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Unbanded trade/review round 2
Puffnstuff79 Offline
#151 Posted:
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frozenphoenix1 wrote:
Well... I just got my order of those today. Glad I enjoyed it.


Now that's goodApplause
Puffnstuff79 Offline
#152 Posted:
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Frozenphoenix stick #3 review

6 x 52 triple cap maduro with decent weight, fairly smooth seams, minuscule veins with the exception of one. The packing is even and solid. Foot doesn't give off anything particular to me other than tobacco. Off to clip using guillotine.
The cold draw heeds a flavor that reminds me of chewing tobacco when I did it occasionally as a teenager. This thing lit up like its been waiting for a lighter. The first puff brought all my senses to alert. First retro was a bit of a system shock but it was borderline "don't do that again" and "wake up punk, it's on". After a few pulls I knew it was good for the sinuses. The ash is white and grey, like snow. The draw is flawless. The burn is almost razor sharp. This reminds me of the chocolate caramel creamer I used in my coffee this morning with a hint of pepper in the throat from the retro that makes me think white pepper but it lingers on the tip of my tongue like black pepper. The ash is amazingly white and solid. There's a couple hits of dark cherry in here. The smoke is just delightful and is putting out like a drunk girl with daddy issues. 

On to the second third and I still have the original ash. Never mind!! Lol. This is picking up steam. The black pepper is gone. I think I'm getting a cocoa flavor. It's a dry crumbly taste of under my tongue and sharp on the retrohale stopping just short of the eye level. Half way through and I could put this out and be satisfied with the nicotine production. It's been 45 minutes and I think I've been pacing myself fine but it's time to let it rest a bit. I already moved out of the sun and away from the bees. I was getting in the middle of their fight. 

Moving into the last third with a lot of pepper. This puppy has my tongue curling up. I'd retrohale if I hadn't already snorted a shot of vodka when I was a teenager because my brother told me it would make me trip. The ash is big, strong and white. Everything about this sticks flavor was composed with effort and obvious know how. The transitions are not very complex but they do change often enough to keep my interest. There's always a longer of pepper except there in the beginning. I want to think the pepper is left in the taste from about midpoint because it is finding its place in the background as I continue on. The retrohale has become acceptable again and a touch of creaminess makes me think this might be even inviting later. I'm going to move to the dock now. The pepper came back strong and almost made me regret moving to the sun but it's more like a cinnamon or something. I can't put my finger on it. Man, I wish that cream would've come through. I was pulling for it. I was starting second guess if this was the high end. I picked it thinking it was the middle. Now with all the pepper and tobacco flavor at the end without the creaminess I have to stick with my pick that this was a middle stick. I'm still gonna burn my fingers with it before tossing it in the lake. Very enjoyable and satisfying. Total smoke time is 1:25
frozenphoenix1 Offline
#153 Posted:
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Well... that was a liga privada no. 9 toro. The sweetness that you couldn't figure out got me too, but made it oh so enjoyable.
Puffnstuff79 Offline
#154 Posted:
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Funny. I got one vitola from a pib with reckless and didn't want to smoke it cause it was the last of smokes I was gonna buy but had to tap out. Then, I was about to spark one after these reviews because I got one from my vanzandt in a vet/noob trade. That one is a different vitola. Now I can it's not a snobby thing. They really are just good. I appreciate the put on that. Tell me, was that your middle or high? I still think the next one has better construction. But who knows I've had smokes with flawless construction, razor burn, great ash, not a flavor to it but burning burn
frozenphoenix1 Offline
#155 Posted:
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That was the high but I have really taken to the other one as of recently. Ill be excited to see what you think of them.
Puffnstuff79 Offline
#156 Posted:
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frozenphoenix1 wrote:
Well... that was a liga privada no. 9 toro. The sweetness that you couldn't figure out got me too, but made it oh so enjoyable.


From what I'm seeing the sweetness may be coming from the fact that it is an oscuro/double maduro and is fermented longer. I had my doubts when I typed up maduro too, I just didn't know where else to go with it. I bet this also has something to do with the extra oils that I almost commented on as it was burning. The burn line had a good shine to it after 5-10 minutes of burning.
Puffnstuff79 Offline
#157 Posted:
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Frozenphoenix #1 cigar review

Robusto with a dark wrapper (gonna need to study up on my wrappers). It's oily, the seams are tight, the veins are minimally visual and virtually smooth all the way around. The foot smells sweet and it's packed consistently with no soft spots. I'm going for the v-cut here. I made a good choice. The cold draw was perfect. I had a little issue lighting it, but I often do because of my single flame. I need to grab a double.

The first few pulls are light. I like it this way for the retro hale purposes, which by the way is nice. Wait for it then joke. I got a creamy nut in the back of my cheeks. Lol. But damn, this is a fine smoke on a warm day. I think it's upper 80s here with the water reflecting off the water it may be more. The ash is a promising color but the burn line isn't a razors edge. That's even after the issue corrected itself from my single flame. There's some earthy tones here. I'm not great at pulling them apart but I sense maybe cedar and what some might report as oak? I'd imagine oak to be more overpowering but bearable like in scotch so I question the oak taste. Nearing the inch mark I'm moving onto the spice cabinet. Very light pepper, vanilla and smooth something. Hmmm...I hate this, but I'm gonna run with my instinct here...dried fruit. It's not sweet though. It's salty. The longer I let my palate sit the more buttery. Hmmm...melted butter smeared across red leather. Call me full of it but it's my imagination stimulated by the smoke so if you don't like it STFU.  The ash is getting a little flaky but I'm gonna be nice and see how long it rides. First third is gone and so is the ash. If this smoke stopped changing and stayed here I'd be happy with it at 4-5 bucks per in a 5-pack scenario. For me that says a lot for a smoke if it's non-complex not ultra creamy. What could make smoking a cigar better? Getting a box of cigars in the mail!! Good timing. 

Second third is giving me a nice kick. I think I was getting complacent. Spicy grabbed my attention and retro yielded an espresso with cream. Very nice welcoming. Oops, I used to smoke cigarettes and I haven't accidentally inhaled on a cigar in months. I almost did. My body kicked it out though. Feels like a donkey kicked me in the lungs. I forget how powerful these little suckers really are. To think, I used to inhale these regularly. Crazy. The ash has become more consistent. There's none blowing in the breeze or anything. The burn line is a little off but not worth fixing, it has caught up with itself everytime. You know, I'm blaming the burn line on the v cut. I'm gonna x cut it to see if this changes it. Straightened right up. Smoke output is now nuts. There is a nice kick to this now too. It's not overbearing but it is a testament to what a difference a cut makes and why you can't judge a cigar by one time smoking it. I'm entering the transition from 2 to 3 of the stick and I know I want another one of these to cut differently from the start. A very rich chocolate. Intoxicating retro. Yeah, this is a great smoke. I can see how it's been making its way into regular rotation. I know I haven't had one of these. 

Final third has moved from medium to med-full. The smoke is barreling out. My palate is questioning itself. I don't know what I'm tasting. It is just excellent. Complex and I can't justify giving it any specific flavor. It's just good, enjoyable, and balanced. I want a box. Knowing this is the medium cigar you sent I know it's worth a box. Certainly not a morning smoke for me. Not so complicated I need to move out of the sun but just great. After downing some water I can say for sure the abundance in taste isn't just pepper but my tongue is reacting as if it were. The only thing I wish this had more of was a creamy finish in the 3rd but so few cigars have that I can't really complain. I burned that one a little hot and was forced to put it out at 1 hr 15. Dying to know if I have any of these in my trades. What is it?
frozenphoenix1 Offline
#158 Posted:
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That was a sencillo black by the same house as GOF. I got them a bit ago, but will be getting more to bury and see if they mellow out with a little extra time.
Puffnstuff79 Offline
#159 Posted:
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Yeah, I think age will work wonders on those. Its more for a box than I'd like to spend right now because of other purchases but if you have any interest in splitting a box just let me know. Or a trade?
euodias Offline
#160 Posted:
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DCLover wrote:
Thank you euodias. 3 unbanded, Casa Magna Domus Magnus, & a LFD. Hope to get started on these over the weekend.



