Robby
23 years ago
Come on xaigoxx! You know that argument is ridiculous, don't you? It's not a logical comparison and you want to be logical don't you? Yelling fire puts people in imminent danger of being trampled. What danger are you put in if I fly a battle flag on my bumper sticker?

That's an absurd comparison. I don't fly one, but if I wanted to (and many do), what the hell should it matter to you? Are African Americans who where a big X on their hat committing some kind of a crime? Some believe Malcolm X was somewhat of a terrorist... Should their “feelings” be protected by disallowing that form of free speech? They're not committing a crime anymore than someone who wants to wear a North Korean Flag, or a battle flag.

Hey, here's a good comparison for you, Yelling fire isn't legal because people could get hurt, well therefore, we should not have free speech, because someone could say something that hurts someone else’s feelings, right?

Let's all just put giant body condoms on, tape our mouths and ears shut, and lay on our couches, that way, you'd never have to be so terribly offended by seeing (pause) A confederate flag! Oh No!! Hey, you first, ok? Let me know when you're in position on the couch.
jreddoch
23 years ago
A rallying symbol for crackers, reactionaries, and yahoos. I am a native Texan and had a Great-Great-Grandfather who fought for the Confederacy. In his letters home he expressed anger that he had to risk his life so the rich man could keep his slaves. Does anyone really think that the USA would have become the superpower it is today if the division had stood? Thank God the Union won that war. If I had been alive at that time, I would have been one of the 450,000 Southerners who fought for the Union.
PMoreno349
23 years ago
Robby
23 years ago
judge not lest ye be judged harshly... For those that judge harshly shall be judged... HARSLEY! I don't want to be on the receiving side of any harsh judgment... I say if you want to fly the F'ing Greenland flag, go for it. Whatever blows your skirt up.
DrMaddVibe
23 years ago
Rob, unless you're God Almighty(which you aren't!!!), you don't have any authority to judge! What does judging have to do with this stupid decisive flag?

A:Nothing!
Charlie
23 years ago
I am from the South! I sm a student of History and my favorite subjects are World War II and the American Civil War, both of which will provide hours of pleasureable reading and study!

I am about as Patriotic as anybody can be...fly American Flags at my house and have flag decals on my cars! I will never forget nor forgive 9/11-do not ever expect me to forgive or forget that horrible event in American History!

I happen to think the Southern Cross or the Confederate Battle Flag is a beautiful piece of American History and signifies the brave men that fought for the Confederacy against the brave men who fought for the North or the USA! I do not view this flag as a symbol of hatred or bigotry! I think of it being waived by the Southern Cavalary troops as they fought at Gettysburg, Vicksburg or any other storied battle!

I love the American Flag and think that it is the greatest symbol of Freedom and Democracy in the entire World! Call me an American!

Charlie
jreddoch
23 years ago
Charlie! You like! Exclamation points! Don't you?!!!
Charlie
23 years ago
Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
xaigoxx
23 years ago
Point proven that this flag means many different things to different people. In the south, they see it everywhere. so it can mean a lot of different things.

Here in California, this flag doesnt symbolize southern california! When I see the flag here, its usually when a bunch of neo nazi punks stroll the streets. So this flag is used for many.. many different messages in different areas around the country.
Robby
23 years ago
There is an interesting (very interesting!) perspective. I'm fond of calling people JACKA$$'S and looking askance at them based on their lily livered liberal leanings, which is arguably judging. However, I take umbrage at the same treatment, people saying free speech is wrong and anyone with a penchant for history and southern pride is really just using code for being a racist bigoted nazi. I view that as being judgmental and wrong, but see nothing wrong with my views toward the pinko's with their strongly held liberal beliefs... Very interesting, and enlightening. Introspection, has brought about a veritable dialect epiphany. "the Hegelian process of change in which a concept or its realization passes over into and is preserved and fulfilled by its opposite"...

I will try not to be as judgmental of those without the capacity to see things correctly. 🙂
xaigoxx
23 years ago
first of all.. robby, i never called people from the south racists. I said that many people see this flag as a symbol or southern pride and etc, not racism. HOwever, many use this flag for a symbol of racism as well.

