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Here is a photo of the Boston Busing Riots in 1974.

As I previously mentioned, my Dad took a promotion to the area, and we moved from GA to MA. (Thank goodness he got another promotion 10 months later & we moved back below the Mason-Dixon Line).

But moving from GA to MA in the early 70's, with all the civil rights issues just barely passed, the extreme ethnic healings & racial harmony that took place in Atlanta, witnessing the Boston Bus Riots was a shock.

Seeing how the north loved to preach to re south about the former racial divide, was quite telling.

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2009/01/31/its_time_to_end_busing_in_boston/

Avoid the issue all you want... You've stated that slavery has had no effect on anyone other than those who were slaves... That's not an opinion any more than believing 1+1=7 is an opinion... It's lunacy because it denies established facts...

By your logic, the holocaust had no effect on the Jews, other than those who lived through and suffered it... Again, lunacy because it denies established facts...

Usually I stay out of these things, and I'm aware I'm coming off as harsh, but I find it disturbing that someone who is able to read and write can hold the opinion you do...

I've heard Germans downplay the severity and far reaching, long last effects of the holocaust and it's sickening... And the way you talk about slavery and the imagined burden today's black community has is equally as sickening to me...

You should be less generous.... I read what you said, understood it, and it's still ignorant thinking...

Out of curiosity, when's the last time you had a black man in your house that you weren't paying to be there?

If a black man came and sat next to you at church would you get up and move?

Do any black people go to your church? Do you know any of them? You should go share this line of thinking with them and see what they think...

All this talk about the conduct of union soldiers while in Georgia, I'm reminded of when they went through Carrollton, GA ... (Where I went to West Georgia College), and when union troops visited the fine folks of that town, they not only destroyed all furniture of people's homes, burned several houses, stole all the jewelry, food, provisions, farm equipments and women's clothing. What's odd about this story is that there were so many union soldiers that day in women's dresses, they finally had to be all reprimanded to remove their dresses and then put back on their uniforms.

Damn Yankees. All the south wanted to do is be friends.

I wonder how many times jet has worn a dress.

I wish you could see me laughing in your face, you have achieved a new level of asinine assumption.

I am (not) sorry to disappoint your narrow minded bigoted brain, but I don't keep a count of the color of guests in my home. As a matter of fact, I came to my position after discussing this with several black people, most agree and some did not. They were friends, coworkers, and one was my manager at the time.

I must also point out you are again resorting to a personal attack when I do not agree to your failed arguments.

Now, you tell me your answer to the above questions, or is it that, you have no blacks in your area, because they 'chose' not to live there.

I bet the rugby team has a Brony night too....

Rugby is a tolerant sport. But nobody likes bronies. nobody.

Y'all have taugh me something.


I just don't have the stamina to go round and round with y'all.

I've yet to see an opinion change around here. It's like yelling at brick walls.

Is rugby tolerant because you tolerate some other guy grabbing you crotch, because he is trying to get your ball ?

Never tolerate someone stripping you of your ball. They try that, elbow them in the nose.

I agree, so that makes this wrong.

First, good to see ya, hope you feel better.

I am not going to refute the words of your friend, but I am always amused when white people quote "a" person of a minority be it Black, Asian, Gay, whatever...as though it's a statement that speaks for or at the entire race/group.

Try considering this without smiling and nodding..."Hey! I have a white friend who said blah blah blah about what white people need/want"...as though it rings true for all whites.

Whatever quote inserted, it would sound idiotic.

Jet, you were pretty close to the action, about 40 miles west of the real troubled neighborhoods. I lived in the suburbs of Boston (as I do still) and would like to comment on your north/south comparison, indulge me. I admit I did not read your link.

There is no possible justification for the violence that broke out, for the vitriol that spewed forth, for the ugliness that stained the City of Boston...98.2% perpetrated by white citizens. I will not justify any of it, but I may take a stab at defining differences in creating what happened here.