Did I miss something?
frozenphoenix1 Offline
#161 Posted:
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I don't believe that you have missed anything yet.
DCLover Offline
#162 Posted:
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euodias wrote:
Did I miss something?

Not yet. Been super busy on the weekends lately, only time I have to do a proper review.
danmdevries Offline
#163 Posted:
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Got a package from frozen today. Three unbanded and three hitchhikers. Reckoning nub, LP T-52 ffp?, and Partagas Serie D No 4

holy carp.

Can't wait to take these outside.
frozenphoenix1 Offline
#164 Posted:
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Didnt follow all the rules as its an open field for bombing dan right now. Excited to see what you think of the three unbandeds.
danmdevries Offline
#165 Posted:
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Been outside with #1 for about 45 minutes now. Right at the halfway point. Have another tab open on my phone, typing my review as I go. Wil post review when the butt is tossed in my fire pit.
danmdevries Offline
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Starting with number 1: A natural wrapper mild sweet hay aroma, sweet tobacco and raisin on a dry draw. The shape is a faint perfecto, or maybe just an irregular roll. Initial impression is dry plain tobacco flavor, with a little bit of lingering sweetness on the finish, not unlike the unlit draw. Theres a little bite on retrohale and the aroma is pretty much straight tobacco. Theres a faintly creamy mouthfeel, good smoke production, and easy draw. The flavor is very neutral, mild-mid, really nothing off-putting but not anything too special. Quite beige.

As it smokes down, its not changing, staying pretty much where it was on the initial light. Faintly creamy mouthfeel, slight bite on the retrohale, and a sweet dry finish. Theres a character in the sweetness that shows up very briefly and then vanishes. Cant put my finger on it, but its of something which I have a fond memory. The burn has been perfect, hasn't strayed by more than 1/8" and I'm at the halfway point now.

Just beyond halfway the flavors became much more rich and lasting longer. Similar flavors, a lot more creamy mouthfeel, buttery quality. No strength that I can tell, but flavor has picked up. Not changed, Just increased.

Final impression: Got 1:30 out of this cigar, and still had 2" left when I put it down. I hate when a cigar gets hot/sour, can't get the bad taste out my mouth. So I may have quit earlier than necessary. Regardless, it finished strong. The body of the smoke increased throughout the cigar. The flavors remained unchanged, but the creamy mouthfeel and the richness of the flavors increased linearly. Zero burn issues, though the wrapper did crack and start to unravel about 15min before I put it down.

Going to say this was the yard gar, based off the flat flavor profile. Though, it could very well be a midrange mild cigar. Haven't smoked very many milds, the few I've tried have just been too mild and I didn't enjoy them. But then again, I tossed em before the halfway point which, in this cigar, was a major turning point in the experience. The things that make me question the yard gar vote is the perfect burn and the lack of off-putting flavors. It had zero offensive flavors or aromas, not even transiently.

My vote may change after trying the others. I'm not sold on if this was yard or mid. The lack of complexity leaves me fairly confident it's not the high-end.

Please refrain from ID'ing until I've posted all three reviews. If I find out this is one or the other, it'll skew my impressions on the other two.
Puffnstuff79 Offline
#167 Posted:
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danmdevries wrote:
Got a package from frozen today. Three unbanded and three hitchhikers. Reckoning nub, LP T-52 ffp?, and Partagas Serie D No 4

holy carp.

Can't wait to take these outside.


Those are too good for you, send em here Danny boy
danmdevries Offline
#168 Posted:
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Puffnstuff79 wrote:
Those are too good for you, send em here Danny boy


True story.

