I have no complains, this weeks order over110 gars average $0.68 a piece incl. shipping,now with all this gars I got a lot of yardwork to do!Amen

GG7, certainly not wanting to start any arguements but here's a couple of things you might consider. What you are seeing is nothing new, it's been going on here as long as I have been coming here and I'm sure as long as many that have been here longer than me. This is an auction and as long as the bidder is operating by the rules that the owners of this site set up I don't see that you have anything at all to bitch about or the right to be calling them the names you have in this post. What I see as "selfish" is someone complaining about what another bidder is doing because they didn't get what they wanted at the bargain price that they wanted it at.


Personally, I generally only bid on one or two lots and do try to leave some for the other people to get a good deal on. But, it doesn't bother me if someone bids on them all. These auctions are just like a bus or women: there's another one coming along any minute now. Thanks for the heads up though. ORV

Orv, if you want to go on believing that that Mr. "so and so" needs 5 digital hygrometers, 10 Otter boxes and 8 Bowman lighter 2-packs every week, go right on fooling yourself that this isn't a selfish, greedy and totally USELESS practice. ;o)

I know better, and I also know that the practice flat out doesn't work. You are far more likely to get a single at a lower price by bidding on one or perhaps two rather than tipping your bid limit hand immediately by wrapping your incompetent bidding skills around an entire lot. Does anyone honestly think that NO ONE is going to test your bid limit on most of the items on CB? Come on! Get real!

If you really think this stupid technique works, go right on using it, but most of us with any auction experience elsewhere know it is the clear MARK of the NEWBIE bidder.

I've repeated myself enough in this thread, its time to move on.

UGH! (I wish this board had message editing like every other forum on the planet!) I forgot to address this:

Slim, bidding early at the opening of the auction is far more likely to get you the best deal than bidding on the entire lot. As everyone should already know, CB gives priority to the earlier winning bidders if you use Auto-Bid, and in most cases I always get the item for less than most of the other winners.

Locking out everyone else on a popular item (And what items aren't ?) is only going to push your bid limit to the max. You have basically forced the rest of us to outbid you to get in to the auction at all, and once someone gets in, everyone on the planet knows your bid limit and what they need to bid to get in and knock you out.

How anyone can look at that scenario and find anything but stupidity in the technique is beyond me. Like I said in my first post in this thread; The guy I was complaining about has not won a single auction I have ever followed. All he accomplishes is to force the winning bid amount above the average for the item. I'm sorry, but I find nothing admirable in an individual with that claim to fame. (Unless of course he works for CB, in which case....NICE WORK!) ;o)

"The guy I was complaining about has not won a single auction I have ever followed"
What are you doing, stalking him?

"You have basically forced the rest of us to outbid you to get in to the auction at all"
Umm don't you have to outbid someone anyway, unless you are one of the first in?

"I know better, and I also know that the practice flat out doesn't work"
You've figured this all out in the two weeks you've been here?

Wether it's 1 person or 5 with the top bid, the cost is still the same. Noone is forcing you to overbid or try to outbid someone. If you suspect a person of stocking their store, drop a line to cust. service and let thm handle it. Sorry to be so caustic dude, but GET OVER IT! Set your max, and if you get outbid, remember, it's an auction, it happens. The cigars will come around again.

What I would like to see, (for fairness sake, not personal) is cbid starting some lots at 6pm again. They used to stager them occassionaly, but I haven't seen that in a while. This would give the folks without acess during the day, a chance to get in early after work.

I would also like to see the edit feature, cause that post above is by me. thought I logged in correctly, obvously not. (I'd hate to see stogie catch flack for my statements ;))

The question is ... what are you doing messing around with someone elses account. Friend or not ... I would never allow anyone else access to something my credit card was associated with.

The answer is he is a good friend of mine, (used to live in my house) and we check out how each other is doing, and rag each other on our purchases. ok?

GG7 ... take a deep breath, take a 'chill pill' and relax, 'newbie'. Man ... excuse me for saying this, but aren't we being a bit obsessive? After all, it's an auction site, and it is designed to work exactly like an auction should ...

And, to accuse our hosts for shilling is totally uncalled for, and can't believe you would even say that about a site you are totally unfamiliar with. I have been bidding at this site for years ... and nothing has changed. A retailer has every right to bid on whatever and how much he wants, when he wants. If he can get it cheaper here, more power to him.

I've seldom overpaid for anything I've won here ... and most of the time got incredible deals. But, I'm patient. I also have enough cigars to tide me over. I remember one instance that I bid for over 3 months before I finally got a box of cigars I wanted, and got it for a heck of a deal.

Whether you want to believe it or not, I did get some really good deals when I bid early on an entire lot. I don't do it anymore, because once I got burned, and ended up not getting outbid on three boxes of Romeo y Jullieta Churchill's at $70 each. I was sure it was going to go higher ... and I would end up with at least one, or nothing.

