You dumbazz. Right to work has nothing to do with forcing anyone to join anything. It's a republican law, to break unions. There is no debate over it. The law simply says you can't make someone pay dues for being a member, and can't deny them benefits if they don't.
No business survives if it gives a product or device for free. Even republican endorsed ones.

sd72 wrote:

Is this a serious post?

tailgater wrote:

http://www.nrtw.org/en/special-legal-notice-michigan-private-sector-workers

Under 'detailed explication of your rights' end of first question. Click here, will take you to the actual law.

I copied a pro-RTW website, should make it easier to understand for the 'anti's' among you.

sd72 wrote:

You dumbazz. Right to work has nothing to do with forcing anyone to join anything. It's a republican law, to break unions. There is no debate over it. The law simply says you can't make someone pay dues for being a member, and can't deny them benefits if they don't.
No business survives if it gives a product or device for free. Even republican endorsed ones.

sd72 wrote:

OK.
Where does it say that an employee will get union benefits without paying union dues.
Because I didn't see that part.

tailgater wrote:

(A) BECOME OR REMAIN A MEMBER OF A LABOR ORGANIZATION OR
OTHERWISE AFFILIATE WITH OR FINANCIALLY SUPPORT A LABOR
ORGANIZATION.
(B) REFRAIN FROM ENGAGING IN EMPLOYMENT OR REFRAIN FROM
JOINING A LABOR ORGANIZATION OR OTHERWISE AFFILIATING WITH OR
FINANCIALLY SUPPORTING A LABOR ORGANIZATION.
(C) PAY TO ANY CHARITABLE ORGANIZATION OR THIRD PARTY AN
AMOUNT THAT IS IN LIEU OF, EQUIVALENT TO, OR ANY PORTION OF DUES,
FEES, ASSESSMENTS, OR OTHER CHARGES OR EXPENSES REQUIRED OF MEMBERS

I cannot be forced to join or leave a union. I do not have to financially support it either, if I stay. I cannot be denied the benefits afforded the paying members. What would you like edited?

Read B.

sd72 wrote:

(A) BECOME OR REMAIN A MEMBER OF A LABOR ORGANIZATION OR
OTHERWISE AFFILIATE WITH OR FINANCIALLY SUPPORT A LABOR
ORGANIZATION.
(B) REFRAIN FROM ENGAGING IN EMPLOYMENT OR REFRAIN FROM
JOINING A LABOR ORGANIZATION OR OTHERWISE AFFILIATING WITH OR
FINANCIALLY SUPPORTING A LABOR ORGANIZATION.
(C) PAY TO ANY CHARITABLE ORGANIZATION OR THIRD PARTY AN
AMOUNT THAT IS IN LIEU OF, EQUIVALENT TO, OR ANY PORTION OF DUES,
FEES, ASSESSMENTS, OR OTHER CHARGES OR EXPENSES REQUIRED OF MEMBERS

I cannot be forced to join or leave a union. I do not have to financially support it either, if I stay. I cannot be denied the benefits afforded the paying members. What would you like edited?

Read B.

sd72 wrote:

I'm guessing you mean that they would get employer sponsored benefits negotiated by the union?? But, not direct benefits provided by the union to their membership?

Abrignac wrote:

I'm guessing you mean that they would get employer sponsored benefits negotiated by the union?? But, not direct benefits provided by the union to their membership?

Abrignac wrote:

I can't be discriminated against for not paying dues. Not giving me benefits, and giving someone who pays said benefits is discrimination.

sd72 wrote:

Did you read all 8 pages of the law? I can't be discriminated against for not paying dues. Not giving me benefits, and giving someone who pays said benefits is discrimination.
Health & welfare, and pension are part of base pay package, and can't be taken away.
It also helps to know Davis-Bacon, and ERISA laws.

Dues are not part of contract pay package.

sd72 wrote:

You're incorrect about your definition of "discrimination".

I can't be discriminated against for buying a coke at my local 7-11.
But I would have to PAY for that coke.

tailgater wrote: