TX CASDATE: 19691226 CAS1: C2 CAS2: L CAS3: 7 BODY: --- CTRY: VS PROV: 11 LSVC: 01 BIRDATE: 19490527 RACE: C REL: CC MAR: S SEX: M CIT: 1 TOURD: 691206 PANL: 15W LINE: 093 REFNO: 427 PDATE: 6912

(7) LASTNAME: LOPEZ FIRSTNAME: PAULINO GUTIERREZ IDNO: 54382708 SVC: A COMP: Y RANK: PFC GRADE: E3 MOS: 11B10 AGE: 23 HOME: MIDLAND ST: TX CASDATE: 19670722 CAS1: A2 CAS2: D CAS3: 7 BODY: --- CTRY: VS PROV: 25 LSVC: ** BIRDATE: 19440622 RACE: C REL: RC MAR: M SEX: M CIT: 1 TOURD: 670501 PANL: 23E LINE: 106 REFNO: 7260 PDATE: 6707

(8) LASTNAME: MC KINNEY FIRSTNAME: CECIL CURTIS IDNO: 18728047 SVC: A COMP: R RANK: SP5 GRADE: E5 MOS: 91B2P AGE: 22 HOME: MIDLAND ST: TX CASDATE: 19681005 CAS1: A1 CAS2: I CAS3: 7 BODY: --- CTRY: VS PROV: 02 LSVC: 02 BIRDATE: 19460926 RACE: C REL: BO MAR: S SEX: M CIT: 1 TOURD: 670520 PANL: 41W LINE: 014 REFNO: 17621 PDATE: 6810

(9) LASTNAME: NIEDECKEN FIRSTNAME: RAYMOND ALVIS IDNO: 2353821 SVC: M COMP: R RANK: PFC GRADE: E2 MOS: 0311 AGE: 20 HOME: MIDLAND ST: TX CASDATE: 19671228 CAS1: A1 CAS2: D CAS3: 7 BODY: --- CTRY: VS PROV: 03 LSVC: 00 BIRDATE: 19470812 RACE: C REL: PN MAR: S SEX: M CIT: 1 TOURD: 671117 PANL: 32E LINE: 088 REFNO: 5441 PDATE: 6712

(10) LASTNAME: SATTERFIELD FIRSTNAME: HOWARD EUGENE IDNO: 525660321 SVC: A COMP: R RANK: SP5 GRADE: E5 MOS: 94B20 AGE: 37 HOME: MIDLAND ST: TX CASDATE: 19700829 CAS1: C2 CAS2: U CAS3: 7 BODY: --- CTRY: VS PROV: 02 LSVC: ** BIRDATE: 19320909 RACE: C REL: 99 MAR: S SEX: M CIT: 1 TOURD: 700219 PANL: 07W LINE: 023 REFNO: 5556 PDATE: 7008

(11) LASTNAME: SEGOVIA FIRSTNAME: RAUL LERMA IDNO: 54388602 SVC: A COMP: Y RANK: SP4 GRADE: E4 MOS: 11B20 AGE: 20 HOME: MIDLAND ST: TX CASDATE: 19690130 CAS1: C1 CAS2: V CAS3: 7 BODY: --- CTRY: VS PROV: 07 LSVC: 00 BIRDATE: 19480330 RACE: C REL: RC MAR: S SEX: M CIT: 1 TOURD: 680909 PANL: 33W LINE: 022 REFNO: 3271 PDATE: 6901

(12) LASTNAME: SIMMONS FIRSTNAME: TRAVIS A JR IDNO: 7715206 SVC: N COMP: V RANK: HM3 GRADE: E4 MOS: HM3 AGE: 23 HOME: MIDLAND ST: TX CASDATE: 19670316 CAS1: A1 CAS2: D CAS3: 7 BODY: --- CTRY: VS PROV: 05 LSVC: 02 BIRDATE: 19430827 RACE: C REL: PN MAR: S SEX: M CIT: 1 TOURD: ------ PANL: 16E LINE: 098 REFNO: 240 PDATE: 6703

