CelticBomber wrote:Your reply
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What "it" shouldn't matter if "others" did "it"?
Again you call me a hypocrite. Even though I stated I don't care if it is a Democrat or Republican who breaks the law, they should be prosecuted. The Republicans controlled the House and Senate. It's my fault they didn't do anything to investigate crimes that so far exist only in your head. If they wanted to, the Republicans could have done anything they wanted to investigate Hillary, Obama, Steele, or Mickey friggin Mouse. But, they didn't. So write your congressman and ask him why. It's not my fault. I personally think the Clinton's are dirty as hell and got away with a ton of crap that should have been thoroughly investigated.
You have a double standard going. Hillary et al are guilty and got away with it even though you have no real proof. Just a lot of rhetoric from both sides. Trump himself said to Hillary's face he would have her thrown in jail for what she did. But, nothing happened.
On the other hand we have Trump. How many of his inner circle now sit in prison or are still awaiting the outcome of indictments? Trump handed Kim Jong Un a political coup just by meeting with him and got nothing but a photo op and then said and I quote
"I was really being tough and so was he," Trump said. "And we would go back and forth. And then we fell in love. No really. He wrote me beautiful letters."
"They were great letters. And then we fell in love,"
Meanwhile millions starve to death or are executed in slave camp's in North Korea. Trump is repeating Russian propaganda that it was the Ukraine that interfered with our elections when we have PICTURES of the building in St. Petersburg where the whole online operation was traced back to. You, yourself, stated "By no means am I saying there wasn’t a quid pro quo. Just that it hasn’t been proven so far". That's what the investigation is all about. Finding out if there is enough proof to warrant an Impeachment. What exactly have I got twisted?
Presidents and Presidential candidates have a history of taking donations and/or giving favorable treatment to regimes with terrible human rights records.Quote:When Clinton first took office in 2008, the foundation disclosed that Saudi Arabia donated between $10 to $25 million, with some donations coming as recently as 2014 when Clinton prepared her run for the presidency. The foundation received an additional $1 to $5 million donation from the “Friends of Saudi Arabia,” which was cofounded by a Saudi prince. Critics question the ethics of taking such vast sums of money from individuals and a government with one of the worst human rights records in the world.
Quote:Emails released by WikiLeaks, in a likely attempt to influence the U.S. election, also reveal Clinton arranged for her foundation to host a meeting in Morocco in return for a $12 million donation from the country’s king. The donation came from a Moroccan state-owned mining company, which later received a $92 million loan guarantee while Clinton served as secretary of state.
Quote:In another troubling instance, foundation donations were closely linked to a uranium mining company tied to the Kremlin. Canadian leaders of a mining company funneled millions of dollars to the foundation while Clinton was secretary of state, at the same time they needed Department of State approval for the sale of their company to Russia. The Clinton State Department-approved deal gave Russia control of one-fifth of the entire uranium supply in the U.S.
Quote:In the instance of Algeria, the Clinton Foundation acknowledged to The Washington Post in 2015 it should have sought clearance from the Department of State’s ethics office before taking $500,000. After Clinton left office, the foundation received a large donation from the United Arab Emirates.
Quote:The Clinton Foundation’s ties also extend to powerful individuals seeking assistance from the U.S. government, with the help of the Clinton network. Indonesian tobacco magnate Putera Sampoerna donated and worked with the foundation before he “got the U.S. government to underwrite millions in loans offered by the foundation and secured high-profile support for its activities from Sec. Clinton and other senior federal officials,” according to a report by The Washington Free Beacon.
Still waiting on that wall Mexico is going to pay for.... Oh wait, that's right! Instead of Mexico paying for the wall Trump appropriated money that was to be used for things like building schools on Military Bases and other military infrastructure.
Yeah, I've got things twisted. None of this matter's. He's your guy and we're all just picking on him for no reason.
http://www.cigarbid.com/...rump-at-the-World-SeriesPost #47
Abrignac wrote: bla bla bla
Do I love Trump? Not no, but hell no. Do I love the direction he is pointing too, every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
Abrignac wrote:So it’s irrelevant that they no longer hold office?