THis flag means different things to different people. I live in California, and when I see this flag here, I dont see a bunch of southern pride folks walking around being friendly. WHen I see this flag here, I see a bunch of racist bastards passing out flyers and displaying public racism. So this flag has dual purpose. I never said freedom of speech is bad or wrong. I said express and use it responsibly.
Robby
23 years ago
Are you on the couch yet? Do you find the body condem restrictive?
E-Chick
23 years ago
Is it a COTTON flag?

Maybe we should ban cotton?

Cotton is a 'bad' symbol.

Oh, and do you use Aunt Jemima Syrup?...bad, so bad!

Isn't it a state flag? I'm not really sure, but if so, as such, it should be flown on any and all state/fed buildings of that state. If it isn't, well then people that wish to fly it with pride should certainly do so.

Geez, I've got to look at a large Canadian flag proudly flying across the street displayed on a neighbor's house everyday. Not that I have anything personally against Cananda, but I'd much prefer to see the good ol' Stars and Bars being flown over there. What can I do...it's a right, right?

Some people use the symbol of the Christian cross to suit their own issues or beliefs, i.e., upside down...I don't get all up in arms seeing it used in disgrace...some people just won't change their views to suit MY needs!

Imagine that...
xaigoxx
23 years ago
riight.. well the canada flag isnt offensive. doesnt represent hate. No the confederate flag is not a state flag. So if your neighbor had a flag representing Al Qaeda... then it would be ok? Because of his right? This isnt abusing his right? What if the flag had a picture with Twin towers being stuck by 2 planes? That would be ok too?

Robby, walk through Harlem or Compton, whichever is closer, with a nice confederate flag. See what happens. See what the flag means to them. Also, you can feel racism and hate being aimed at you. Not everyone will respond to your display, but i guarantee a nice group of people will approach you and show you how they feel.
ducati996
23 years ago
Isn't it illegal to fly any flag over the Stars and Stripes? I know it is not proper. I thought the American flag had to be flown higher than any other flag being displayed with it. E-chick, go tell on your Canadian friends and have them arrested..lol.
Robby
23 years ago
xaigoxx, and there you would be, grinning from ear to ear, thinking to yourself, look at that extremist, he's getting beat to hell, just like he deserves. Doesn't that make YOU an extremist? Or at the very least, a hypocrite? Sounds like this is a forest for the trees position you're taking. I beat you favor the death penalty for anyone who attempts suicide too…

While we're at it, was it Tipper who wanted to censor music lyrics? Hey, there's plenty of things I find objectionable on TV, let's have a political correctness panel to review anything and every thing that anyone anywhere could find objectionable and deal with it before they get a chance to offend anyone. Can you say, USSR?

BTW, you never told me if that body condom was restrictive or not? Just wondering.
Tobasco
23 years ago

E, if someone were to fly some other flag, of another country accross from me, I might have to exersize my rights too.

I might be tempted to go buy a Canadian flag, pour gasoline on it and torch it for my Canadian neighbors to see!

Then tell them to get the $%&*$ out of this country if you love Canada so much!

Mag
Spiny Norman
23 years ago
"While we're at it, was it Tipper who wanted to censor music lyrics?"

Yes, and she wasn't alone!

PMRC’s Formation

In April 1985, along with three other "well-connected Washington
wives and mothers" Tipper founded the PMRC. Almost overnight
the group "emerged as rock’s most potent critics."

"This summer they picked up welcome leadership
from Tipper Gore, 36, Pam Howar, 43, and Susan
Baker, 48, three well-connected Washington
wives and mothers. Gore is a Virginia-bred mother
of four. Howar, a former ad agency owner, is the wife
of Washington real estate developer Raymond
Howar. Baker, a devout Christian who favors classical
and country & Western music, is the wife of Treasury
Secretary James Baker, formerly the White House
Chief of Staff.

Fortunatly, we had the very liberal Frank Zappa to put them in their place!
usahog
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23 years ago
"Don't you go where the Eskimo's go, and don't you eat that Yellow Snow"

"Why Does it Hurt when I P"

Frankie!!!!!! and the younger Moonchild!!!!

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Robby
23 years ago
"So I tugged on her hair, got her legs in the air and I asked her if she had any cooties in there.

Whattya mean cooties, no cooties on me!

She was bunz up nealin (Buns up)
I was wheelin and dealin
She surrendered to the feelin
and started in a squealin"
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