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RMAN4443 Offline
#151 Posted: Sun, Feb 18 2018, 12:23 PM EST
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HuckFinn wrote:
Trump relishes division. If you don't kiss his ring he'll find an insulting nickname for ya.

Obama failed at it for reasons, many of which were out of his control. But not because he enjoyed pitting one side against the other.

didn't Obama try to pit the Boston police against Henry Louis Gates for acting "stupidly".....for doing their job?http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=8148986&page=1 ------and then he held the "Beer Summit"

After looking at some issues on the Interwebs, I see that a very common descriptive used for Obama is "The Great Divider"..........look it up
DrafterX Offline
#152 Posted: Sun, Feb 18 2018, 12:35 PM EST
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Ya.. Obama sucked... Mellow
HuckFinn Offline
#153 Posted: Sun, Feb 18 2018, 12:42 PM EST
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RMAN4443 wrote:
didn't Obama try to pit the Boston police against Henry Louis Gates for acting "stupidly".....for doing their job?http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=8148986&page=1 ------and then he held the "Beer Summit"

After looking at some issues on the Interwebs, I see that a very common descriptive used for Obama is "The Great Divider"..........look it up





Obviously, as always nowadays, you have to consider the source, right?
Sure, Fox and Whistle conservative opinion/news sources do call Obama that.

My point? Obama tried tried and failed to unify us.
He wanted to improve race relations (unify us) but made them worse.
It wasn't intentional.
With Trump polarizing people is intentional and crafted into an art form.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-great-divider_us_59f129dbe4b09812b938c6a0
victor809 Offline
#154 Posted: Sun, Feb 18 2018, 12:54 PM EST
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Don't bother huck... there are lots here who think he intentionally tried to start a race war. (I'm only slightly exaggerating).... (actually... no I'm not exaggerating.. I think I remember threads about that).

And they're also convinced Trump is going to "make America great again"...
paulkeck Offline
#155 Posted: Sun, Feb 18 2018, 12:57 PM EST
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Obama,Trump, Hillary, or even senior Packo himself....doesnt matter who be presidentin...... big business runs America, Democrat or Republican means nothing other than what they want...Americans divided. If were fighting each other we can't see that neither side really makes a difference. Because the 1% are who really run the world
HuckFinn Offline
#156 Posted: Sun, Feb 18 2018, 1:10 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Don't bother huck... there are lots here who think he intentionally tried to start a race war. (I'm only slightly exaggerating).... (actually... no I'm not exaggerating.. I think I remember threads about that).

And they're also convinced Trump is going to "make America great again"...

It is great again. For 1% of us.

How it isn't crystal clear that the same idea of polarizing us employed by the Russians is identical to Trump's: Divide and conquer.

It's the soft white underbelly of America: democracy and free free press I guess.
We've become easy marks.
God help us in the midterms if the Russian bot situation isn't solved.

Wonder if Russians would be thrown in to disarray like we are if we infiltrated their airways with tens of thousands of bots. Maybe the only language they'd understand.
RMAN4443 Offline
#157 Posted: Sun, Feb 18 2018, 1:11 PM EST
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HuckFinn wrote:
Obviously, as always nowadays, you have to consider the source, right?
Sure, Fox and :-" conservative opinion/news sources do call Obama that.

My point? Obama tried tried and failed to unify us.
He wanted to improve race relations (unify us) but made them worse.
It wasn't intentional.
With Trump polarizing people is intentional and crafted into an art form.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-great-divider_us_59f129dbe4b09812b938c6a0

Google Obama the Great Divider, and there are 36.6 million search results and not all are conservative sources....

Here is a report on his "unifying" speech given at a memorial for the white police officers, killed by a black sniper, at a BLM protest.....who according to the sniper only targeted those officers because they were white.......Obama's comments definitely did not seem "unifying" to me, but they were surely intentional.....

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/12/obama-defends-black-lives-matter-protests-police-m/



Keep in mind this little "unifying" speech was given at a "memorial" for officers who had given their lives in the line of duty at a BLM protest
HuckFinn Offline
#158 Posted: Sun, Feb 18 2018, 1:22 PM EST
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RMAN4443 wrote:
Google Obama the Great Divider, and there are 36.6 million search results and not all are conservative sources....

Here is a report on his "unifying" speech given at a memorial for the white police officers, killed by a black sniper, at a BLM protest.....who according to the sniper only targeted those officers because they were white.......Obama's comments definitely did not seem "unifying" to me, but they were surely intentional.....




Keep in mind this little "unifying" speech was given at a "memorial" for officers who had given their lives in the line of duty at a BLM protest


Was stupid, I agree. Stupid because I know his intentions were good but they fell flat.
He was trying to say black lives matter and cops needed to reconcile. Both sides needed to listen better. Right forum? Nope.

From your Washington Post link:

"While paying tribute to the fallen officers for sacrificing their lives to protect anti-police protesters from a sniper, Mr. Obama also called on law enforcement agencies to root out bias that he said is contributing to violence on the streets of America."