Actually I don’t find it’s such. I’m simply stating that if it didn’t matter what others did then it shouldn’t matter if anyone else does it. If on the other hand it is relevant then it’s relevant in regard to both side of the isle.
Please point out where I stated it shouldn't matter. Reading comprehension will get you every time. I wonder how many blood vessel's you would have popped if Obama had hired his whole family to work in the White House without them even having the proper Security Clearance's? Forget having ZERO experience or qualifications for doing the jobs they are doing.
and they lived happily ever after. The End.
A long but, non sequitur response to initial quote you reference
Too lazy to go back and quote you, but you mentioned in a post about Trump enriching himself.
Here is an IRS filing showing only 5.7 percent of the Bill Hillary and Chelsea Clinton Foundation’s 2014 budget going to charitable grants
$91,28,145 Total Expenditures
$4,175,833 Grants Disbursed
https://pdf.guidestar.org/PDF_Images/2014/311/580/2014-311580204-0c3ee98d-9.pdf
While on the subject of money, IIRC you alluded to Trump receiving something of value from foreign nations. Do you think it's ok if a Presidential candidate receives something of value from foreigners? The foundation has raised at least $42 million from foreign governments - and according to an analysis by CBS News - at least $170 million from foreign entities and individuals.
From the aforementioned IRS Filing
FORM 990, SCHEDULE J, PART I, LINE 1A
THE BOARD RECOGNIZES THAT, DUE TO EXTRAORDINARY SECURITY AND OTHER
REQUIREMENTS, WILLIAM J. CLINTON, HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON, AND CHELSEA
CLINTON MAY REQUIRE THE NEED TO TRAVEL BY CHARTER OR IN FIRST CLASS, THE
DETERMINATION OF WHICH WILL BE MADE ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS.
FORM 990, SCHEDULE J, PART I, LINE 2
TRAVEL INDICATED ABOVE IS NOT IN A SEPARATE WRITTEN POLICY, BUT IS KNOWN
TO THE BOARD. IN MOST CASES SUCH TRAVEL IS PAID FOR DIRECTLY BY THE
FOUNDATION AND REIMBURSEMENT IS NOT NECESSARY.
So the foundation received donations from foreign governments and foundation funds are used to pay for travel expenses.
As far as cronies go a google search yielded these cronies who were convicted of crimes directly related to Bill & Hillary
1) Roger Clinton
2) Dan Lasater
3) Dan Harmon
4) Bill McCuen
5) Webster Hubbell
6) Jim Guy Tucker
7) William J. Marks Sr.
8) Jim McDougal
9) Susan McDouga
10) David Hale
11) Chris Wade
12) Stephen Smith
13) Larry Kuca
14) Robert Palmer
15) Neal Ainley
16) John Latham
17) John Haley
18) Eugene Fitzhugh
19) Charles Matthews
20) Tyson Foods
21) Sun-Diamond Growers
22) Richard Douglas
23) James H. Lake
24) Ron Blackley
25) Smith Barney
26) Crop Growers Corporation
27) Brook Keith Mitchell Sr.
28) Five M Farming Enterprises
29) John J. Hemmingson
30) Alvarez T. Ferrouillet, Jr.
31) Municipal Healthcare Cooperative
32) Ferrouillet & Ferrouillet
33) Michael Brown (Ron Brown's son)
34) Eugene Lum
35) Nora Lum
36) Johnny Chung
37) Roger Tamraz
38) Linda Jones
39) Patsy Jo Wooten
40) Allen Wooten
As stated above, let's apply the law equally. However, I NEVER SAID IT WAS OK FOR HIM TO BREAK THE LAW.
Abrignac wrote:So it’s irrelevant that they no longer hold office?
Actually I don’t find it’s such. I’m simply stating that if it didn’t matter what others did then it shouldn’t matter if anyone else does it. If on the other hand it is relevant then it’s relevant in regard to both side of the isle.
I asked a rhetorical question then stated that everyone should be held to the same standard or no one should be held to that standard. You then went full retard implying that I said it was ok for Trump to do something. Yet, I never said or implied that.Before you post another long diatribe about whatever your feeble mind desires, you stated numerous times your hatred for Trump. Yet, many of the things you hate about him have been done by others. Hence, the hypocrite moniker.