(13) LASTNAME: STALL FIRSTNAME: WILLIAM ROBB IDNO: 2303522 SVC: M COMP: R RANK: LCPL GRADE: E3 MOS: 0846 AGE: 20 HOME: MIDLAND ST: TX CASDATE: 19680118 CAS1: A1 CAS2: G CAS3: 7 BODY: --- CTRY: VS PROV: 01 LSVC: 00 BIRDATE: 19470214 RACE: C REL: PN MAR: M SEX: M CIT: 1 TOURD: 670922 PANL: 34E LINE: 071 REFNO: 5613 PDATE: 6801

(14) LASTNAME: TAYLOR FIRSTNAME: SELVWYN RISHER IDNO: W3161245 SVC: A COMP: V RANK: WO GRADE: W1 MOS: 061B AGE: 31 HOME: MIDLAND ST: TX CASDATE: 19690316 CAS1: C1 CAS2: B CAS3: 1 BODY: --- CTRY: VS PROV: 30 LSVC: 12 BIRDATE: 19371218 RACE: C REL: RC MAR: M SEX: M CIT: 1 TOURD: 680819 PANL: 29W LINE: 056 REFNO: 3435 PDATE: 6903

(15) LASTNAME: WATSON FIRSTNAME: GARY EUGENE IDNO: 54387872 SVC: A COMP: Y RANK: SP4 GRADE: E4 MOS: 11B20 AGE: 24 HOME: MIDLAND ST: TX CASDATE: 19680403 CAS1: A1 CAS2: H CAS3: 7 BODY: --- CTRY: VS PROV: 06 LSVC: 01 BIRDATE: 19440318 RACE: C REL: CC MAR: S SEX: M CIT: 1 TOURD: 670725 PANL: 47E LINE: 057 REFNO: 12830 PDATE: 6804

(16) LASTNAME: ZONNE FIRSTNAME: ROBERT JOHN JR IDNO: 462620728 SVC: A COMP: R RANK: CPT GRADE: O3 MOS: 0200 AGE: 27 HOME: MIDLAND ST: TX CASDATE: 19700420 CAS1: C1 CAS2: B CAS3: 6 BODY: --- CTRY: VS PROV: 25 LSVC: 04 BIRDATE: 19420528 RACE: C REL: EP MAR: M SEX: M CIT: 1 TOURD: 690718 PANL: 11W LINE: 029 REFNO: 5085 PDATE: 7004
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Robby
23 years ago
Didn't he serve in the guard?
Robby
23 years ago
What branch did Clinton serve in?
RICKAMAVEN
23 years ago
question #1: except when he was awol and only in the usa. his mommy and daddy wouldn't lt him cross the ocean.
Slimboli
23 years ago
Robby --- just curious ... what branch did you serve in?
RICKAMAVEN
23 years ago
question #2:

the same one that reagan served in and the same one the following served in


Name Employer Year Born Relevant Conflict Avoided
Lame
Excuse Preferred
Activity
Bush, George W Citizenry 1946 Vietnam A.W.O.L.
Cheney, ****** Citizenry 1941 Vietnam "had other priorities"




BARKING HEAD BRIGADE
Name Employer Year
Born Relevant
Conflict
Avoided Lame
Excuse Preferred
Activity
Hume, Brit Faux TV 1943 Vietnam
Keyes, Alan Faux TV 1950 Vietnam Harvard
Limbaugh, David Radio? 1952 Vietnam National Guard
Limbaugh, Rush Radio 1951 Vietnam anal cysts
Reagan, Michael Radio? unk Vietnam