Ooops. Sorry. The above post was by me, not Slimboli. Damned log-in problems. Sorry, Slim.

The above post attributed to eleltea was actually posted by Xibumbero. I am still logged in as eleltea. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. -X

This post should have been under the name of plabonte...wait it is...never mind.

hey, will one of you guys who's logged in on the wrong name, go overbid on a bunch of really good cigars?? Buy entire lots (don't worry 'bout the expense, it's someone else's account, right?) ... 'course, you gotta change the 'ship-to' information so that YOU get the 'gars sent to your place, then you can split 'em with the rest of us here ... next month, someone else'll take a turn logging in under a different name ... it'll be great ...

"GG7 ... take a deep breath, take a 'chill pill' and relax, 'newbie'. Man ... excuse me for saying this, but aren't we being a bit obsessive? After all, it's an auction site, and it is designed to work exactly like an auction should ... "

Just making conversation Slim (The post count of this thread shows it is a hot topic) but I am as cool as a Cucumber. I was pissed off when I posted this thread, but since then only a bit annoyed at how many respondents have totally MISSED the point of my original complaint.

Also, I never seriously accused CB of shimming, that was a joke son! As I said previously, it would be unethical and unprofessional and totally out of character for this cool site.

In the end, I really don't care if you guys have no problem with "Hack n Slash" bidders screwing you out of a decent deal on a lot. As they say, ignorance is bliss, so I guess if you don't know you are being screwed, you wouldn't have cause to be angry now would you? Like I said, I have won about all I can store from this site for the moment, so if the problem I brought up starts getting worse over the next month or so, it won't be me who will be dealing with it.

As for the NEWBIE remark, I did say auctions "ELSEWHERE" didn't I ? I have a great deal of professional experience with online auctions having purchased over $35,000 worth of vintage musical instruments and equipment online in the last 4 years, about the same at estate sales and sold over 110k at auction locally and online, so I do know a few things about auctions and successful bidding techniques. In my years of buying and selling, you learn how to be successful in auctions, and how NOT to to be successful in auctions. :o) The practice I have been complaning about here falls into the latter catagory. In other words, a sure fire way to either LOSE or PAY out the ASS. Your 1 out of 5 wins with the technique although a dismal ratio is actually better than the usual 1 in 10 you would normally get. The chance of taking it in the shorts is high enough (as you found out), that eventually you will get nailed thus erasing any previous savings you might have gotten using the technique and then some.

And lastly to the guy that suggested I was STALKING this guy?

Hardly! He just happens to have bid on many of the same items I have been bidding on the last week. After awhile, you start to remember names, when they continually appear lot after lot on the same items and everytime for the entire quantity.

I would much prefer to see DUTCH AUCTIONS imposed here for mutiple quantity bidding, otherwise limit the bid quantity to two items per customer.

Cheers.

I hear you goose but I think you have totally missed the point that everyone else is making. Its an auction, this guy isn't doing anything illegal, if you don't like it don't bid. If you don't like how someone else bids TOUGH $HIT. This is a PUBLIC auction not the GoldenGoose7 needs a good deal auction. The guy has a reason for bidding the way he is. Whether or not you agree with his reason is moot. ITS HIS DECISION.

Now for the thread jack. You say you have purchased a lot of musical equipment. By chance to you have any BC Rich basses?

Sorry dude, just Hammond B-3 / C-3 Organs, Leslie speakers, Mini-Moogs and until recently pre-60s Martin Guitars.

As for the right to bid the way you want, SURE, no problem, just be prepared to see the average winning bids rise the more this technique is used, and it won't be the HOGS who will be paying the higher prices most of the time. It will be everyone else. :o)

Ah a keyboard man. I have a Roland XP-60 which is very nice. Now if I could just figure out how to work the damn thing I'd be ok. Are you in a band or do you play just for the fun of it?

You are right. You may end up paying more. But it is STILL cheaper then going to the store in my town so I won't complain.

I have an XP-80 around here some where. Nice line of boards to be sure. The 60s/70s card is a great collection of vintage keyboard sounds to have for recording.

I was in a band till about 2 years ago. We released 3 critically acclaimed albums, got a pretty large and loyal following, but we were not able to get the big deal we had set out to land even though we were pretty big on MP3.COM for awhile, so we packed it in at the end of the 6th year. I do miss it I must admit! :o(

The music business is a tough one! I have made much more $$ buying and selling musical equipment than I ever did playing it! :o)

GG7 - 'Newbie' is just a term of 'endearment' that is used to describe anyone who is 'new' on any
I remember how upset I got at over at CF when I first joined. Man, did I ever get a razzing. I was 'newbie puke' and 'newbie scum' for many months ... hehehe! And of course, the more I made a big deal out of it, the worse it got.

But still, I still can't help but 'read between the lines' on some of your 'conversations' ... and that there just might be something a little more 'deep seated' in what you say. You are trying very hard to get your point across ...