See... I KNEW hotmail was AFU. Stupid hotmail!! Glad I got another address. Got it at my adelphia addy. Thanks.

Try these two, I'm sorry.

[email protected]
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I apologize for the problem with hotmail.

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RDC, could you also send me the video? Thanks!
hnoyin at yahoo dot com

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thanks!

Thanks.

Now that you have seen it. What are your thoughts?

I just seen it. I am sick to my stomach. I can't believe it. Just the way they did it.

Don't want the video - already have enough things that keep me up at night. Is the media making too much of a few poorly trained MPs screwing up? Yeah. But that is what makes us different that the terrorist who killed Mr. Berg. When we find dirty shorts at the bottom of our clothes hamper, we pull them out, hold them up to the light, let everyone see them and then proceed to wash them so we don't have anymore dirty shorts. Americans are different than anyone else on the planet. We examine our mistakes (in public), we take responsiblity for our errors. We don't whitewash it or cover it up. It's what makes us the leader of the world. Politicians (Dems and Reps) will always exploit these types of issues for short term political gain. What makes us special is, as a nation, we don't pay much attention to the politicians or the media in such matters. We make up our own minds.

IMHO the reason there is such a media storm over the MPs and little coverage of the Berg murder is that we are shocked that our troops could do the things they did, but not shocked at all by the brutality and savage nature of people who kill their own children in the name of Allah!

I watched. These are medieval people and they will only stop when they are dead, or everyone else is.


And their public relations advisor is way overpaid.

RDC-

cayman2b
hotmail

thanx

MDavis,

I agree 100% with the first paragraph of your post. However, I have to take issue with the second graph.

Why are Americans so SHOCKED by the Abu Graib photographs that depict the same scenes played out in fraternity/sorority houses every day?

I don't think the vast majority of us are TRULY all that shocked. The media have jumped on the story because it contains lurid sexual details that generate ratings.

What happened to Nick Berg is absolutely monstrous and shouldn't be mentioned in the same story as Abu Graib.

We're esentially comparing "pranks" in which nobody is hurt to the most horrific, anamalistic murder most of us (hopefully) have ever witnessed.

We further dishonor Nick Berg by bringing him into the Abu Graib furor.

It sickened me. F*** those people. F*** every last one of them. We should leave Iraq right now. And as soon as we are out... INCOMING!! I ain't talkin' tomahawks either. I'm talking Hiroshima and Nagasaki on a grander scale.

For those of you who think my reaction is over the top, compare the two... Japan attacked a Naval Base at Pearl Harbor and then fought us straight up, military to military and we nuked the crap outa them... these cowards killed CIVILIANS and then just beheaded another one with a friggin' knife!

They need to be taught a lesson in nuclear physics.

I'm sorry, but I am outraged.

RDC -

Twas my mistake on my email address. Please try again,

"eff" "jay" "doubleyew" at hiwaay dot net

Thanks.

Any one hear the lastest on Nick Berg? Of course, Ascroft says there is no link ...

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/05/11/iraq/main616842.shtml 

CBS News National Security Correspondent David Martin reports U.S. officials said the FBI questioned Berg, a 26-year-old American civilian who was beheaded in Iraq, in 2002 after a computer password Berg used in college turned up in the possession of Zacarias Moussaoui, the al Qaeda operative arrested shortly before Sept. 11 for his suspicious activity at a flight school in Minnesota.

Moussaoui is now in federal custody and awaiting trial on conspiracy charges stemming from the Sept. 11 attacks.

The 2002 investigation determined that an e-mail address once used by Berg apparently was obtained by the Moussaoui acquaintances while Berg was briefly an engineering student at the University of Oklahoma in 1999.

I don't know how much of this is true ... but makes one really wonder what he was doing there in the first place.

RDC, can you do one more please. woodbutchr at yahoo dot com

This whole thing is getting weird. The fact that this guy was in custody with the Iraqi police, that the FBI visited him three times in jail, the fact that he has a link to 9/11 terrorists. No one deserves to die like this, but something strange is going on with this dude. More than anyone is letting on. Maybe he is CIA? Maybe a double agent?

Whomever he was, and just what role he played in all this ... the CIA did a voice analyasis on the guy who did the beheading ...

... and they are almost positive that it is Osama bin Laden's closest associate Abu Musab al-Zarqawi ... and the second most wanted person ...

I think that he was beheaded for reasons other than just revenge for the stuff some of our military did to those prisoners ... and they used that as an opportunity to use that as a way to bring on more turmoil.

Rich, doittome1959(at)aol.com