But I don't regift.
Puffnstuff79 Offline
#169 Posted:
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Lol. Beautiful recovery. I haven't done it either. If I have it's because I had the smoke already and I gifted one I had blah blah blah but as a general rule blah blah no
danmdevries Offline
#170 Posted:
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Number 2. Like giving a speech paid for by a drug or device rep, im going to state my bias before we begin: I think this is the premium.

The wrapper, the cap, the pre light aroma and texture, the cold draw are all very well done.

Cut the cap (usually punch first, cut if draw needs opening, but I dropped my punch in the mud.) Cold draw: neutral tobacco slight dry hay. Not much there. Toasted the foot and took a draw. Creamy spicy slap your face flavor. Extreme smoke output from the foot.

Spice and woody earthy flavors. Mouthfeel is very dry, i dont think I could smoke this without a drink. Its got a very smoky wooden tone so far, almost sweet save for the dry mouthfeel. Yet the flavors tell me it should be creamy. The finish is long long long, flavors coat my mouth but it doesn't have the buttercream mouthfeel I expected. The aroma is quite pleasant, thankfully considering this thing acts like it would be happy to smoke itself if I walked away.

The complexity of the finish is pleasant, easy to take my time on this one, great compliment with the scotch. The predominant initial flavor on the draw is smoked sweet hardwood and it quickly shifts to a rich sweet tobacco but stays until my next draw.

I'm an hour into this cigar and just past the halfway point. The expected creamy mouthfeel has shown up, and the pepper/spice/bite on retrohale has disappeared. There's still a faint hint of spiciness if I look for it, but nowhere near the slap-your-momma spice I picked up on the initial draw.

The finish persists, and has even grown legs and gotten longer than the miles-long finish earlier in the cigar. Flavor profile now is a semi-sweet very smooth oily earthy (freshly plowed field in a light rain) flavor. Absolutely no offensive flavors, aromas, or other nuances from the cigar. Even the excessive foot smoke is pleasant.

Well, it went out on me at about 1 3/4" Right at the 1:30 mark. I did relight and it only gave me two sour puffs, then resumed being tasty. But it went out a second time shortly afterward and I left it down.

Still believe this one to be the premium. Excellent cigar. I want to say this is a Drew Estate product, likely a Liga Privada, but IIRC, the LP's have a pigtail cap, this one had a regular double or triple cap. Not sure what it is other than damn tasty.

But again, refrain from ID until all 3 are posted please
danmdevries Offline
#171 Posted:
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Heading out back with number 3 now. Initial impression is it's a dry low-oil wrapper and cold draw is dry mild tobacco, nothing distinct coming across yet. Will go pour my glass of scotch and head out back. As with the last two reviews, I'll live update/edit as I smoke it.

First draw is again with dry straight tobacco flavor, moderate smoke output, easy draw. A bit of pepper on the retrohale very mild maybe just a bit of smoke bite. Finish is brief. Theres a very mild bit that lingers but its easily forgotten. With the wrapper in the sunlight, it does have a faint oily sheen.

Mouthfeel is fairly dry at least in the first inch. Initial burn line went crooked but at about the 1" line it straightened out. Flavor at 1" is still fairly plain and mild.

Halfway through and flavors really haven't changed. Plain mild dry tobacco with no offensive flavor or aroma. Mildly creamy mouthfeel, not As pronounced as #1 but its there. Having a hard time placing this one in the group.

Down to 2" and still a pretty plain but tasty cigar. Really no flavors that jumped out distinctly but nothing offensive, mild body mild strength. Pretty good. Something tells me this is the mid, but I cant quite finger it.

So in conclusion my vote is: #1 yard, #2 premium, #3 mid.

Id's please

Edit: was this a CC?
frozenphoenix1 Offline
#172 Posted:
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Ok... well I wanted to send you three different wrappers so I sent you more or less three mid cigars with the extra hitchhikers.

