It'a about FREAKIN' time some started asking... : )

if it's just hypothetical, then it's not really a trade - more like you're listing your 10 best domestics...sounds like C&R...

Smelly, don't let these old farts get you down. Those were great sticks you sent. And if people continue to be an ass about it, then f#ck em. You can send that package to me anytime.

choner

His "f'in" package isn't even here yet. It won't matter anyways.....he wants whatever he sent me back. I got burned, but my skin is tougher than to walk away from these fine boards. I just have no respect for shi**y manners, and what Ropeman obviously doesn't understand is there is WAY MORE that goes into gifting and trading than some measley sticks of tobacco. Respect, friendship, and a little bit of fun. NOT a middle-finger to my face as soon as I wake up.

I will post what he sent, if it ever arrives....and I really don't care who wins, cause I know I just have to blow another 30 bucks sending those f'in cigars back to him. I learned an extremely valuable lesson of who, and what I consider a BOTL, and I will just go back to trading with appreciative people.

A Bad Day!

Dave

Smelly... take a deep breath and calm down...

There, feel better...

First off, I said it was a good package.

Perhaps I should have waited for you to respond before I posted anything. I apologize for that.

Ropeman's description of the cigars could have been better(ie: Shark, Centurian, WOAM, 858 SG). They are harder to get cigars, I agree, but they are gettable... I understand what they mean about "Unicorn" cigars. Since you brought up the challenge, I thought that you were gonna come up with mind blowing, rare cigars.

Also, I did not say that I was not impressed with you. I was repeating what Ropeman said about the cigars not being that impressive. I guess after all the hype, I was expecting something different.

I don't want to get into a pissing match with anyone.

Again, Smelly, those are all great cigars...

Low

PS... The 2 I didn't have:
Padron Millennium... I chose not to spend the $38 that I saw it in a shop for.
Perdomo Edicion... Not that much of a Perdomo smoker, but may get around to trying one...

I really shouldn't get into this...but.... ropeman asked for his cigars back? what kind of a trade is that?

ditto what al'thor said.

choner

I'm embarrased to say that I've never tried ANY of the smokes that Smelly sent, nor do I currently have any of them in my humi. I do have Anejos, but none are sharks.

Thats a mighty fine collection of smokes for someone who has only been in the hobby for 6+ months. You get major props from me, bro.

Ok guys,

This has gotten way out of hand. I just gave my opinion on cigars I got in a trade. I had my head in the clouds and was thinking of different cigars. I think Ras put it "unicorn" cigars. Not that all mine were or maybe none of mine are. But that is what I was thinking about.
As far as , asking for my cigars back. In an email between myself and Dave he said maybe we should just send each others cigars back. I thought maybe we should do that and just get over everything. I thought if we just send each others back then we have what we started with, no harm.I also told Dave not to send my back overnight but I would send his back overnight. My overnight fee is around $5. I was going to compensate him for the overnight shipping with cash.
I really was not going to say anything about the emails Dave and myself are going back n forth with but everyone is chiming in without knowing every detail. If no one wants to talk to me or deal with me after this then that is fine. I know some people will and people that have meet me know what type of person I am. So with that said, I think I am done with this post.

Save face all you want, D.J. An apology and a final "thank you", had to be strangled out of you.

I never said that I wanted mine back. I said I'll just send your's back to you, when I hadn't even recieved them yet....cause you were bein a real jerk about what I sent.

I know I had the better package, and how can you, D.J, say you are a big-dog, when you don't even know what a Between the Lines, WOAM, and others are?!?!?!?!

This is upsetting, and I will officially keep my "newbie" status and will remain a "pup", cause I get enjoyment out of trading with the newer people and actually making CBid a better place to visit. I know they atleast appreciate it.

Regardless of what transpires from this.....I got Burned for the first time, and it hurts! A sour taste in my mouth will not slow my great trading down though.

Dave

Well Dave,

I have every email we have been going back n forth with. Here is part of the 1st email I got from you.

"Whatever you want me to do. I haven't recieved yours yet, so I don't know what's in there, but if you are so unimpressed.....we can just send eachothers back. I was happy, and would be happy to get the 10 I sent...so it really is no skin off my ass. You LMK!

Dave
Smelly4tay"

Do you see the part where you said "we can just send eachothers back" what did that mean? I took it as you wanted yours back.
How were you burnt? You will be getting your cigars back.

D.j,
You really don't want to go back to exact words said in e-mails do you????

What you quoted me saying was exactly correct. I hadn't even recieved your inferior cigars yet, and I had already been squashed by you and a few others.

What the hell was I suppose to do??? You said:

"I really didnt want the trade to come to this but I guess deep down I thought it might. I say this, you get my package and open it. You post what is in it and then we will send the packages back to each other. I really honestly forget what I sent you but I know of at least 2 that I would want back. Not neccessarily to smoke but just to have. So I will send yours back
to you and you send my package back to me. We will call it a wash and act like it never happened."

Now, D.J......who said what again?!?!?!?!

Pathetic!!!!!

oh boy, this is getting ugly. Can't we all just get along?

crap guys can't we stay on one thread? it's too hard to watch this soap opera (and be a nosy commentator...)

You will both probably tell me to F... myself, but you two should do your dirty laudry in the laundry room not in the street for all to see. jmo

Dave,

That was after your email. I sent those cigars out to you with the intentions of not getting them back but since you said what you said sure I want mine back. You want yours back , right? I guess your not going to post the email that I said just keep my cigars and I will send yours back, right? No you probally will not post that one.
Hey you didnt answer my question , on why you think you got burnt?

Fellas this started out as a friendly trade. What the hell happened?

Smelly you took some lumps. So what? None where posted in a malicious way.

DJ, I honestly can not understand why you are upset. If you are not I apologize. While the gars you received are not uncommon they are all damn fine smokes.

This seems fair to me and I think you should both be happy and stop the petty stuff. Stand up grab your cojones and offer a mutual apology. I apologize if I instigated this in anyway. It's just trash talk and should not be considered anything else. Do we need Cbid to offer some desensitivity training?

I would not hesitate to trade with either of you.

I will be the first to stand up and say: D.J, I am truly sorry for letting my emotions and trash-talk get in the way of what should have been a fun little trade. I apologize.

I will send your's back, you send mine back.....and we'll call it fair.

Ok Dave,

Lets get this over with and on to bigger and better things. Lets just send each others packages back to each other and call it fair. Please, please do not send it overnight, $32 is way to much. just send it reg. I will send yours overnight because I only pay $5 for Fed Ex overnight. I will make sure it is morning delivery, this time around.

I am sorry if I hurt your feeling in anyway. I am truly sorry for that. I hope we can put this behind us and show everyone that we are BOTL.

ropeman

It's a deal. Thank you, and I again apologize for getting way too sensitive.

Note to self... Don't trade with either Ropeman or Smelly. My dog rockets would never pass muster- HarleyDave

I would trade with either one of 'em, but I'ld know up front that I'm not trying to impress either one of 'em! Cause I couldn't!