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MACS Offline
#151 Posted: Tue, Jun 23 2020, 7:12 PM EST
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Shorts and a tank top is the uniform of the day in Hawaii... what else would you be wearing?

That's what I usually wore in the Philippines... shorts, tank top and flip flops.
Palama Offline
#152 Posted: Tue, Jun 23 2020, 7:31 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
Shorts and a tank top is the uniform of the day in Hawaii... what else would you be wearing?

That's what I usually wore in the Philippines... shorts, tank top and flip flops.


True dat!

The last time I wore long pants and shoes musta been in mid-March.

That reminds me, I need to thin out my dress socks....
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#153 Posted: Tue, Jun 23 2020, 7:37 PM EST
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Making Chicken Picatta served over angel hair pasta for dinner. Side of fresh cut green beans, and roasted rice cauliflower for my wife.
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#154 Posted: Tue, Jun 23 2020, 7:40 PM EST
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danmdevries wrote:
I've been shopping outside my immediate area, cause theres nothing here. Went to eastern and Central Indiana. Dont want to shop IL with their 10% sales tax but did look at two out that way. One was a used rental, the other just didn't fit my needs, 2wd and long bed.

But twice I've driven an hour plus to find the truck is gone, but listing still active. Yesterday the dealer told me they had the truck, only for me to drive 2 hours and have them offer me a Tundra, the Cummins I went to look at sold 2 days prior.

Going back to work for a week tonight. The search is on hold. Resume next Wednesday


They don't make you pay the IL state sales tax even if it's bought out of state?

Here in MA when you register it, you have to pay the difference between the sales tax from where you bought it and the MA sales tax which ever is higher.

It's even better than that. If, for example, you bought the vehicle from a friend, family member or whoever who wanted to get rid of the car and sold it to you under book value the state will make you pay sales tax based on their book value and not what you actually paid.

Book Value

The amount taxed on casual sales (non-dealer sales) is based on the higher of:

- The actual amount paid for the vehicle, or
- The clean trade-in value of the vehicle adjusted by either the high mileage adjustment (decreases value) or the low mileage adjustment (increases value)

The Registry of Motor Vehicles (RMV) properly adjusts for mileage at the time of registration. Value adjustments based on the mechanical or structural condition of the motor vehicle are not considered under current sales/use tax law. For example, if the car engine or doors need replacing, the vehicle's book value will not be adjusted.

https://www.mass.gov/guides/motor-vehicle-sales-and-use-tax

So your next question might be: What if I paid over book value or bought in a state that has higher sales tax than MA, do I get a refund on the sales tax?

Hint: it's a rhetorical question
MACS Offline
#155 Posted: Tue, Jun 23 2020, 8:21 PM EST
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I'm shocked that CA doesn't do that.
danmdevries Offline
#156 Posted: Tue, Jun 23 2020, 9:08 PM EST
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BuckyB93 wrote:
They don't make you pay the IL state sales tax even if it's bought out of state?

Here in MA when you register it, you have to pay the difference between the sales tax from where you bought it and the MA sales tax which ever is higher.

It's even better than that. If, for example, you bought the vehicle from a friend, family member or whoever who wanted to get rid of the car and sold it to you under book value the state will make you pay sales tax based on their book value and not what you actually paid.

Book Value

The amount taxed on casual sales (non-dealer sales) is based on the higher of:

- The actual amount paid for the vehicle, or
- The clean trade-in value of the vehicle adjusted by either the high mileage adjustment (decreases value) or the low mileage adjustment (increases value)

The Registry of Motor Vehicles (RMV) properly adjusts for mileage at the time of registration. Value adjustments based on the mechanical or structural condition of the motor vehicle are not considered under current sales/use tax law. For example, if the car engine or doors need replacing, the vehicle's book value will not be adjusted.

https://www.mass.gov/guides/motor-vehicle-sales-and-use-tax

So your next question might be: What if I paid over book value or bought in a state that has higher sales tax than MA, do I get a refund on the sales tax?

Hint: it's a rhetorical question


Up until two? years ago you'd pay sales tax in the state you registered if you bought in IL. But since IL is broke, they changed it and you pay IL sales tax on vehicles purchased there and they give you a form to bring to DMV for the registration state to collect your state's tax from IL. Since IL is higher than anywhere else, they still get to keep some of the money.
BuckyB93 Offline
#157 Posted: Tue, Jun 23 2020, 9:42 PM EST
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I like the fact that MA doesn't take in account any mechanical or structural damage to the vehicle when applying value of to it. You can buy a used car that blew a head gasket or pistons slammed into the valves and needs a total engine replacement but that doesn't figure into their estimates on their book value.

I've not had to deal with it and I'm sure there's some form you could fill out and submit to dispute there assessment but I don't suspect that it's all that straight forward and easy to do.

