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Ok, lets try this again, because your vague-ness is irritating.

Identify a single thing which I have stated here that identifies me, in your less than sophisticated mind, as "progressive".

I'll bite... wtf are you talking about?

I have questions...

What agents did you pay and what were their qualifications as research specialists?

You tried to find where people tried to underestimate collective intelligence of the populace and failed and you turned up short? lol wat?

Let me get this straight, with your hired agents, you were unable to find any case where plans of would be exploiters failed due to their underestimation of the average intelligence of people?

Do you even read the sh*t you wrote after you wrote it, or just assume it's gold?

It's clear you're stringing a bunch of bullets together trying to come to some sort of twisted logical conclusion, but when your individual bullet points are incoherent and filled with obvious fallacies, how is anyone supposed to take you serious?

I've been out of the game for a minute, but apparently we've moved on from libtards and leftists, and moved on to progressives.

So I'm confused, if progressives are not necessarily democrats, but could also be independents and *gulp* even conservatives... then you are saying that you think anyone that doesn't think exactly like you... in that they should be stuck in old schools of thought (the antithesis to progress), then they are blind... uneducated... foolish? I know you hate progressives, but I'm not sure exactly why.

Here's some bullets that I got from your last post:

* You hate progressives
* You hate democracies
* You hate independents
* You hate Teddy Roosevelt
* You hate right leaning people that look towards the future, instead of dwelling on the past.
* You would rather be back in the old days of Thomas Jefferson... which I can logically conclude that you would be ok going back in time to a civilization that murdered savages and enslaved dark people... because those guys really knew how to handle all situations, even though they never heard of a shopping mall, mega corporation, cell phone, (or any phone for that matter). So you're a simple man, who would like to enjoy the simpler things of times long since passed.

So there you go, some bullet soup, in bullet form. When we look at your posts, that's kinda what we see...

To be fair to the idiot, he was directly quoting Menken. So you're kinda just arguing with a dead journalist here.

I don't disagree with you.... doesn't say much when the only coherent thing in his post was someone else's words.

I think Ray Ray lives in his parent's basement and refuses to come out other than to visit the outhouse because it would be progressive.

Pretty sure Shapiro is an idiot. But RayRay may still think he's a progressive... that seems to be a very broad brush

I dunno man, I've seen some quotes and videos from him. Not sure about that. He might have been on his best behavior for Rogan.... I'll try to dig some stuff up

Found a site that collects his quotes... some of these are gold:

"If you pay tuition, you're sponsoring the militant homosexual agenda. If you pay taxes, you're sponsoring the militant homosexual agenda. If your child majors in English, you're sponsoring the militant homosexual agenda"

"Israelis like to build. Arabs like to bomb crap and live in open sewage. This is not a difficult issue. #settlementsrock"

"Is Donald Trump the best Republican candidate for president out there? It would be tough to argue otherwise. He's got all the makings of a breakout star; he's got bravado and the cash to back it up"

"Renewable energy: dumbest phrase since climate change. See the first law of thermodynamics, dumbass."
(I find this one particularly reprehensible, as it's showing a misunderstanding of physics as well)

"There certainly is a war on Christianity, it’s coming from some people who are secular Jews, it’s coming from a lot of leftists. Most Jews in America don’t care about Judaism"

"Conservatives used to care too much about values and republicanism to buy ends-justify-the-means logic. But it increasingly appears that political expedience now outweighs basic morality. At least one side of the political spectrum seemed to care about truth. Now both sides are competing to see who can race to the bottom fastest."
(I mean, I get where he's coming from at the end here, but the fantasy that republicans were honest in his lifetime is laughable)

"So let's say — let's say for the sake of argument that all the water levels around the world rise by, let's say, five feet over the next hundred years, say ten feet over the next hundred years, and it puts all the low-lying areas on the coast underwater. Which — let's say all of that happens. You think that people aren't going to just sell their homes and move?"
heh.... yeah. That' property's gonna be super valuable underwater.

"You can't magically change your gender. You can’'t magically change your sex. You can’t magically change your age"
File this one under "unintentionally pro trans"?

"Okay, well, the fact is that if you had to work more than one job to have a roof over your head or food on the table, you probably shouldn't have taken the job that's not paying you enough. That'd be a you problem."

