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8trackdisco
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a year ago

#21

Well you better vote for Trump or you get Biden! You’re still whining about the primaries.

HockeyDad wrote:

As a proclaimed Desantis voter, you certainly gave up quick, dropping to you knees to suck the cheese puff, and make excuses for him like he’s your messiah.

From what I’ve read, only Jesus lived a perfect life. Peter denied Jesus three times.

Have you ever denied the opportunity to prop Trump up, deflect criticism of him, or voice any discontent when it comes to him?

8trackdisco
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a year ago

#22

I’m trying to see the forest through the trees but the fog is too thick. Wasn’t Trump beating the pants off all of the other candidates? If he was, does that mean he’s the most electable? Or is there an implication that Dem voters would never vote for Trump over Biden but they might swing for one of the other Republican candidates? I’m not following the logic on the electability claim.

Also, is it possible that some voters might vote for Trump because they think he’s a better choice than Biden? Maybe these voters don’t love Trump but they don’t have confidence in Biden? I can understand some people voting for Biden because they hate Trump or because they think Biden is a better choice and not just because they hate Trump or because they are drinking the DNC KoolAid. All the above. Is there only one type of person voting for Trump? Just brainwashed MAGA and no others? That just doesn’t seem likely to me.

jeebling wrote:

It’s all about the margins. It depends on how truthful people are being on surveys.

-There aren’t many Always Biden or Never Biden people. The few Dems, Libs, Conservative Dems I’ve talked with and hear more about secretly want someone other than Biden and realize a Kamala presidency would lead to 8 years of Republican rule after. But they hold their line and shut up, and hope Joan talks him into hanging it up.

Trump has a stranglehold on 30% of the Republicans. He could shoot somebody in New York, call OAC a Can’t Understand Normal Thinking and azzrape a dead raccoon on a GoPro live feed and it would matter to that 30%.

There is another 40% of Republicans or Conservatives that don’t like him, but he wears the red jersey, so they are voting for him. Regardless

Those two camps are what you see posting pro Trump stuff on Cbid.

Then it gets dicey.
10%, maybe 15% of Republicans are Never Trumpers. Those are represented by the people who have become or has always been sick of his crap and resigned from the House of Representatives.

The last 15% are watching to see how these legal cases shake out.

The more convictions he gets, the more his support is going to flake.
Maybe the NY Hush Money trial only loses him 1 or 2%. That trickle gets a little runnier with each conviction.

Add to that, his mouth gets in his own way. Recent example;
Six weeks ago in Wisconsin, he was up on Biden by 2.5 points.
Three weeks ago, the lead was down to 2 points over Biden.

Then he said Milwaukee is a horrible city. The place where the Republicans are having their convention.

The latest survey from Wednesday of this week has Biden up a point.

I doubt many conservatives are going to cross over and vote for Biden. But the question is how many Republicans and Conservatives are simply not voting for this creep?

And people truly in the middle of the road are turned off by both.

The autopsy will be death by bleeding votes by mostly self inflicted paper cuts.

He’s still a slight favorite to win. But he has four and a half months to keep running his mouth and collecting convictions.

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8trackdisco
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a year ago

#23

In all seriousness, Biden is going to win, nothing will burn, and you’ll be holding the bag conned again. The next four years are going to awesome.

HockeyDad wrote:

Of course they will be awesome for you. You’ve crowed here many times how you’ll make money either way.

Gene363
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a year ago

#24

If Poopy Pants is Biden, fear not. I’ll just short of guarantee you’ve voted for more Democrats for President in Novembers than I have. Although I think it is cute that you feel I have that much power.

8trackdisco wrote:

Unless your count is a negative number, no chance, it's never happened. I did vote for one democrat governor here in South Carolina, he warned the DOE would screw over South Carolina and he was right.

The escape pod: https://cigarbid.freeforums.net

HockeyDad
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a year ago

#25

8trackdisco wrote:

Now you’re just lashing out. Your candidate got knocked out in the primary. So did mine. You just are struggling to come to acceptance.

Vote for Biden or vote for Trump. It’s binary. Suck the cheese puff or lick the dirty Depends if that’s how you want to see it. I don’t like Trump at any personal level but I do recognize the extent the powers we’re willing to go to keep him out the first time and even more so now. I’m betting with the powers which is not a bet on democracy.

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jeebling
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a year ago

#26

8track, I understand the points you are making. I have a question about this one -

The more convictions he gets, the more his support is going to flake.
Maybe the NY Hush Money trial only loses him 1 or 2%. That trickle gets a little runnier with each conviction

I believe these lawsuits may blow up in the DEMs face. Maybe not. Are you 100% in your thoughts here or are you thinking that this is a more likely than not situation? What I mean is, do you think this is a slam dunk? None of us can know beforehand what will happen for sure, I’m just asking what your resolve is on this observation.

Thanks for taking the time to share your perspective.

jeebling
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a year ago

#27

My noob shouldn't smoke chitty cigars.

rfenst wrote:

I’ve sworn off Gurkhas. Fact is, I didn’t like the ones I tried. They were like smoking rolled up farts. Ironically.

ZRX1200
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a year ago

#28

“Trump could do _______”

Yeah….and look at the crap that’s BEEN pulled and you think the democrats are worthy of any consideration for anything other than emptying trash cans.

No percentage of RepubliCANT voters that are fed up with your coveted mushy Bud-Light R’s?
No percentage that are fed up with DC machine?

Little tip for ya, he gets support because he is ridiculous. He has ZERO to do with the divisiveness he is a symptom of it.

Mr. Jones
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a year ago

#29

For the life of me.....