1 was a CLE cuarenta 11/18
2 was an undercrown robusto
3 was a DPG black cuban classic robusto

Your reviews were very detailed and I thoroughly ejoyed reading them.

Just to let you know its really only some of the special cigars in the LP lines that have the tails.
danmdevries Offline
#173 Posted:
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frozenphoenix1 wrote:
Ok... well I wanted to send you three different wrappers so I sent you more or less three mid cigars with the extra hitchhikers.

1 was a CLE cuarenta 11/18
2 was an undercrown robusto
3 was a DPG black cuban classic robusto

Your reviews were very detailed and I thoroughly ejoyed reading them.

Just to let you know its really only some of the special cigars in the LP lines that have the tails.


That was a lot of fun.

Did my reviews match your impressions of these cigars?

All mids explains my difficulty fingering the yard gar.
Bitter Klinger Offline
#174 Posted:
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My Number 3 cigar from Puffnstuff was a dark habano 6x52ish torpedo. Tripple cap, visible tight seams and light tooth to the wrapper. It had a light manure aroma and a snug-ish prelight draw.

First draws were smooth and woody, with dry, light to medium smoke output. Very faint pepper on the retrohales. Ash was grey in color,dropping every inch and burned very evenly throughout - requiring no re-lights or touch-ups. The flavors were dominantly a tasty woody tobacco and not much else. It stayed consistant in draw, taste and smoke production.

It was an overall good smoke, but honestly not something I'd go out of my way to smoke again. It was good, but just kind of there - not really standing out in any way. It was a mild to medium at most in flavor strength and I didn't notice any nicotine strength. Again nothing pointing to any particular origins, it didn't taste like a typical Dominican or a Nicaraguan.

I hope I don't find out it was a high-dollar smoke :) What was it, Puff?
Bitter Klinger Offline
#175 Posted:
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danmdevries wrote:
Got a package from frozen today. Three unbanded and three hitchhikers. Reckoning nub, LP T-52 ffp?, and Partagas Serie D No 4

holy carp.

Can't wait to take these outside.


Can I get royalties on that? Hehe!
frozenphoenix1 Offline
#176 Posted:
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Yeah fairly close. The CLE gives a sweetness from the wrapper and I bought those on a whim from his 11/18s at camacho and how the flavors changed, but these don't do it nearly enough in my opinion. The UC has been hit or miss for me on the flavor profile so you got a good one. I love the Garcia cigars because they have the right amount of pepper for an all around decent smoke with coffee or alcohol.
Puffnstuff79 Offline
#177 Posted:
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Bitter, sorry man, that one was my big shabang. It was a Padron FR 44. I had the 46 today and it knocked me socks off. Goes to show, it ain't about the price you pay but what your own taste says.
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#178 Posted:
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Puffnstuff79 wrote:
Bitter, sorry man, that one was my big shabang. It was a Padron FR 44. I had the 46 today and it knocked me socks off. Goes to show, it ain't about the price you pay but what your own taste says.


Wow, I'm floored, man. d'oh!

It was a good smoke, but very dissimiliar to the only other Padron I've smoked which was the '64 Anny principe. The '64 had a distinctly different taste, so I would have never guessed Padron as a result. It also had a light colored wrapper and was very high strength. I had to sit down for several minutes after smoking it.

Guess that also goes to show how different cigars can be in a given line, too.

Well, all is not lost. I'm working on the last of the three, and so far, its my favorite. Working on the review now as I smoke it.

BK
Bitter Klinger Offline
#179 Posted:
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My final review stick from Puffy is a 7x48 churchill with medium brown habano wrapper. It has tight invisible seams, a double cap and although the wrapper is smooth itself, its a lumpy pack. Very light weight despite its length. The pre-light draw confirms my suspicions of a loose draw (due to weight), Which is perfect for me tonight - its starting get humid in Dixieland this evening. Not a lot of clues as to what to expect in aroma from the foot or during the pre-light draw, just a faint tobacco smell. Cut 'er up, quick toast and here we go...