Again, his intention was NOT to divide. Donald's is.
bs_kwaj Offline
#159 Posted: Sun, Feb 18 2018, 1:46 PM EST
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Blue
Black
Orange
Green
White

Beer
HuckFinn Offline
#160 Posted: Sun, Feb 18 2018, 1:50 PM EST
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bs_kwaj wrote:
Blue
Black
Orange
Green
White

Beer

Huh?
MACS Offline
#161 Posted: Sun, Feb 18 2018, 5:29 PM EST
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Huck can read minds and knows everyone's "intentions".

Impressive, ain't it?
HuckFinn Offline
#162 Posted: Sun, Feb 18 2018, 6:03 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
Huck can read minds and knows everyone's "intentions".

Impressive, ain't it?

So that's what you get from my post eh. Lol
Whatever.
Wasn't saying I know everyone's anything Mac.
Trump has made a study and science outta polarizing America. Intentionally.
Wasn't Obama’s M.O. imo.
Again, whatever....
I am pretty sure I see your intentions.

Right back at ya.
MACS Offline
#163 Posted: Sun, Feb 18 2018, 6:20 PM EST
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My intention was to sarcastically point out that you cannot know someone's intentions (in most cases), so you're merely stating your opinion.

I don't think either Obama or Trump intentionally try to divide the country. We've gotten pretty good at that on our own. Instead of civil discourse, we resort to insults. Once the insults fly, what's the point? No ideas are being exchanged.
DrafterX Offline
#164 Posted: Sun, Feb 18 2018, 6:31 PM EST
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Many opinions are stated as facts around here... Or they seem to think the majority agree with them... Mellow
DrafterX Offline
#165 Posted: Sun, Feb 18 2018, 6:32 PM EST
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And Obama did divide the country then laughed about it... Everybody knows that... Mellow
HuckFinn Offline
#166 Posted: Sun, Feb 18 2018, 6:36 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
My intention was to sarcastically point out that you cannot know someone's intentions (in most cases), so you're merely stating your opinion.

I don't think either Obama or Trump intentionally try to divide the country. We've gotten pretty good at that on our own. Instead of civil discourse, we resort to insults. Once the insults fly, what's the point? No ideas are being exchanged.

That's part of my point. Donald has taken insulting to a whole new (low?) level, right?

How do you even appear to be trying to unite people when all you have in your arsenal when someone disagrees with you is insulting them?
Do remember anything like the divide we're experiencing now? I sure don't.
Donald is largely responsible I think. He doesn't seem to be able to help himself...
Right, my opinion, but I'm not the only one...

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-great-divider_us_59f129dbe4b09812b938c6a0
tailgater Offline
#167 Posted: Sun, Feb 18 2018, 7:53 PM EST
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HuckFinn wrote:
Trump relishes division. If you don't kiss his ring he'll find an insulting nickname for ya.

Obama failed at it for reasons, many of which were out of his control. But not because he enjoyed pitting one side against the other.


Talk about making excuses.

There's another difference between you and I. I admit Trumps fault. You excuse Obama's.
tailgater Offline
#168 Posted: Sun, Feb 18 2018, 7:56 PM EST
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HuckFinn wrote:
Was stupid, I agree. Stupid because I know his intentions were good but they fell flat.
He was trying to say black lives matter and cops needed to reconcile. Both sides needed to listen better. Right forum? Nope.

From your Washington Post link:

"While paying tribute to the fallen officers for sacrificing their lives to protect anti-police protesters from a sniper, Mr. Obama also called on law enforcement agencies to root out bias that he said is contributing to violence on the streets of America."


Again, his intention was NOT to divide. Donald's is.


Perhaps the weakest post you've made to date.

Stick to trashing the current President. At least you're good at that.
tailgater Offline
#169 Posted: Sun, Feb 18 2018, 8:00 PM EST
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HuckFinn wrote:
That's part of my point. Donald has taken insulting to a whole new (low?) level, right?

How do you even appear to be trying to unite people when all you have in your arsenal when someone disagrees with you is insulting them?
Do remember anything like the divide we're experiencing now? I sure don't.
Donald is largely responsible I think. He doesn't seem to be able to help himself...
Right, my opinion, but I'm not the only one...

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-great-divider_us_59f129dbe4b09812b938c6a0


Sure.
It's just a "coincidence" that the BLM movement (for instance) originated under Obama.

You keep thinking that.


When President Trump fails to unify, it's intentional.
When Obama failed, it wasn't his fault.

Paraphrasing, but I could almost quote you on that.

