MACS
8 years ago
Here's what the game operations manual says regarding the national anthem, according to an NFL spokesperson:

The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem. During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.

It's in their own operations manual. Hypocrites. Period.
frankj1
8 years ago

Here's what the game operations manual says regarding the national anthem, according to an NFL spokesperson:

The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem. During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.

It's in their own operations manual. Hypocrites. Period.

MACS wrote:


what happens when several owners support the players?

though I suspect (speculation again?) they rallied behind the players against being called S.O.B's who should be fired by the President!...even if personally against the silent protests.
Abrignac
8 years ago

what happens when several owners support the players?

though I suspect (speculation again?) they rallied behind the players against being called S.O.B's who should be fired by the President!...even if personally against the silent protests.

frankj1 wrote:



Then the owners are hypocrites. Had they insisted the players follow the manual to begin with we wouldn't be having this discussion.
frankj1
8 years ago
so then, fire the owners too?
Abrignac
8 years ago

so then, fire the owners too?

frankj1 wrote:



Nope, boycott them. I am.
MACS
8 years ago
Let us not forget that free speech is NOT protected while one is at work.

If I decided to protest something while at work, in uniform, I would be justifiably fired. If I decided to protest while NOT at work, but in uniform, I would be justifiably fired.

It's in our general orders... just as it is in their operations manual.
MACS
8 years ago

Nope, boycott them. I am.

Abrignac wrote:



Yep. Not watching, not attending, not buying merchandise... not clicking on websites... nada.
jjanecka
8 years ago
I bet they're gonna try and pull the anthem
frankj1
8 years ago

Nope, boycott them. I am.

Abrignac wrote:


there ya go.
teedubbya
8 years ago
And get off my lawn
frankj1
8 years ago

And get off my lawn

teedubbya wrote:


but it's the only place with good reception for the game.
Gene363
8 years ago

This is from a former Command Chaplain; It's a longer read, but please do so!!! God bless the USA!

Having had a grandfather, father, father in law, and son serve in the military here are some thoughts from a patriot. After serving over 30 years in the military I also advocate that we all have freedom in this great country to protest, but the flag is not the platform to use to express anger and frustration. The flag means too much to so many...for all who have served gave some, and some gave all. Here is the quote:
You want to take a knee?

Take a little trip to Valley Forge in January. If you don't know where that is, just Google it from the sidelines. Hold a musket ball in your fingers and imagine it piercing your flesh and breaking a bone or two. There won't be a doctor or trainer to assist you until after the battle, so just wait your turn.Take your cleats and socks off to get a real experience. Then take a knee.

Then, take one at the beach in Normandy where man after American man stormed the beach, even as the one in front of him was shot to pieces...the very sea stained with American blood. The only blockers most had were the dead bodies in front of them, riddled with bullets from enemy fire.

Take a knee in the sweat soaked jungles of Vietnam. from Khe San to Saigon...Anywhere will do. Americans died in all those jungles.There was no playbook that told them what was next, but they knew what flag they represented. When they came home, they were protested as well..and spit on for reasons only cowards know.

Take another knee in the blood drenched sands of Fallujah in 110 degree heat..Wear your Kevlar helmet and battle dress...Your number won't be printed on it unless your number is up! You'll need to stay hydrated but there won't be anyone to squirt Gatorade into your mouth. You're on your own.

There's a lot of places to take a knee. Americans have given their lives all over the world. When you use the banner under which they fought as a source for your displeasure, you dishonor the memories of those who bled for the very freedoms you have. That's what the red stripes mean. It represents the blood of those who spilled a sea of it defending your liberty.

While you're on your knee, pray for those that came before you, not on a manicured lawn striped and printed with numbers to announce every inch of ground taken...but on nameless hills and bloodied beaches and sweltering forests and bitter cold mountains...every inch marked by an American life lost serving that flag you protest.

No cheerleaders, no announcers, no coaches, no fans...just American men and women...delivering the real fight against those who chose to harm us...blazing a path so you would have the right to "take a knee."

You haven't an inkling what it took to get you where you are...but your "protest" is duly noted. Not only is it disgraceful to a nation of real heroes, it serves the purpose of pointing to your ingratitude for those who chose to defend you under that banner that will still wave long after your jersey is retired...

If you really feel the need to take a knee, come with me to church on Sunday and we'll both kneel before Almighty God. We'll thank him for preserving this country for as long as He has. We'll beg forgiveness for our ingratitude for all He has provided us. We'll appeal to Him for understanding and wisdom. We'll pray hi is the one who provides those things.

But there will be no protest. There will only be gratitude for His provision and a plea for His continued grace and mercy on the land of the free and the home of the brave. It goes like this...

GOD BLESS AMERICA!

By Stanislaus Drew'
victor809
8 years ago

LOL!
You forgot to mention skin color.

tailgater wrote:



Huh...I just assumed you were being an entitled little twit because you wanted all of them to just shut up and entertain you. I wasn't figuring you only wanted one skin color to shut up and dance.

