rayder1
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23 years ago
Rookie: From an earlier post about smoking cigars at work. This is definitely not a smoking car. I just started to figure out a way to enjoy a cigar while driving my old Crown Vic since it was a few months from being sent back to Sacramento.

Rain or shine...gotta stand outside this one to smoke
xibbumbero
23 years ago
Some of the negative posts make me scratch my head. I don't understand some people's views.
BTW,Rayder1,One of the funniest experiences I've ever had was after being pulled over by a CHP in Lone Pine on I-395. A tall officer with one of the best senses of humor I've seen in a P.O. X
LongAshes2u
23 years ago
OK, maybe I did use a too broad of a brush to state my opinion and views towards the local sheriff dept. speeding around my nieghborhood.

Also, enforcement of the laws are important, but when they do not respect the law, that bugs me.

The three partol men were NOT going to an emergency call...they were all going to the sub-station down the street. They were like racing each other.

There are definitly some good cops out there, but in turn, There are definitly some bad one's also.

The percentage's are only one guess?

note: cully, isn't that calling the kettle black?

Intel
23 years ago
Hey Doc. I realize that most people feel poorly towards law-enforcement because usually their experiences with them are a painful one. Having to pay a ticket, running a red light, failing to yield. I understand your comments are not directed toward anyone officer but to the image in your mind built over years of negative experiences with them. Just remember if that officer, trooper, or agent was not on the job then you might have to get off you're a$$ and protect your loved ones and society from the worst mankind has to offer. So unless you are willing to put up with low pay, getting into fights with drunks and geeked up meth heads, and shot at by deviants of different shapes and size I suggest you just say hey nice car. Or say nothing at all.
DrMaddVibe
23 years ago
What a freaking joke! Steve,JJ and LongAshes got it. The rest of you, and there were a LOT of you failed to grasp the context of what I was writing. Instead, Raydar writes a soliloquy defending that he gets to drive a hot rod car, AND worst of all sneaks up on you. That doesn't bother you guys? It's a mild form of entrapment!

If he wanted to post the picture of the car, thats one thing, but to describe in detail that "we" get to sneak". So much for "Serving and Protecting"! I don't need the respect or "extra attention" by ANYONE that has to sneak. Snakes sneak. I thought law enforcement officers worked FOR us, and not against us.

Cully, you've got a lot of nerve chest thumping out to everyone when you fail to grasp the English language! rick, is rick. Blinders and delusional. Almost like some Eeyore personality disorder. "Poor me,everyone's out to get me." Nothing could be farther from the truth. Maybe that's the way rick's "wired" and conducts himself in that fashion. I don't.

Working in a hospital brings out the absolute WORST is some of the State Cops that I've witnessed. They were in a high speed pursuit, maybe one of the fellow officers or civilians was hurt and we get to treat these guys while they're yelling and cursing. I mentioned that I only see them "hiding" in the medians or blowing by me in traffic. Of course, it's always an "emergency"!

In closing with the majority of you illiterate's that think this was some personal vendetta or some pent up frustration...Wrong! Intel, I might not like what YOU or some other's might say, BUT I'll defend YOUR right to say it! Last time I looked I was living in America and not some gulag where the thoughtpolice is watching everything!
xibbumbero
23 years ago
I suppose it would be in bad taste to sneak up on a bank robber? If your breaking the law,you're breaking the law. BTW DMV,take a chill pill...GEEZ. X
E-Chick
23 years ago
I love doctors...and that's all I've got to say about that!
E-Chick
23 years ago
How does that song go...maybe rick knows...

I'm walkin', yes indeed, I'm talkin', bout you and me...

Ricky Nelson?

Walk a beat...love it...
pebbea
23 years ago
raydar, do you know Gordy Graham?
xibbumbero
23 years ago
E-Chick,Fats Domino. No relation to Domino's Pizza,LOL. X
Intel
23 years ago
I will say I agree with you when you say you have the right to say how you feel. If you took what I wrote to literally and think I am asking you not to share your opinion then I apologize for the break down in communication on my part. What I intended to express was law-enforcement should not be judged by people who have never done the job. If you want to talk the talk by all means go ahead, but before you chastise the police for cursing and being angry after a chase remember the physiological changes that occur after a traumatic event such as a accident. If you have never lived through what law-enforcement officers live through then you will never understand law-enforcement officers. I could try to explain but you will still not understand. NICE CAR.
BMW
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23 years ago
I grew up in Alabama in the 60's. Police there at that time were to be feared by all (the Wallace yrs). The State Boys drove Javelins with Hemmys and chased moonshiners and NASCAR wannabees. I never heard of anyone ever outrunning them. I had a few friends blow motors trying and the cops let it go at that.