First couple draws show some distinct white pepper both at the front and on the fairly long finishes. It tastes like it has some Dominican leaf, and has some nice woody notes. The smoke production is perfect, and the foot smoke is minimal. Its on the light side of creamy and extremely smooth. Got some chocolate coming in, just a little bit, and its more evident on the retrohale. I feel like this cigar has some age on it, by its smoothness and just a tinge of mustiness.

A slow burner, I'm only at the halfway point at 1:45! The tastes have shifted some. The pepper on the retrohale is much stronger than in the first third - more a red perrer now. There's a lingering "zing" on the palate now that wasn't there before, and the ash has become flaky and flowery every half-inch. Previously, drops were chucky and every 3/4ths or so. The woody notes are cedar now for sure, whereas earlier just overall woody. Smoke production is still as great as the first draws. The occasional chocolate notes are missing now.

Into the final third, pepper is subsiding. Smoke is still bountiful, and smells good as it tastes. This one is all flavor and no strength. I would rate the flavor a med to medium-full overall. I ended this one with a generous nub at the 2:25 mark, where it had mellowed to just a nutty tobacco taste. I could've easily got anothe 10-15 minutes out of it. This was a very enjoyable smoke with long burn requiring no relights or touch-ups. I look forward to knowing what it was.

BK
Puffnstuff79 Offline
#180 Posted:
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This was the Padron Executive. I found myself messing up the first one I smoked because I wasn't used to the construction and details just as you laid them out. I think the whole 5er I got of them weighed as much as the 80 year Padron. Glad you liked it, you can get them for pretty good prices here.
frozenphoenix1 Offline
#181 Posted:
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Cigar #1 from Chazbo

From memory since my phone didn't save my typed up review.

This is a 4 3/4 x 50 with a chocolate brown wrapper with minimal seams and a double cap. Sweet grassy smell from the foot and also there on the punched cold draw with a bit of woodsy flavor.

The initial draws have a sweetness being left and more of an oak flavor with a hint of pepper. Through the first third it burned a little wavy but nothing a rotation didn't correct. Less sweetness going into the second third and more of the oak flavor with a hayish finish. One touch up was required for some canoeing along a soft spot, but corrected well. There wasn't much for flavor change into the final third. It did build a bit of nicotine buzz for me near the middle of the final third and it snuck up on me. I slowly finished it to a nub after that and had a bit of pepper on the finish as it was tossed.

It was a good stick, but not one that I would go to very often.

thanks for the great variety of cigars Chazbo.

gonna have that 101 now while listening to playoff hockey.
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#182 Posted:
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^ #1 was the JDN Rosalones
Chazbo
DCLover Offline
#183 Posted:
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Finally getting around to euodias' #1. Sorry I've taken so long, I just have to be in the mood for one of these. So here we go.

Appearance is very good, triple cap, very toothy milk chololate brown wrapper. 5 x 40-42, solidly put together.

Clipped with a guillotine. Pre-light draw is grassy, hay. It's telling me it could be an illegal alien.

Right off the bat, dark rich earth. Very little of the grass/hay, charred oak in the lead. Medium, leaning toward full. Nice medium draw, plenty of smoke. Knocked the ash off at 1", burn requiring no help.

Halfway, picking up what I would describe as dry unsweet cocoa, less earthiness, charry oak still prominent. Hint of dried fruit on the finish. Thought it could be Cuban from the pre-light, now backing away from that. Disclaimer: not a Cuban expert by any means. Guess I'm leaning toward Nicaraguan.

Overall, a decent cigar I enjoyed trying. Not one I'd buy again, a little too much of that burnt oakiness for me. Thank you, Makana.
euodias Offline
#184 Posted:
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DCLover wrote:
Finally getting around to euodias' #1. Sorry I've taken so long, I just have to be in the mood for one of these. So here we go.

Appearance is very good, triple cap, very toothy milk chololate brown wrapper. 5 x 40-42, solidly put together.