Here, in MA, the RMV is an entity of it's own. They even don't have to follow judge rulings. If your license is revoked for any number of reasons (OUI, at fault accidents, excessive moving violations, some felony charges...) and you go to court and found not guilty for the infractions they don't have to reinstate your license. You can get the judge to write a letter to the RMV to get your license reinstated but the are not bound to do so. The only way is to have another hearing with a RMV itself.

Primus pretty much sums it up...

I've been to hell. I spell it, I spell it DMV
Anyone that's been there knows precisely what I mean
Stood there and I've waited and choked back the urge to scream
And if I had my druthers I'd screw a chimpanzee-call it pointless

https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=5M_jh4CA8a8
Mcdanielsamuel Offline
#158 Posted: Tue, Jun 23 2020, 9:57 PM EST
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Played some softball this evening. Was good to see some old friends. Icing the hammy now. Hope I can walk tomorrow.
BuckyB93 Offline
#159 Posted: Tue, Jun 23 2020, 10:08 PM EST
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HA!

I remember going ice skating with the kids last year. Used some muscles that have not been used in a long time. I was sore for days. Sucks getting old.
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#160 Posted: Tue, Jun 23 2020, 10:48 PM EST
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icing the hammy?
that's a new one.
your secret is safe with us.
danmdevries Offline
#161 Posted: Wed, Jun 24 2020, 1:17 AM EST
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HHD Ram n dudes
rfenst Offline
#162 Posted: Wed, Jun 24 2020, 5:41 AM EST
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Morning.
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#163 Posted: Wed, Jun 24 2020, 6:26 AM EST
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Speyside Offline
#164 Posted: Wed, Jun 24 2020, 7:14 AM EST
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2 tranquil days next. Spending 2 days at a private home on a Caribbean island. We watched a glorious sunrise this morning.
danmdevries Offline
#165 Posted: Wed, Jun 24 2020, 7:23 AM EST
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Nice spey.

rfenst Offline
#166 Posted: Wed, Jun 24 2020, 7:28 AM EST
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Speyside wrote:
2 tranquil days next. Spending 2 days at a private home on a Caribbean island. We watched a glorious sunrise this morning.

Where have you been and where are you now?
MACS Offline
#167 Posted: Wed, Jun 24 2020, 7:28 AM EST
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I'm up far too early...
deadeyedick Offline
#168 Posted: Wed, Jun 24 2020, 7:29 AM EST
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For a little women the wifey sure can saw some logs. I'm up but woozy.
corey sellers Offline
#169 Posted: Wed, Jun 24 2020, 7:48 AM EST
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Morning gents
rfenst Offline
#170 Posted: Wed, Jun 24 2020, 8:11 AM EST
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deadeyedick wrote:
For a little women the wifey sure can saw some logs. I'm up but woozy.

Drink too much?
Ram27 Offline
#171 Posted: Wed, Jun 24 2020, 8:32 AM EST
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danmdevries wrote:
HHD Ram n dudes






You as well danm.
Speyside Offline
#172 Posted: Wed, Jun 24 2020, 9:53 AM EST
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Florida keys, Tonga, Figi, Puerto Rico.
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#173 Posted: Wed, Jun 24 2020, 10:07 AM EST
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Excavator and skid loader dropped off before I came home.

I had to hand dig a 10ft trench 2ft deep to locate my electric cable to the coop. Ran my metal detector and marked it, but was hitting in two places. Cable ended up being right between the two lines I marked...

I gotta go to bed though, but they've already put in a line from the septic tank and out beyond the shed. Theyre starting to dig out the field in the woods. Said I'm probably going to kill about 20 trees once they destroy the roots. Theyre all 100ft trees, so probably gonna need to pay to drop those if they do die...

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#174 Posted: Wed, Jun 24 2020, 11:11 AM EST
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danmdevries wrote:
Excavator and skid loader dropped off before I came home.

I had to hand dig a 10ft trench 2ft deep to locate my electric cable to the coop. Ran my metal detector and marked it, but was hitting in two places. Cable ended up being right between the two lines I marked...

I gotta go to bed though, but they've already put in a line from the septic tank and out beyond the shed. Theyre starting to dig out the field in the woods. Said I'm probably going to kill about 20 trees once they destroy the roots. Theyre all 100ft trees, so probably gonna need to pay to drop those if they do die...