Since then I've met police (not always my choice) from all walks of life, good, bad, mean, extremely helpful, crooked, nervous, scary, macho, sincere and then there's rookie (Keith)LOL (just kidding Keith)

Cops, they're people too, well some of them. LOL.

Barry
Sonny_LSU
23 years ago
DMV....Paxil could do the trick, but don't quote me though. Ask your primary care for his/her opinion. An A+ personality does not mix well with emergency medicine or the use of tobacco products...forget Paxil, try a career change and let me take care of your aweful cigar situation;)

Now, with that being said,STFU.

DrMaddVibe
23 years ago
Is that some firsthand diagnoses? Like I care!
rookie139
23 years ago
Nicely put Intel
rayder1
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23 years ago
Dr Madd is a real Dr?? I though he was a frustrated Jazz musician.

I hear the word "Entrapment" used a lot by truckers on the CB. They usually refer to Officers using aircraft, radar or sitting off the roadway in order to gather evidence of a criminal offense.

I sometimes ask on the CB that the person define entrapment. The result is the realization they are ignorant of the law and legal procedure. This is from a legal resource:

DEFENSES TO CRIME
• Defense
 Reasonable force to protect self, others, property
 Deadly force not reasonable to protect only property without threat of bodily harm.
• Duress
 One is threatened with immediate, serious harm
 Not an excuse to murder
• Mistake of Fact
• Entrapment
 Law enforcement officer induces person to commit crime person would not have done without persuasion
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Or another: ENTRAPMENT - A person is 'entrapped' when he is induced or persuaded by law enforcement officers or their agents to commit a crime that he had no previous intent to commit; and the law as a matter of policy forbids conviction in such a case.

Here's an example: An Officer gives a person $100 to carry some drugs to a location and try to get someone to buy the drugs. However, once the person has the drugs in possession, the Officer arrests him for possession for sale. THAT is entrapment.

Please people, do your homework before spouting rhetoric.
rookie139
23 years ago
Rayder, I gave up on 'em...We're definitely not gonna change their minds..Someone find the poem/story called "Damn Cop" and post it here (my computer's packed away and I'm at work)..Very good read...Also represents my sentiments exactly
rookie139
23 years ago
Disregard..It isn't called "Damn Cop" and I can't find it..Nevermind
DrMaddVibe
23 years ago
Ray, I guess that's what ya get for thinking!

I have to know...if(and in your world that's the biggest stretch of the imagination!)you were driving down the highway and you were speeding and you saw in your mirror a "performance" car weaving in traffic almost like he wants to "backdraft" on you would you slow down? Barring, you have complete control of your car and you, yourself aren't weaving in and out of traffic and the only cars for miles are behind you in the left lanes.

Really understand what I'm about to write: I don't have any hatred for you or your profession like so many have stated in this thread. I'm not a criminal and have never seen the inside walls of a jail. Never been arrested, but I have received a couple of speeding tickets(which I was!) in my life and a disturbing the peace ticket for the band I was in; playing outdoors after 9pm(some local ordinance that wasn't looked into beforehand!)I don't want to do your job better than you or any of your collegues either. It would be a severe pay cut! With that being said, I don't need you(your words!) standing in front of my house waiting for some burgular. My wife and I can handle that just fine, by ourselves. In my lifetime, and you can call it luck or whatever; I've never had to call the police for anything. The attitudes and behaviors that I've seen personally have left a stain, not a prejudice on anything you or any other "good" cops could sway to change my mind. Keep on doing what you're doing, and I'll be the guy that flashes his headlights to oncoming motorists to let them know you're there, fair?

Oh, and I'd really like to know your answer to the my question.
rayder1
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23 years ago
Happy New Year to All! Yes....even you Dr Madd.
If I saw a performance car in my mirror catching up to me, I am ecstatic. That means, that when I let him pass me (and I always do) that I can speed up and travel about 5 mph less than him and not worry about being the one singled out for a ticket.

If I choose to speed up and play speed racer with him, then I deserve what I get. In my world of offensive driving, if I "bump" someone's speed up by my driving up behind them to get a pace, I discount the difference when I write the ticket.
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