Clipped with a guillotine. Pre-light draw is grassy, hay. It's telling me it could be an illegal alien.

Right off the bat, dark rich earth. Very little of the grass/hay, charred oak in the lead. Medium, leaning toward full. Nice medium draw, plenty of smoke. Knocked the ash off at 1", burn requiring no help.

Halfway, picking up what I would describe as dry unsweet cocoa, less earthiness, charry oak still prominent. Hint of dried fruit on the finish. Thought it could be Cuban from the pre-light, now backing away from that. Disclaimer: not a Cuban expert by any means. Guess I'm leaning toward Nicaraguan.

Overall, a decent cigar I enjoyed trying. Not one I'd buy again, a little too much of that burnt oakiness for me. Thank you, Makana.


Cool! That was a Ramon Bueso Genesis Project. It got rave reviews from some of the forum members here as a cheap alternative to cigars like the LP9. You can get them for $2-3 here, making them a pretty good cigar for a near dog rocket price.
DCLover Offline
#185 Posted:
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Surprised me. Had the robusto & liked it for the price. The corona, not as much. Thanks again, I hope to get to #2 a lot sooner than I got to that one!
DCLover Offline
#186 Posted:
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Starting off with euodias' #2. 6.5 x 44ish, light brown wrapper with no veins to speak of, solidly bunched. Pre-light draw is a bit tight for me, nice barnyard aroma from the foot. Forgot to count the caps before I snipped them, oh well. I did cut too deep with the guillotine & split the wrapper maybe a 1/4 inch. Slight delay while I mix powdered pectin with water. A miniscule amount on a toothpick between the wrapper & binder, I am good to go. Pairing with lightly sweetened iced tea.

Starting off mild side of medium, but full of flavor. I want to say it has the Cuban twang, but I smoke them so infrequently I could easily be out to lunch. Very nice slightly sweet cedar dominating with a mildly earthy finish that's really nice. With few exceptions, I've not been a big fan of Cuban tobacco. I'm starting to wonder if it's because I'm smoking them in the wrong context. I don't usually smoke this early in the day, but this is a perfect early cigar. Draw is tighter than I prefer but producing adequate amounts of smoke.

Flavor not changing a lot as I progress to the 2nd third. The sweet note comes & goes, getting more of a charred cedar that had me thinking of fish on a cedar plank (for some reason...not that it's fishy tasting in the least). At halfway, I'm struggling to come up with a better description than earthy Cuban twang. Slightly floral with a hint of nutmeg.

Into the final third, the sweetness is hanging around more on the front end, earthiness building on the finish. More floral, less nutmeg, the cedar fading. Ash is so solid, it's like I'm having to pry it off when it gets to be an inch long. Wanted to get harsh around 2", but a purge seems to have helped that immensely. Burn has remained razor sharp all the way. My repair held until the end too.

Very good cigar that I hated to see end. Is there better praise than that? Thank you, Makana.
euodias Offline
#187 Posted:
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DCLover wrote:
Starting off with euodias' #2. 6.5 x 44ish, light brown wrapper with no veins to speak of, solidly bunched. Pre-light draw is a bit tight for me, nice barnyard aroma from the foot. Forgot to count the caps before I snipped them, oh well. I did cut too deep with the guillotine & split the wrapper maybe a 1/4 inch. Slight delay while I mix powdered pectin with water. A miniscule amount on a toothpick between the wrapper & binder, I am good to go. Pairing with lightly sweetened iced tea.

Starting off mild side of medium, but full of flavor. I want to say it has the Cuban twang, but I smoke them so infrequently I could easily be out to lunch. Very nice slightly sweet cedar dominating with a mildly earthy finish that's really nice. With few exceptions, I've not been a big fan of Cuban tobacco. I'm starting to wonder if it's because I'm smoking them in the wrong context. I don't usually smoke this early in the day, but this is a perfect early cigar. Draw is tighter than I prefer but producing adequate amounts of smoke.