I can't predict a winner this November....

All's I know is...

If TRUMP loses again?

A.L.L. HELL IS GONNA BREAK LOOSE!!

ALL THOSE MAGA NUT JOBS ARE ARMED TO THE TEETH!!!

and I know dozens of them ( at the very least) will go totally bonkers
And make the January 6 insurrection look like a:

"Sally Star & Chief Halftown ROMPER ROOM PARTY"

(NO MILLENIAL CAN EVEN DECIFER THIS)

jeebling
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a year ago

#30

I’m armed to the teeth but I don’t I plan on raising hell except for coming on CBid and bellyaching. If Trump loses and makes claims that he can’t back up in court like he did last time, then I’ll take what we get. If something else happens then all bets are off. I don’t want a nation divided so greatly along political ideology and I don’t want to see violence.

MACS
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a year ago

#31

I'm just a little disappointed that someone who has known me for a long time can believe I am "easily led".

Free thinker. I'm not swallowing what the MSM and the tech machine would like me to swallow.

Much like that Fauci ouchie... yep... thought for myself, didn't get it, and am not regretting that decision in the least.

8trackdisco
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a year ago

#32

MACS wrote:

Does that imply that I am perhaps easily led by the MSM? Not sure that the Tech Machine is.
You were a leader in the Navy. You reported to quality leaders. Ethics, Drive, Determination, Honesty, maybe Virtuist leaders.

Trump checks the Drive and Determination boxes. He lacks the rest of them. Knowing he is so lacking in true leadership traits, thought it was just a phase. You know he's a sleazeball.

Since I've known you, you've dismissed low characters people. Now you not only endorse him, you want him to lead the country you swore to defend from all enemies foreign and domestic.

I do have a better understanding since you explaining you are no longer bound to that oath.

You are going to do what you are going to do. It's just out of character for what I've experienced over the last nearly 20 years.

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rfenst
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a year ago

#33

jeebling wrote:

What will be, what will be.

8trackdisco
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a year ago

#34

What will be, what will be.

rfenst wrote:

There is still a guy in Green Bay with a sign in his front yard reading "Fix 2020 First".
The fake electors who are now in court were trying to do just that.

Maybe that is what Trump was referring to when he said there was election fraud.

MACS
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a year ago

#35

Is he an ass? Yeah. Should he just STFU and do what needs doing? Yeah.

But for 3 years before the pLandemic, we were rolling. Border secure, gas prices good, economy good, no new wars. Everyone loved him before he jumped into politics and now he's racist and bad?

He's absolutely light years better than the shit for brains criminal, pedo, daughter diddling fool that's being puppeted around for us. LIGHT YEARS BETTER.

The best? No. Of course not. But who else we got that's going to get us back on track? I don't want another politician that speaks nice with charisma and then screws us 6 ways to Sunday like we've been getting.

I'd rather have the ass hole who does the right thing for US.

For the record, some of my military leaders were arrogant, narcissist d-bags.

Edit: I don't think you're easily led. We think differently. The tech machine is google, Fascistbook, Instagram, Twitter (now X and now free from influence), etc... controlling what you see and hear.

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HockeyDad
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a year ago

#36

Does that imply that I am perhaps easily led by the MSM? Not sure that the Tech Machine is.

8trackdisco wrote:

Maybe you’re a little easier to be lead than you think! You have no knowledge of what big tech did in the 2020 election? Adorable.

You’re terrified of a bloodbath…

“If you’re listening, President Xi — and you and I are friends — but he understands the way I deal. Those big monster car manufacturing plants that you’re building in Mexico right now … you’re going to not hire Americans and you’re going to sell the cars to us, no. We’re going to put a 100% tariff on every single car that comes across the line, and you’re not going to be able to sell those cars if I get elected,” Trump said.

“Now if I don’t get elected, it’s going to be a bloodbath for the whole — that’s gonna be the least of it,” he added. “It’s going to be a bloodbath for the country. That will be the least of it. But they’re not going to sell those cars. They’re building massive factories.”

By the way, the cheese was awesome!

8trackdisco
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a year ago

#37

HockeyDad wrote:

I’d like one of those decoder rings you have. Am certain it is with 100% accuracy you know when Trump means what he says, when he’s kidding, and when he doesn’t even know.

The gift for a person that has everything.

HockeyDad
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a year ago

#38

You don’t need a decoder ring. Come on man.

The people who control your information filter told you Trump said “bloodbath” and you bit on their narrative that it meant violence. They got Speyside as well. You got duped. In all your certainty do you ever maybe wonder if they are running a terror campaign on you? Vote for Biden or disaster, doom, and gloom await you!

They fed you the bloodbath line and you more than willingly accepted it. Hook, line, and sinker.

MACS
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a year ago

#39

HockeyDad wrote:

What Hockeydad is trying to say (and he put the quote from the rally there for you to see) is that ONCE AGAIN, what Trump said was taken out of context. The media said "If he doesn't get elected, he said there would be a bloodbath!"

What he was actually saying at the rally was the policies of the dems are going to create a bloodbath in the auto industry. Context, brother... he was speaking to auto workers. And why is it, do you think, that the media constantly does this??

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RayR
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a year ago

#40

It's true MACS, the lefties have always been the masters of disinformation.

I love it when they scream and jump around wildly after they do a few lines of cocaine.
AOC does a great impersonation of a leftist dicktator.
I thought Jamaal Bowman was going to bang out with a rap tune.

‘Losing your grip’: AOC treats people to ‘absolute cringefest’ at Bronx rally

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Strangely, the only Dem with a grip on reality in this video is disgraced former Governor Andrew Cuomo.

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