Civil Rights had been the law for a while when a judge (Garrity IIRC) determined that Boston Public Schools were segregated in violation of the law and needed to forcibly be integrated. Everyone from here knew why they were segregated, it was because of the racial make-up of the neighborhoods. How that happened is an interesting story for another time, but for many people, they just wanted to live in ethnic similar areas, with schools they chose to live near. Understandable that families may try to choose the schools to live near.

Regardless of how they were formed, there was a strong Italian section, Irish, Polish etc, and after tons of migration from job seekers leaving the south, Black neighborhoods emerged, with a factor of "white flight" too.

But the black and white schools were far from equal, the Boston School Committee clearly had racist members among the group, and very little was done to improve schools in Black neighborhoods. They were separate, but not even "separate but equal".

So suddenly busing happens, as much to integrate as it was to (hopefully) allow for equal quality education in a system that was still good at the time. The original outcry was not about mixing races at all despite what you may have perceived as a youth. It was about families choosing neighborhoods partly based on local schools and being forced to bus across town. Hell, we moved into an area of my town because we knew the elementary school was superior. It would have been very upsetting to be forced into another, lesser school.

Obviously protests eventually morphed into racial taunting, rocks thrown at buses of black children became the story nationally, and all of it was sickening. But most of the ugliness was well choreographed by organized racist factions. Many other residents, black and white, also opposed forced busing yet supported equal education and would have preferred to work on solving that problem in a fair and peaceful way.

And yet others actually supported forcibly enforcing the law of the land. What they got was a terrible school system left in the wake, with a reverse of the racial make-up.

I guess I am saying it wasn't a culture of racism born of slavery, accepting of the premise of black inferiority in the eyes of God, developed over many generations as in the South that motivated this embarrassment. Rather it began as a protest to losing one's neighborhood school, and hideously was captured by REAL true disgusting violent racists.

Well frank, it's a famous photo from the protests of a white guy getting ready to impale a black guy with an American Flag. Very strong photo.

Thanks for the history lesson, but to see that happening as a 11 y/o kid from the South was shocking.

Don't get me wrong. I *Love* Boston. After I got on with the airlines, it was always a favorite place to day-trip too. I used to fly up to Logan all the time, just to bring home fresh lobstah for dinner.

Plus, I still have an autograph baseball from the entire '73 Red Sox ...

Pay close attention to exactly WHO it is calling for removing the dastardly rebel flags - its not the people rioting in Ferguson, and there simply is no rioting in Charleston, if fact they're quite the opposite.

Its the media and politicians - both of which are horrendously corrupt.

Ask yourself who benefits from the division here.

Mmmmmmmm, no one, Alex, for the win.

Tatnuck?
Prove it:
How do you pronounce Worcester?

War-chest-ter

Of course. Duh.

Nope.

True locals just say Wistah.

And nobody uses three syllables.

Break it into two words:

Worcester
Worce + Ster

Say it fast and drop the R sounds.

While appalled by shooting, it was very gratifying to see the reaction in Charleston. I wish the news would have shown more pictures of the crown walking across the Ravenel Bridge.

https://youtu.be/85C5XEv9Atk

heard excellent coverage of encouraging news about Charleston on public radio last week. Talk of West African slaves brought there because of their expertise growing rice and how they have become part of the fabric of the area...education, politics, all segments of society.

Some talk of handling this current situation for them too. Feeling like they have to actually be better than whites to be considered as good, some great quote about the shooter entering the wrong church in an attempt to ignite a war between the races.

I love American success stories, even if they never intended to come here!

Thanks Frank. I am feeling much better.

I never said he was speaking for an entire race. He was in fact speaking for himself. My point was much simpler. But, if one pays attention to what he said, they will see the wisdom in his words. His point was that as long as a segment of society blames another segment of society then they should not expect that segment of society that they blame to welcome them with open arms. His view was that more progress would be made if those groups work together to improve the quality of life for all. Pretty worldly words from the former mayor of a town of 1225+ residents.

Think of it this way, as long as someone points the finger at someone else, no problem will ever be solved. Not to mention Newton's law regarding actions that cause equal and opposite reactions.