Flavor not changing a lot as I progress to the 2nd third. The sweet note comes & goes, getting more of a charred cedar that had me thinking of fish on a cedar plank (for some reason...not that it's fishy tasting in the least). At halfway, I'm struggling to come up with a better description than earthy Cuban twang. Slightly floral with a hint of nutmeg.

Into the final third, the sweetness is hanging around more on the front end, earthiness building on the finish. More floral, less nutmeg, the cedar fading. Ash is so solid, it's like I'm having to pry it off when it gets to be an inch long. Wanted to get harsh around 2", but a purge seems to have helped that immensely. Burn has remained razor sharp all the way. My repair held until the end too.

Very good cigar that I hated to see end. Is there better praise than that? Thank you, Makana.


Good call on the cuban :)

That was a por larranaga encantos. You picked the right time to smoke it, and a pretty good pairing too. I do find myself reaching for a draw tool with them though
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#188 Posted:
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Its fathers day, so I insisted on taking the time to enjoy a good cigar today. And since I'm gonna take my time, I'm going to do my last review from Greg. Cigar numbered #2. Medium brown wrapper. Would call it a belicoso. About 6.5 : and 48 ring guage. Some light veins to the wraper. Cold draw was all light tobacco. Initial light has a warm nutty taste with a slight hint of cedar.

Ok, so I'm about an inch in. Still lots of ymmy nuttiness, with very mild tobacco undertones. The nose of the ciagar is wonderful as well . Ash is holding strong, with a slight uneveness to the burn, which I'm attributing to lazy lighting at this point. Very tasty so far. Reminds me a lot of a padron, but its been a while ince I smoked a podron. . . .


Half way in, a little leather has presented. Still a great aroma coming off of the cigar, and a very even burn now. Ash is holding well, until I knock off at about 1.5" or so.

Final third, and now there's lots of leather, along with some spice. Really great profile to this one. Flavor throughout. Really even burn from 1" point on. Beautiful white ash through out. I have really enjoyed this cigar.
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#189 Posted:
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#2 was an Ashton ESG. Sounds like you enjoyed it.
illinichaser Offline
#190 Posted:
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I did enjoy.


Thanks again Greg. You put together quite the line up
shaun341 Offline
#191 Posted:
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Is this still alive I would like to play.
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#192 Posted:
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I'll play even if it's a dead thread. PM me your addy and I'll put you a 5 pack together I'm hitting the PO in a couple days anyways
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#193 Posted:
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Always interesting not knowing what your in forThink
I will start a new thread and get this Rollin againHerfing
Chazbo
shaun341 Offline
#194 Posted:
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Thanks Chazbo and yes it is a good game
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#195 Posted:
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Count me in as well -- had a blast the first time.
chazbo Offline
#196 Posted:
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CLOSED
Started a new summer time unbanded thread.
Chazbo
DCLover Offline
#197 Posted:
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Not closed. I still have one more to do. I'm a slacker.
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#198 Posted:
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Finally getting to my last unbanded from euodias. What a slacker. Hope Makana remembers wtf #3 was.

5x50, dark maduro wrapper. Solid, packed tightly head to foot. Slightly sweet mustiness on the pre-light. First few draws are nice. Classic full bodied maduro flavors, cocoa & charred oak. Seems very familiar. That mustiness is suggesting Davidoff to me. Another possibility, Anejo, but it doesn't have the hint of cinnamon I get from those.

Laptop battery died in the middle, so all I have is some after thoughts. Burn got a little uneven toward the middle, but corrected itself quickly. In the 2nd half I did pick up a few hints of cinnamon, so I'm going to say it was an Anejo 50. Was a very good cigar. I'd buy it for sure.

Thank you, Makana. Do you remember what you sent me way back when?
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#199 Posted:
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DCLover wrote:
Not closed. I still have one more to do. I'm a slacker.


Palama still has 3 to do as well.
DCLover Offline
#200 Posted:
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LOL, I thought I was the best slacker.
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