THE BUREAUCRATIC BATTALION
Name Position Year
Born Relevant
Conflict
Avoided Lame
Excuse Preferred
Activity
Abraham, Spencer Energy Sec. 1952 Vietnam Harvard Law
Abrams, Elliott State Dept. 1948 Vietnam bad back college, grad school
Adelman, Ken Bureaucrat unk Vietnam skin rash
Bolton, John State Dept. 1948 Vietnam
Card, Andrew High-Level Flunky 1947 Vietnam
Evans, Don Commerce Sec. 1946 Vietnam Sigma Alpha Epsilon
Hutchinson, Asa Drug Tsar 1950 Vietnam
Perle, Richard Bureaucrat 1941+C59 Vietnam
Pitt, Harvey Bureaucrat unk Vietnam Law school
Stockman, David Budget-Boy 1946 Vietnam
Thompson, Tommy Bureaucrat 1947 Vietnam National Guard
Walters, John Drug Tsar unk Vietnam
Wolfowitz, Paul Bureaucrat unk Vietnam




JAG
Name Position Year
Born Relevant
Conflict
Avoided Lame
Excuse Preferred
Activity
Ashcroft, John "Justice" 1942 Vietnam teaching business ed
Kennedy, Arthur Judge of sorts 1936 Vietnam lawyering
Olson, Ted Solicitor General unk Vietnam
Scalia, Antonin Associate Justice Vietnam
Starr, Ken Persecutor 1947 Vietnam psoriasis
Thomas, Clarence Tool 1948 Vietnam




THE POLITICIANS PLATOON
Name Franchise Year
Born Relevant
Conflict
Avoided Lame
Excuse Preferred
Activity
Alexandar, Lamar ex-Gov. (Tenn.) Vietnam
Barr, Bob US House (R-Ga.) 1948 Vietnam
Bartlett, Roscoe US House (R-MD) 1926 WWII
Bauer, Gary None 1946 Vietnam
Blunt, Roy US House (R-Mo.) 1950 Vietnam
Bush, Jeb Gov. - Fla. 1953 Vietnam
Chambliss, Saxby US House (R-Ga.) 1943 Vietnam bad knees running
Craig, Larry Senator (R-Idaho) 1945 Vietnam
DeLay, Tom US House (R-Tex) 1947 Vietnam attended grad school
Engler, John Gov. - Mich. 1948 Vietnam "too fat," by 8 lbs.
Gingrich, Newt ex-US House (R-Ga.) 1943 Vietnam attended grad school
Giuliani, Rudy ex-Mayor, NYC 1944 Vietnam
Gramm, Phil Senate (R-Tex.) 1942 Vietnam marriage deferment
Hastert, Dennis US House (R-Ill.) 1942 Vietnam bad knees wrestling coach (huh?)
Hutchinson, Tim Senate (R-Ark.) 1949 Vietnam
Keating, Frank Gov. - Okla. 1944 Vietnam
Kemp, Jack ex-US House (R-NY) 1935 Vietnam bum knee football
Lieberman, Joe Senate (Conn.) 1942 Vietnam
Lott, Trent Senate (R-Miss.) 1941 Vietnam cheerleader
McConnell, Mitch Senator (R-Ky.) 1942 Vietnam lawyering
Meyers, Herbert House Candidate, Wash. 1943/46 Vietnam
Nickles, Don Senator (R-Okla.) 1948 Vietnam cushy Guard slot
Quayle, Dan Veep 1947 Vietnam National Guard
Reagan, Ronald Prez 1911 WWII Hollywood
Romney, Mitt None yet 1947 Vietnam BYU
Shelby, Richard Senator (R-Ala.) 1934 Vietnam
Souder, Mark US House (R-IN) 1050 Vietnam
Stone, Roger Consultant 1952± Vietnam
Weber, Vin Politician 1952 Vietnam
Weld, William ex-Gov. - Mass. 1945 Vietnam