"There was a national apology for slavery. It was called the Civil War where 700,000 Americans died."
(I think the most insulting part of this statement is that he included the South in American Casualties)

And the best....
"Meanwhile, the polarization of the American public continues apace with wokescolds doing their best to ruin every aspect of American life. I'm very excited that Merriam-Webster Dictionary has now added the non-binary pronoun they to the dictionary. Because when I look at a book for definitions of words, what I want is a made-up definition of a word that has never been used this way in all of human history: a plural noun, used as a singular noun, to refer to a singular gender. We're gonna use a plural noun, and Merriam-Webster is gonna go along with this, which just demonstrates once and for all that logic has gone out the window. People are tailoring science to meet politically correct demands, people are tailoring language to meet politically correct demands."

Meh.... you can like him. I still look at him as part of the problem (honestly, all "political commentators" are at this point however.)

Your writing style is a bit cryptic, so I can't really tell... but it looks like you're a proponent of not allowing certain people to vote.

.... So you're missing punctuation. I think. But I think you're saying you're not a proponent of democracy.

Also, you need to stop quoting people. I don't care what some political commentator has to say. It's irrelevant. If I'm having a discussion with them, then that's great. You're not Menken, or Ostowroski or whoever. Quoting someone else's political opinion is intellectually dishonest. It implies you agree with them, but gives you enough space to back away from any statement when another person points out the issues in it.

I've been digging professor Victor Davis Hanson, Senior fellow at the Hoover institute. Yeah his name is Victor but don't hold that against him. Dude's brilliant!
Check out his podcast, articles, books for some serious thinking. You don't have to be a con to be edified by genius.
Been wanting to quote and vouch for him for a minute. Any thoughts on this guy?

So you're saying it's only ok to totally agree with someone, otherwise you must demonize them?

I would hope that's not what you mean, but that's the way it comes off.

Ok I looked this victor guy up. He sounds terrible.
He wrote the book The Case for Trump?
He apparently also pretended to have a "talk" with his kids about needing to be careful of black people in the inner city?

Why would you think this is a "brilliant" person?

I'm fine with disagreeing with people on some things.

But to feel so strongly about needing to have trump as president as to write an entire book? Nah.
And the context on the letter was as a response to an actual issue black parents have to have with their children. His response screams petty and self serving. I have trouble believing that's the product of a brilliant mind.

Interestingly, he apparently diverges from Jared Diamond in one of his more popular books. I've never read Hansen's Carnage and Culture, but I have read Diamond's Guns, Germs and Steel.... the two books apparently do not have complementary theories.

I think all you religious people should crowd into churches. God will protect you and trump will stand behind you - far behind you. Covid is a hoax- go to church and sing as loud as you can.

There isn't a great answer.
But it also isn't really a religion question.

I mean... the government isn't stopping anyone from praying. or from having zoom church. A lot of other organizations which rely on large group gatherings have been improvising... (conventions, schools etc). And as long as a church is treated in the same manner as other gatherings, I'm not sure I see a problem. So maybe if churches held their sermons outside with everyone wearing masks.

Maybe you should listen to Gilbert Godfried instead.

especially when he critiques people who "pigeon hole people into simple caricatures" and fails to see that quality in his own writing

more important and far more difficult than begging and praying for forgiveness (so easy when facing the fear of death) and promising to be soooo good next year...

is forgiving, truly and deeply and totally purging ourselves of those feelings we harbor toward those that have done wrong by us.

That is the real challenge of the Days of Awe, those ten days of introspection. Use them wisely, if you truly believe.

You can confess almost every day of the year. The Ten Days are different. Don't confuse them with your ideas for the nation to repent.

Shalom.

Ok... this is just too funny.
You say you don't "pigeon hole" people into simple caricatures. But you've called almost every poster on this thread, along with, I think, every person they've referenced, as a "progressive".

You do realize that labeling everyone as "progressive" and then making all sorts of claims about how the "progressive mind" works is .... dun - dun... "pigeon holing"?

Ray Ray, just how long were you locked up in that outhouse before you found your way here ?

Tony, why the vindictiveness? Have I insulted your secular religion of Progressivism too much?
As usual, when pushed up against the wall the Progressive attacks the person, not the argument.

So you are saying the founding fathers were the worst sort and you believe the founding of the United States was wrong?

Who are you talking too and what are your talking about?