DrafterX
12 years ago

no but cigars are

teedubbya wrote:




I guess ciggs are just a gateway to another cigg then... 😟
Taps86
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12 years ago
Well this took some strange turns.

Who are we kidding when we say it's safer to drive drunk vs driving High as a kite.
cacman
12 years ago

two very different readings I believe..... you're not getting current THC levels from the hair but may pick up some long term use... 🤔

DrafterX wrote:


Yes. The hair will show longer use, but is being researched for short-term readings. And much controversy over the nano limit, just like the blood-alcohol limit. Believe a swab test is also being researched as a possible field sobriety test, now that they can legally take a swab without a court order.
DrafterX
12 years ago
I heard the new Obamaphones will swab you when you're not paying atttention, analyze the results and send the local PoPo your GPS coordinates... 😟
sd72
12 years ago
When do those come out?
DrafterX
12 years ago
I dunno for sure..... I heard them talking about them on the NPRs... 😟
tailgater
12 years ago

This has got to be the biggest load of crap I've heard.
Many people can't have 2 beers and drive. It's been proven over and over that the smallest amount of alcohol impairs driving. You shouldn't be drinking and driving even if you only have 2 beers. Two wrongs doesn't make the one right. There are tests being developed to accurately measure the amount of THC in your system, like a breathalizer or hair-sample test.

But you are right about MMJ and alcohol being different. Alcohol is far more dangerous, and offers absolutely no medical benefit. Alcohol could be compared to tobacco in that sense. Yet we don't understand all the benefits of MMJ because of the bigotry like yours against it. It's not a charade, and not everyone that lights up is doing it just to get stoned. But having one or two beers is done purely for the effects of alcohol. You can't preach about how wrong it is that someone smokes to get high while your sitting on a bar stool sucking down beers and shots. The truth is there are natural benefits to MMJ that offer fewer side effects than pumping man-made chemicals into your body.

cacman wrote:



Extreme hyperbole aside (biggest load of crap? Really?) you are taking this A: too personally, and B: completely out of context.
I accept that alcohol is bad. I responded to Robert because he suggested that nobody is talking about alcohol and driving, and that is simply not true. Drunk driving is bad. OK? Can I be more clear?

MY biggotry? You must be stoned now because I am IN FAVOR of medicinal mj.
I didn't mean to confuse you when I stated this repeatedly already.

As for the "charade" I stand by that statement.
Because whenever the issue of medicinal usage is brought up, we hear it from the hemp crowd. I know that doctors support your position, but the general public needs to see them rather than Jeff Spicoli wanna-bees.

And yes. I CAN enjoy a beer or two with lunch and be 100% legal to drive.
And I DO drink beer for the enjoyment of the beverage itself.
Most of my drinking involves a single beer. Zero buzz factor.

Who smokes a joint to taste the bud?
Nobody. That's who. The effect is the goal.

You'd be better served focusing your diatribe on people who are against mj usage rather than taking offense and dissecting the details with people like me who agree with the overall premise of medical mj.


tailgater
12 years ago

Well this took some strange turns.

Who are we kidding when we say it's safer to drive drunk vs driving High as a kite.

Taps86 wrote:



This is an EXCELLENT example of how mj fries the brain.

Who said it was better to drive drunk?

Taps86
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12 years ago

This is an EXCELLENT example of how mj fries the brain.

Who said it was better to drive drunk?


"And like I said before, I can go to a bar and have 2 beers with my lunch and drive home. I couldn't go there, get high, then drive home."

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tailgater
12 years ago
So when I have 2 beers with lunch, I'm now drunk?

Logic isn't your strong suit, is it?
DrafterX
12 years ago
hell I could prolly drink 5 beers with lunch and still be fine.... Oklahoma has a stupid 3.2 law.... 😠
teedubbya
12 years ago

hell I could prolly drink 5 beers with lunch and still be fine.... Oklahoma has a stupid 3.2 law.... 😠

DrafterX wrote:



just get the warm stuff at the liquer store
Taps86
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12 years ago

So when I have 2 beers with lunch, I'm now drunk?

Logic isn't your strong suit, is it?

tailgater wrote:





How is driving after smoking even comparable to driving after drinking 2 beers?



tailgater
12 years ago

How is driving after smoking even comparable to driving after drinking 2 beers?



Taps86 wrote:



WHAT?
teedubbya
12 years ago

WHAT?

tailgater wrote:



Are you stoned or somethin?
tailgater
12 years ago

Are you stoned or somethin?

teedubbya wrote:



Somebody is.
teedubbya
12 years ago

Somebody is.

tailgater wrote:



he he not me Mr. Hand
tailgater
12 years ago

he he not me Mr. Hand

teedubbya wrote:



You Deek.
teedubbya
12 years ago
tat was my skull
cacman
12 years ago

MY biggotry? You must be stoned now because I am IN FAVOR of medicinal mj.
I didn't mean to confuse you when I stated this repeatedly already.

As for the "charade" I stand by that statement.
Because whenever the issue of medicinal usage is brought up, we hear it from the hemp crowd. I know that doctors support your position, but the general public needs to see them rather than Jeff Spicoli wanna-bees.

And yes. I CAN enjoy a beer or two with lunch and be 100% legal to drive.
And I DO drink beer for the enjoyment of the beverage itself.
Most of my drinking involves a single beer. Zero buzz factor.

Who smokes a joint to taste the bud?
Nobody. That's who. The effect is the goal.

tailgater wrote:


You say you are for it, yet you put down and stereotype the people that use it? Some people do us MMJ because it does taste good - a lot better than tobacco. Guess you've never heard of edibles that don't involve smoking at all. And yes the effect is the goal the same as smoking a cigar, cigarette, or drinking a beer.

If you only drink beer for the enjoyment of the beverage itself, then switch to non-alcoholic beer. For some people two beers and they are drunk. Individual tolerances are different. And even though you only drink one beer with zero buzz factor as you say, the alcohol still has its effects & impairments just as taking a single toke will. Face it, you drink a beer not just for the taste but also the effect. If you had 2 beers with lunch, left the pub and got in an accident, although below DUI limits the alcohol will make the situation a lot worse as far as the police and insurance are concerned. I find it completely hypocritical when someone says they only drink because it tastes good. Part of the enjoyment of the beverage is the alcohol itself. Otherwise you would be drinking non-alcoholic beer and wine.
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