No value in having them cut down? Out here companies pay to get the trees for lumber.
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#175 Posted: Wed, Jun 24 2020, 11:35 AM EST
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Sh#t, danm is usually paying other people for their firewood. Sounds like he would need to keep it
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#176 Posted: Wed, Jun 24 2020, 11:37 AM EST
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that would be cool... around here it's expensive to have a tree removed.. depending on surroundings.. I've dropped a bunch but sometimes you need a lift and stuff... Mellow
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#177 Posted: Wed, Jun 24 2020, 11:43 AM EST
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My dad had a 5 acre place in Washington near Puget Sound. Some of the trees were cedar and as much as 4-5 ft diameter at the base. He regularly had people coming buy offering $$ thousands to cut some of them. He never sold any.
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#178 Posted: Wed, Jun 24 2020, 11:52 AM EST
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I heard TW tried to sell his wood for awhile... turns out he was a better catcher tho.... Mellow
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#179 Posted: Wed, Jun 24 2020, 12:05 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
I heard TW tried to sell his wood for awhile... turns out he was a better catcher tho.... Mellow


When you're selling it at $5 a board foot, he's only getting $0.50 .....
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#180 Posted: Wed, Jun 24 2020, 12:16 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
When you're selling it at $5 a board foot, he's only getting $0.50 .....


And thats in the "on" position so I hear.
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#181 Posted: Wed, Jun 24 2020, 2:06 PM EST
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It's been dropped multiple times from decent heights, the screen is shattered in a thousand places, it's been in a lake and a swimming pool, and ya know what finally killed my phone? I took the sim card out and put it back in... d'oh!

Strongly considering not replacing it...
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#182 Posted: Wed, Jun 24 2020, 3:27 PM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
It's been dropped multiple times from decent heights, the screen is shattered in a thousand places, it's been in a lake and a swimming pool, and ya know what finally killed my phone? I took the sim card out and put it back in... d'oh!

Strongly considering not replacing it...

Prepay for a year on a MVNO and save hundreds. Or save even more with no phone at all.
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#183 Posted: Wed, Jun 24 2020, 3:36 PM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
It's been dropped multiple times from decent heights, the screen is shattered in a thousand places, it's been in a lake and a swimming pool, and ya know what finally killed my phone? I took the sim card out and put it back in... d'oh!

Strongly considering not replacing it...


That's cuz the gov't sets them to self destruct once you take the trackable sim card out.
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#184 Posted: Wed, Jun 24 2020, 3:48 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
that's CUZ the G.O.V.T. sets tHem to sElf DestRUCt oNce You TAKE the tRaCKable S.I.M. card out.

fify
MACS Offline
#185 Posted: Wed, Jun 24 2020, 4:05 PM EST
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I still have an iPhone 8.
Ram27 Offline
#186 Posted: Wed, Jun 24 2020, 4:07 PM EST
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victor809 Offline
#187 Posted: Wed, Jun 24 2020, 4:08 PM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
fify

LoL
Ram27 Offline
#188 Posted: Wed, Jun 24 2020, 4:10 PM EST
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Revisiting Ozark just about through season one, nothing else to watch.
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#189 Posted: Wed, Jun 24 2020, 4:21 PM EST
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I finished that Space force... it was cute. Nothing stellar, but amusing. And no, I didn't see any reference to why she was in prison.
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#190 Posted: Wed, Jun 24 2020, 4:24 PM EST
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Macs is a he and he wasn't "in prison", he worked at a jail... D1ck...
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#191 Posted: Wed, Jun 24 2020, 4:27 PM EST
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Ram27 wrote:
Revisiting Ozark just about through season one, nothing else to watch.

You ever watch Homeland on Showtime? Good series, 8 seasons.
victor809 Offline
#192 Posted: Wed, Jun 24 2020, 4:28 PM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
Macs is a he and he wasn't "in prison", he worked at a jail... D1ck...


I don't know if we can say any of those things with certainty.
MACS Offline
#193 Posted: Wed, Jun 24 2020, 4:37 PM EST
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It was a part time job, man... we worked half days... 12 hours.
Ram27 Offline
#194 Posted: Wed, Jun 24 2020, 4:54 PM EST
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Stogie, yes have Showtime and your right great show.
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#195 Posted: Wed, Jun 24 2020, 4:56 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
I still have an iPhone 8.

I still had an iPhone SE until a couple months ago.
cacman Offline
#196 Posted: Wed, Jun 24 2020, 5:09 PM EST
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I don't even own a cell phone.
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#197 Posted: Wed, Jun 24 2020, 5:15 PM EST
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Fell asleep quickly once I finally made it to bed around 1030.

But woke up at 3pm for no reason. Didn't even have to pee, just woke up.

Gonna be a long night.
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#198 Posted: Wed, Jun 24 2020, 6:50 PM EST
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deadeyedick wrote:
No value in having them cut down? Out here companies pay to get the trees for lumber.

danm's got rubber trees
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#199 Posted: Wed, Jun 24 2020, 8:39 PM EST
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Bbq bacon cheeseburgers, fries, and homemade cookies n cream ice cream in a sugar cone... and now time for a swim...
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#200 Posted: Wed, Jun 24 2020, 8:59 PM EST
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had chili dogs and corn on the cob for lunch...

then a pool party...SIL's mother came over with three of her grandkids, SIL's brother's kids...played in the pool and jacuzzi for a few hours...thermometer hit 95

I'm beat
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