I guess this is something that was on your mind though
victor809
8 years ago

One thing I know after reading this thread, Zombies will have someone looking after their right to eat brains. Victor will be defending their right to do what they do right up to the point he is caught feeding them homeless guys that pee on his neighborhood light poles.

Gene363 wrote:



1 - depends. do zombies poop? If they do, I'm not trading one useless street ****ter for another.
2 - If they don't poop, then my neighborhood will have the fewest homeless and fattest zombies before anyone were to even consider the concept of zombie rights.
victor809
8 years ago

Like I said before I really DGAF what his opinion is regarding flag etiquette. He's not an American citizen so IMHO his opinion isn't worth a snake turd.

Perhaps you didn't understand what I posted previously. The one thing that every casket bearing remains of a US serviceman or servicewoman have in common is they are ALL draped with the stars and stripes.

IDGAF what people want to protest. Those rights are guaranteed by the first amendment which was bought and paid for with the remains of brave soldiers whose remains were palled with an American flag.

Abrignac wrote:



Meh. I don't generally discount someone's decision-making process simply because they don't live in this country. It isn't like he can't understand the concept of flags.

But regardless, the rights were bought by the lives of servicemen. That means they have rights (and whatever repercussions fall from the exercising of those rights) just as you and I do. I'm not gonna tell someone how they can and cannot exercise their rights.... nor am I really going to get too upset how they exercise them.

Just gonna throw this out there... both protesting at Charlotte VA, and protesting by kneeling during the anthem are examples of exercising ones rights. Which do you think is more offensive to the troops who fought for our country? someone kneeling during the national anthem, or someone waving an american flag while wearing a bunch of nazi symbols? I mean, I know what I think, but maybe I'm missing something.
Mathen
8 years ago
My opinion, not that it matters

As a veteran, I'll defend with my life the right of any American citizen to kneel during the National Anthem. At the same time I'll tell you, that I can't think of a circumstance that would cause me to do it i find it disrespectful, in poor taste, and not an effective means of protest.

You want to bring attention to your cause and get someone like me to support it? There are better ways to do it. You want someone to take a bullet for your right to be an a hole? I raised my hand and wrote Uncle Sam a blank check that said I would defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic over a quarter of century ago and I haven't cancelled that check yet. Nor will I. Ever.

So go be a jack ass if you want. I'm there to let you do that. But if you want to disrespect the blood that my brothers and I have she'd so you can do that, don't expect me to like it
DrMaddVibe
8 years ago

One thing I know after reading this thread, Zombies will have someone looking after their right to eat brains. Victor will be defending their right to do what they do right up to the point he is caught feeding them homeless guys that pee on his neighborhood light poles.

Gene363 wrote:




Georgetown Rugby rules!!!
DrafterX
8 years ago
Wanna know what Hillary thinks.....

In a new interview to promote her book with Zerlina Maxwell for the "SiriusXM Town Hall," set to stream Monday night, Hillary Clinton responded to both President Donald Trump's attacks on NFL players who choose to kneel during the national anthem and the recent revelations that Jared Kushner used a private email account to conduct White House business. "I think it’s deeply troubling that the president would be attacking black athletes for expressing their opinions peacefully," Clinton said, adding, "I just couldn’t help thinking that he has attacked these black athletes for peacefully protesting, but he doesn’t really attack white supremacists, neo-Nazis, Ku Klux Klanners, or Vladimir Putin, who interfered in our election." She said she found the comments particularly disturbing because Trump made his comments during a "desperate" time for the people of Puerto Rico. "I’m not sure he knows that Puerto Ricans are American citizens," Clinton remarked. The former secretary of state also blasted "the hypocrisy of this administration, who knew there was no real scandal," with her private email server, but made it the number one issue of Trump's campaign against her. "It’s just the height of hypocrisy," Clinton said.




Wanna know what I think..?? 😕
JadeRose
8 years ago

Well, I'm not sure you can stand by me then... 🤐

DrafterX wrote:





Tee doesn't want to stand next to you, Drafter. He wants to kneel in front of you.
Abrignac
8 years ago

Meh. I don't generally discount someone's decision-making process simply because they don't live in this country. It isn't like he can't understand the concept of flags.

But regardless, the rights were bought by the lives of servicemen. That means they have rights (and whatever repercussions fall from the exercising of those rights) just as you and I do. I'm not gonna tell someone how they can and cannot exercise their rights.... nor am I really going to get too upset how they exercise them.

Just gonna throw this out there... both protesting at Charlotte VA, and protesting by kneeling during the anthem are examples of exercising ones rights. Which do you think is more offensive to the troops who fought for our country? someone kneeling during the national anthem, or someone waving an american flag while wearing a bunch of nazi symbols? I mean, I know what I think, but maybe I'm missing something.

victor809 wrote:




So then you fully support white supremacists and/or rascists who want to excercise their rights as well.
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