RR you are predictable if nothing else. Where are there dead bodies laying rotting in the streets in the US? Same place as the proof of voter fraud? 🐴

Buckwheat wrote:

I know many people that would've to have their pre-Obama care coverage back. Actual coverage, reasonable out of pocket expenses and affordable prices became a thing of the past after Obamacare.

The SCOTUS is there to interpret the constitulity of casein front of them, not the positive or negative outcome.

Gene363 wrote:

I know many people that would've to have their pre-Obama care coverage back. Actual coverage, reasonable out of pocket expenses and affordable prices became a thing of the past after Obamacare.

The SCOTUS is there to interpret the constitulity of casein front of them, not the positive or negative outcome.

Gene363 wrote:

Has Trump rolled out his replacement heath care plan? It's past two week again....

Brewha wrote:

How about the federal government doesn't roll out a health care plan? If you are over 65, go get on Medicare. Poor? get on Medicaid. Otherwise, go buy a plan like we all did before the ACA debacle.

I don't have a problem with the Feds telling insurance companies that they cannot deny or upcharge for pre-existing conditions, but there is no reason at all that my plan needs to cover gynecological visits and mental health care. I need neither, but have to pay for them.

And yes, I was one of the millions who received a letter saying I had lost my private plan when the ACA was enacted.

Stogie1020 wrote:

but Obama promised that wouldn't happen.... 🤔

DrafterX wrote:

I think even the GOP has realized that Americans want access to low cost health insurance...better than the high cost, low benefits junk plans that were peddled by health insurance companies before Obamacare.

It is unlikely that we'll return to the days when private health insurance companies motivated by profit dictated what people got, pricing the vast majority of average Americans out of the health insurance market. The problem was so severe and pervasive, that ERs became the default medical facilities for those without insurance, putting severe pressures on the system of health care providers, and eventually putting many private medical centers out of business, or at least out of the ER business. It required the government to step in to try to fix the problem...


Ideally, there would be a subsidized basic health care system for all, and a higher tiered private health insurance level for those who want it and are able to pay for it. Otherwise, we'll return to the ER system of medical coverage for those who can't afford health insurance.

Note, there are non-profit medical care providers and health insurance providers who say their models can compete with for-profit private companies: Blue Cross, Blue Shield, Kaiser Permanente are the biggest national systems...most states have their own, independent non-profit health providers

delta1 wrote:

But he did get you a phone right?

Brewha wrote:

Hell No..!! 😠

DrafterX wrote:

I think even the GOP has realized that Americans want access to low cost health insurance...better than the high cost, low benefits junk plans that were peddled by health insurance companies before Obamacare.

It is unlikely that we'll return to the days when private health insurance companies motivated by profit dictated what people got, pricing the vast majority of average Americans out of the health insurance market. The problem was so severe and pervasive, that ERs became the default medical facilities for those without insurance, putting severe pressures on the system of health care providers, and eventually putting many private medical centers out of business, or at least out of the ER business. It required the government to step in to try to fix the problem...


Ideally, there would be a subsidized basic health care system for all, and a higher tiered private health insurance level for those who want it and are able to pay for it. Otherwise, we'll return to the ER system of medical coverage for those who can't afford health insurance.

Note, there are non-profit medical care providers and health insurance providers who say their models can compete with for-profit private companies: Blue Cross, Blue Shield, Kaiser Permanente are the biggest national systems...most states have their own, independent non-profit health providers

delta1 wrote:

How about the federal government doesn't roll out a health care plan? If you are over 65, go get on Medicare. Poor? get on Medicaid. Otherwise, go buy a plan like we all did before the ACA debacle.

I don't have a problem with the Feds telling insurance companies that they cannot deny or upcharge for pre-existing conditions, but there is no reason at all that my plan needs to cover gynecological visits and mental health care. I need neither, but have to pay for them.

And yes, I was one of the millions who received a letter saying I had lost my private plan when the ACA was enacted.

Stogie1020 wrote:

I may be just one data point, but I had better, cheaper coverage (and deductibles) prior to ACA with a plan from BCBS. My ACA plan had higher premiums, lower coverages and higher deductibles. So there.

Stogie1020 wrote:

I may be just one data point, but I had better, cheaper coverage (and deductibles) prior to ACA with a plan from BCBS. My ACA plan had higher premiums, lower coverages and higher deductibles. So there.

Stogie1020 wrote: