frankj1
8 years ago

My opinion, not that it matters

As a veteran, I'll defend with my life the right of any American citizen to kneel during the National Anthem. At the same time I'll tell you, that I can't think of a circumstance that would cause me to do it i find it disrespectful, in poor taste, and not an effective means of protest.

You want to bring attention to your cause and get someone like me to support it? There are better ways to do it. You want someone to take a bullet for your right to be an a hole? I raised my hand and wrote Uncle Sam a blank check that said I would defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic over a quarter of century ago and I haven't cancelled that check yet. Nor will I. Ever.

So go be a jack ass if you want. I'm there to let you do that. But if you want to disrespect the blood that my brothers and I have she'd so you can do that, don't expect me to like it

Mathen wrote:


so easily understood.

missed you here, bro.
tailgater
8 years ago



Just gonna throw this out there... both protesting at Charlotte VA, and protesting by kneeling during the anthem are examples of exercising ones rights. Which do you think is more offensive to the troops who fought for our country? someone kneeling during the national anthem, or someone waving an american flag while wearing a bunch of nazi symbols? I mean, I know what I think, but maybe I'm missing something.

victor809 wrote:



The fact that you have to ask that question clears up a lot of things.

DrafterX
8 years ago

Here's what the game operations manual says regarding the national anthem, according to an NFL spokesperson:

The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem. During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.

It's in their own operations manual. Hypocrites. Period.

MACS wrote:





this should clear up any questions... all they had to do was disciplined Kaperdick... 🤐
Ewok126
8 years ago

My opinion, not that it matters

As a veteran, I'll defend with my life the right of any American citizen to kneel during the National Anthem. At the same time I'll tell you, that I can't think of a circumstance that would cause me to do it i find it disrespectful, in poor taste, and not an effective means of protest.

You want to bring attention to your cause and get someone like me to support it? There are better ways to do it. You want someone to take a bullet for your right to be an a hole? I raised my hand and wrote Uncle Sam a blank check that said I would defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic over a quarter of century ago and I haven't cancelled that check yet. Nor will I. Ever.

So go be a jack ass if you want. I'm there to let you do that. But if you want to disrespect the blood that my brothers and I have she'd so you can do that, don't expect me to like it

Mathen wrote:




I think you put it way better than I did or could have. It has been bugging me greatly, especially since it became a subject here and I had tried to say exactly what you are stating but just could not quite articulate what you have put forth. I thank you sir.
Speyside
8 years ago
Read the Piers Morgan statement. Though about it and disagree stongly. He is entitled to his opinion. I find it wrong. Protest in a manner that doesn't piss off the majority of America.
Buckwheat
8 years ago

You owe me for wasting my time...

TMCTLT wrote:



Really this whole discussion is a waste of time when we as a country have many more pressing and important things that we should be concentrating and devoting our energy towards. If the twitter-in-chief hadn't decided to stick his nose into this BS it would've probably just died away. Now the national dialog and every news source is concentrating on something that doesn't benefit anyone. How about the administration spend more time addressing North Korea, Health Care, hurricane relief, illegal aliens, and the numerous other things that will actually make a difference to it's citizens. 🌫
cacman
8 years ago
The "Power Salute" from the 1968 Olympics was not widely accepted either even though the athletes turned on the podium to face their flags, and to hear the American national anthem, "The Star-Spangled Banner". Each athlete raised a black-gloved fist, and kept them raised until the anthem had finished. In addition, Smith, Carlos, and Australian silver medalist Peter Norman all wore human rights badges on their jackets.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1968_Olympics_Black_Power_salute 

It's clear by the NFL's lack of discipline, their hiring practices, and public support of kneeling during the Anthem that the NFL is in fact a racist organization.
DrafterX
8 years ago

Really this whole discussion is a waste of time when we as a country have many more pressing and important things that we should be concentrating and devoting our energy towards. If the twitter-in-chief hadn't decided to stick his nose into this BS it would've probably just died away. Now the national dialog and every news source is concentrating on something that doesn't benefit anyone. How about the administration spend more time addressing North Korea, Health Care, hurricane relief, illegal aliens, and the numerous other things that will actually make a difference to it's citizens. 🌫

Buckwheat wrote:





You're right Buckwheat.. We should send the illegals to North Korea..!! 👍
tailgater
8 years ago
It appears that most of the same people who are supporting the players "rights" to kneel during our Anthem are the ones who cried foul when Tim Tebow kneeled to pray.

To recap:
Kneel down in a short, personal, private prayer = offensive.
Kneel during our National Anthem to protest America = true patriot.

*taken from Liberal Logic and other Leftist Oxymorons. Author unknown. Verified by snopes.

teedubbya
8 years ago
They should move all teams to altitude
teedubbya
8 years ago
Did folks in here bitch about tebow? I don't remember. I just hunk he lacked talent.
teedubbya
8 years ago
Hunk is better than think. I'll leave it.
tailgater
8 years ago
Freud would have a field day with you.
teedubbya
8 years ago
Only if he bought me dinner first. I'm not easy.
MACS
8 years ago

this should clear up any questions... all they had to do was disciplined Kaperdick... 🤐

DrafterX wrote:



It clears the whole thing up. The NFL is ignoring its own manual.

Mike Rowe has it right... It's about what people will tolerate. I, and many others, have tuned out because we're tired of the foolishness.

NOBODY in this country is oppressed. Anyone living here is free to pursue the American dream. Nothing is holding them back; not race, not religion, not ethnicity, not socioeconomic background... nothing. How bad do you want it, and how hard are you willing to work to get it?

These athletes should know that. They didn't get to the NFL by not putting in the work at every level. Their efforts were rewarded with 6 and 7 figure salaries. Many others had the talent, but didn't put in the work.
TMCTLT
8 years ago

Really this whole discussion is a waste of time when we as a country have many more pressing and important things that we should be concentrating and devoting our energy towards. If the twitter-in-chief hadn't decided to stick his nose into this BS it would've probably just died away. Now the national dialog and every news source is concentrating on something that doesn't benefit anyone. How about the administration spend more time addressing North Korea, Health Care, hurricane relief, illegal aliens, and the numerous other things that will actually make a difference to it's citizens. 🌫

Buckwheat wrote:




YES, yes it is. I've no time for this nonsense, these fuggers are simply using their platform and OPPORTUNITY to continue to STIRv THE RACIAL POT.....nothing more. AND until we ignore them it will not go away, they will continue to set up one hurtle after another for you to jump through. Enjoy the shenanigans though.
cacman
8 years ago
What is truly pathetic is that this "protest" has now morphed into a protest of the President, supported by Congressmen and celebrities. Far from its original meaning.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/congresswoman-takes-a-knee-on-the-house-floor-to-protest-donald-trumps-nfl-remarks/ar-AAstRdb 
TMCTLT
8 years ago

What is truly pathetic is that this "protest" has now morphed into a protest of the President, supported by Congressmen and celebrities. Far from its original meaning.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/congresswoman-takes-a-knee-on-the-house-floor-to-protest-donald-trumps-nfl-remarks/ar-AAstRdb 

cacman wrote:





And I'm certain all those who voted for the broad ate it up too.
DrafterX
8 years ago
Think I got it figured out.. if they kneel they have to have a mandatory full knee replacement surgery... That'll keep them upright... 😟
teedubbya
8 years ago
Yall are doing a great job of ignoring them.
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