kombat96
11 years ago
Crazy world, guy decapitated one lady and started afer another before a good citizen popped him with a bullet. Oklahoma is going to set a precedent.
CelticBomber
11 years ago
From NBC

A fired Oklahoma food processing plant worker who had tried to convert some of his co-workers to Islam beheaded one co-worker and seriously injured another before the owner of the plant shot him, police said Friday. After he was terminated from Vaughan Foods in Moore, Alton Nolen, 30, drove to another part of the facility where he attacked Colleen Hufford, 54, police said. He used a β€œstandard” knife to behead her, police said. He then allegedly used the same knife to repeatedly stab Traci Johnson, 43. Some co-workers told police that he had recently converted to Islam and had been trying to convert them. Police said Nolen had no relationship with either victim.


Those wacky Muslims and their cray cray* Religion of Peace



*cray cray is how the kids these days say something is crazy
Abrignac
11 years ago
Too bad there were no concealed carry folks around. Might have saved a life.
stogiemonger
11 years ago
I believe it was the company CAO who popped him.
Abrignac
11 years ago

I believe it was the company CAO who popped him.

stogiemonger wrote:




True. An off duty popo
MACS
11 years ago

True. An off duty popo

Abrignac wrote:



Yeah... and if more people were issued CCW's, there would be less victims.

God made man. Colt made 'em equal. Those women were no match for a man with a knife. If one of them had a gun.. they would have been.
MACS
11 years ago
Now lets all wait for Victor to show up and tell us guns are evil and he has no need for one.
Burner02
11 years ago
More work place violence.

No terrorism here!
TMCTLT
11 years ago

More work place violence.

No terrorism here!

Burner02 wrote:




Penalty needs to FIT the crime....one of the lady's family members should be allowed to saw his head off with a knife and then stuff it with Bacon
gryphonms
11 years ago
I wonder why this is not being called a hate crime which it appears to be. I also wonder why Eric Holder is not going there to investigate like he did in Ferguson. Could it be that a white christian person does not matter to our government? Could it be that a black Muslim will not be prosecuted for a hate crime by our government?
DrafterX
11 years ago
gotta wonder who taught this guy to be Muslim tho.... πŸ€” πŸ€”


I don't think the regular ones do this... 😟
victor809
11 years ago

Now lets all wait for Victor to show up and tell us guns are evil and he has no need for one.

MACS wrote:



Now MACS, I'm gonna assume you're trolling because you know I don't think guns are evil. I have no need for one, and I am glad I've never owned one (because I am clumsy, like to screw around a lot, and over the years I've had many drunk and irresponsible friends). But I've never said someone else shouldn't own one.

I think this "if only someone with a gun were around" handwaving is disingenuous though. You have no idea what would have happened, only your idealized version. In this particular case, a couple people got stabbed/beheaded until someone with a gun was able to shoot him. In an idealized world, the first woman had a gun and shot him before anyone was hurt. But guess what, that's just a fantasy, "everything falling into place" dream. Could be the first woman was armed, the assailant chops her head off, takes her gun. shoots the second woman and shoots the guy who came to stop him... then goes on and shoots a few more people. Or in a different reality, the first woman bought a gun to protect herself, her kid gets into it, shoots his friend and himself... she kills herself out of depression (using pills, because women never shoot themselves) and is never even in the plant to be beheaded.

Its all make-believe MACS. If you feel like having a gun on you makes you safer, then by all means carry one... but don't pretend that every possible situation will automatically be better if there were someone armed around.
BuckyB93
11 years ago

Now MACS, I'm gonna assume you're trolling because you know I don't think guns are evil. I have no need for one, and I am glad I've never owned one (because I am clumsy, like to screw around a lot, and over the years I've had many drunk and irresponsible friends). But I've never said someone else shouldn't own one.

I think this "if only someone with a gun were around" handwaving is disingenuous though. You have no idea what would have happened, only your idealized version. In this particular case, a couple people got stabbed/beheaded until someone with a gun was able to shoot him. In an idealized world, the first woman had a gun and shot him before anyone was hurt. But guess what, that's just a fantasy, "everything falling into place" dream. Could be the first woman was armed, the assailant chops her head off, takes her gun. shoots the second woman and shoots the guy who came to stop him... then goes on and shoots a few more people. Or in a different reality, the first woman bought a gun to protect herself, her kid gets into it, shoots his friend and himself... she kills herself out of depression (using pills, because women never shoot themselves) and is never even in the plant to be beheaded.

Its all make-believe MACS. If you feel like having a gun on you makes you safer, then by all means carry one... but don't pretend that every possible situation will automatically be better if there were someone armed around.

victor809 wrote:



So you dis spell MACS potential outcome and supply two more fantasy scenarios as your cornerstone? Not sure that's the strongest debate strategy.
victor809
11 years ago

So you dis spell MACS potential outcome and supply two more fantasy scenarios as your cornerstone? Not sure that's the strongest debate strategy.

BuckyB93 wrote:



My point was they are all fantasy. Any of the stories, plus millions of other possible permutations, could have happened the instant you change something that fundamental. None of us are smart enough, or have enough knowledge, to decide which is the "most likely"... it's simply masturbation at that point.
ZRX1200
11 years ago
Well in my fantasy I'm always armed.
Buckwheat
11 years ago

gotta wonder who taught this guy to be Muslim tho.... πŸ€” πŸ€”


I don't think the regular ones do this... 😟

DrafterX wrote:



This guy was just a nut case. People want to read into his conversion to Islam as the cause. You have to be mentally ill to do what he did.

I've know several Muslims when I was in college and they were pretty normal. I think the term is "Vodka Drinking Muslims".

I've know many more dangerous Christians than any other religion but I take them as being nut jobs and not representative of all Christians.

YMMV
DrafterX
11 years ago
those Scientologist dudes scare the hell outta me.... 😟
Buckwheat
11 years ago

those Scientologist dudes scare the hell outta me.... 😟

DrafterX wrote:



+1 not to mention the Westboro Baptist Church.
DrafterX
11 years ago

+1 not to mention the Westboro Baptist Church.

Buckwheat wrote:




not to worried about them... saw them once and I'm pretty sure I could whoop their asses... Spaceships are a different story... 😟
HockeyDad
11 years ago
One thing we do know is that when the knife wielding attacker came up against the guy with a gun, the gun won.

It probably would have been best if he didn't have that gun due to the risk that the attacker could have taken his gun and shot a bunch of additional people.
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