THE PROPAGANDA PLATOON
Name Employer Year
Born Relevant
Conflict
Avoided Lame
Excuse Preferred
Activity
Adelman, Ken Right-Wing Conspiracy unk Vietnam?
Ailes, Roger Faux TV 1940 Vietnam
Bartley, Robert Wall St. unk Korea?
Blitzer, Wolf CNN 1948 Vietnam
Boortz, Neal Syndic. 1945 Vietnam
Clancy, Tom Self-Amused ? Vietnam
Coulter, Ann Right-Wing Conspiracy unk Desert Storm
Doocy, Steve Faux-TV unk Desert Storm
Feder, Don Syndic. unk Vietnam law school
Forbes, Steve News Baron 1947 Vietnam
Gottlieb, Alan Syndic. unk Vietnam National Guard
Greenwood, Lee Record racket unk Vietnam
Hannity, Sean Faux TV unk post-Vietnam
Harvey, Paul ? 1918 WWII
Kilmeade, Brian Faux-TV unk Desert Storm
Kristol, William Vanity Press unk Vietnam
Ledeen, Michael Think Tank Commando unk Vietnam
Medved, Michael ? 1948 Vietnam taught 3rd grade
McRaney, Gerald Hollywood 1947 Vietnam
Olasky, Marvin U-Texas J-School 1950± Vietnam
O'Reilly, Bill Faux TV 1949 Vietnam
O'Rourke, P.J. Self-Amused 1947 Vietnam
Savage, Michael Radio unk Vietnam
Snow, Tony Faux TV unk Vietnam
Stallone, Sylvester La-La Land 1946 Vietnam private girls school
Stein, Ben Comedy Channel 1944 Vietnam attended law school
Tyrrell, R. Emmett Propagandist unk Vietnam
Wayne, John Propagandist 1907 WWII
Will, George Propagandist 1941 Vietnam Divinity School




rayder1
23 years ago
Have you ever worked for the Globe or the Enquirer or the Star?

They could sure use those.
Robby
23 years ago
I aint running the ****ry slim.
Robby
23 years ago
let's not forget Max "whoops! I blew my own legs off with a grennade" Clealand... (Democrat) probably not the only thing he's every had go off prematurely.

Rick, brevity is the soul of witt. I can't read you're posts. You post is too long! (softball).
Slimboli
23 years ago
Sorry Robby ... I didn't know that serving in the military was a prerequisite for 'running the country' ... 😉
Charlie
23 years ago
I served in the USNavy, and I think Rick is full of crap!

Charlie
tarheel4lyf
23 years ago
I currently SERVE in the US Navy, and I like GWB
penzt8
23 years ago
Just wait until the first woman is elected president. Will this no longer be an issue? No draft dodging women!! I think it's an irrelevent issue. One doesn't need to have served in order to be CINC. and truthfully, I think I'd prefer one that didn't. At least then they might let the generals decide on the strategy and tactics and not try to micro manage the military (especially during war) And yes I did serve 20 years 11 months and 15 days.
usahog
23 years ago
Rick... thats a cool pic of GWB...To Bad there isn't cigar box's stuffed under his Arms!!!!

Ever wonder why Clinton never visited the Troops?

I Served in the Air National Guard... Wait I still do.. Doh!!!!! but I missed out on Vietnam.. except for my Family members who served then... I was still ****tin Green!!!!! I like GWB Voliteered for the Gulf War... but never was called to go... did many trips to the Gulf Region and other places... did a stent with Operation Enduring Freedom But missed the Calling on Iraqi Freedom... Waiting to see If I'll be called for the Syrian Slam Down... or maybe the North Korean Nutron Blast "see they may have a Nuke but they don't have the latest Nuke, and I think they keep playing games they'll get one of them...Courtisy of the Red White and Blue" There's many many Korean Vets, if you ask them, will say Give them one of those!!!!!

Fuggit I think I'll run for President or maybe VP and the Wife can run for Pres!!!! LMAO!!!!!

Hog
Robby
23 years ago
Slim, the pres is the commander in chief. He has much more control over the military and foreign policy than the domestic agenda. That's ruled by congress.
Robby
23 years ago
not a requirement, but it does help.
RICKAMAVEN
23 years ago
Robby

do you know what a freudian slip is?

i believe it is spelled country.
RICKAMAVEN
23 years ago
rayder1

directed to me? if so, those what?
RICKAMAVEN
23 years ago
Robby

posts too long? what is your attention span? just scan it and you will get the idea or read it without moving your lips, it will read faster.
RICKAMAVEN
23 years ago
Charlie

i never disrespect your opinion.
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