Partisan runs deep with you.
DrafterX Offline
#170 Posted: Sun, Feb 18 2018, 8:20 PM EST
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Obama didn't have an organized 'Resistance' either... Mellow
Speyside Offline
#171 Posted: Sun, Feb 18 2018, 8:22 PM EST
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Like it doesn't in you? I've read Obama this, Hillary that, which you have posted for years. As have many others here. One great thing about our nation is that we are free to express what we feel about our leaders. What Obama, or Bush, or Clinton, or Bush, or Reagan did is history. In the now what Trump does is what matters. Expect to keep reading Trump this, Trump that. I for one will keep expressing my disappointment with our president. I would be disappointed if you didn't counter me, or Frank, or Huck, et alii. That's the American way, and it's great.
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#172 Posted: Sun, Feb 18 2018, 8:32 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
Talk about making excuses.

There's another difference between you and I. I admit Trumps fault. You excuse Obama's.


Amazing that we're witnessing the same things and describing different ones.

I've been trying to narrow it down to "intentions", period.

Not to results because yes, Obama was NOT successful at unifying the country.

But do you honestly think his intention was to set up barriers? I don't.

He let me down often but not because I ever thought he was acting childishly, irresponsibly or recklessly. And not because he was always and only trying to please his base. He wasn't.

You say you see Donald clearly. Do you see a leader who is concerned with uniting a seriously divided country? I don't. I see a whiney, entitled, narcissistic man-child. A dangerous man. Someone who thrives on confrontation. You do see that, Right? No....

I don't excuse Obama for his blunders. I have heard him talk about them openly. He doesnt either: berating the reps, Syria, Libya etc.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/12/08/obama-cnn-gun-control/

http://time.com/4288634/president-obama-worst-mistake/

https://www.vibe.com/2017/01/president-obama-final-letter/

On the other hand Donald is straight up sociopathic. He's incapable of error and self-examination. And frighteningly, it's not just our country that is at risk: you feel safe? Yes?
No...? He's not a loose cannon? No...
You don't see how precarious the world scene has become since Trump came onto it? No...really?....no...ok
We are better off and should be grateful that Donald is president..yes?

No!!!

The end.

So, carry on. Attack me personally. It's what YOU do best.

Btw, it's "there's another difference between you and me"...not you and I...no? No.
tailgater Offline
#173 Posted: Mon, Feb 19 2018, 11:10 AM EST
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Speyside wrote:
Like it doesn't in you? I've read Obama this, Hillary that, which you have posted for years. As have many others here. One great thing about our nation is that we are free to express what we feel about our leaders. What Obama, or Bush, or Clinton, or Bush, or Reagan did is history. In the now what Trump does is what matters. Expect to keep reading Trump this, Trump that. I for one will keep expressing my disappointment with our president. I would be disappointed if you didn't counter me, or Frank, or Huck, et alii. That's the American way, and it's great.


I am absolutely partisan.
But when we dissect a topic I am not generally so hypocritical to think that similar results are from opposite motives.
Nor would I be so arrogant as to suggest I know their motives.

Both Presidents, Trump and Obama, are witnessing a divide.
I say both are weak at unity.
Huckleberry says that Obama was merely unlucky while Trump is purposeful and effective.

I enjoy the banter like you do.
But let's call a spade a spade here.
tailgater Offline
#174 Posted: Mon, Feb 19 2018, 11:14 AM EST
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HuckFinn wrote:


You say you see Donald clearly. Do you see a leader who is concerned with uniting a seriously divided country?


Uh, I believe my exact words were:

"I agree that Trump is lacking in the "National unity" category."

Sorry to confuse you.
tailgater Offline
#175 Posted: Mon, Feb 19 2018, 11:23 AM EST
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HuckFinn wrote:


I don't excuse Obama for his blunders.


That's precisely what you did.
You said "well, sure. He didn't unify the country. But he sure WANTED to."

This was a major failure from Obama's two terms.
The country become less unified. racial tensions were the highest since the civil rights movement.
These are MAJOR failures.

And you make excuses by saying it wasn't his intention.
LOL!


And how is a disagreement about presidents "attacking you personally"?
Because I called you partisan? A hypocrite?
Because I point out your penchant to arrogantly think you know what people intended deep down inside?

If that's an attack then the previous posts about you "fitting in" may have been premature.
Buckwheat Offline
#176 Posted: Mon, Feb 19 2018, 11:43 AM EST
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Man this thread went off the rails quicker than the German 2-man bobsled team. fog
HuckFinn Offline
#177 Posted: Mon, Feb 19 2018, 11:57 AM EST
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tailgater wrote:
That's precisely what you did.
You said "well, sure. He didn't unify the country. But he sure WANTED to."

This was a major failure from Obama's two terms.
The country become less unified. racial tensions were the highest since the civil rights movement.
These are MAJOR failures.

And you make excuses by saying it wasn't his intention.
LOL!


And how is a disagreement about presidents "attacking you personally"?
Because I called you partisan? A hypocrite?
Because I point out your penchant to arrogantly think you know what people intended deep down inside?

If that's an attack then the previous posts about you "fitting in" may have been premature.


I suspect we're never going to finish this Tower of Babel...

Without being a mind reader I believe one can safely assume that Obama had the intention of improving race relations, being a black man . If you don't agree then stop reading now.
It backfired.

The same cannot be said about Donald. Many comments he's made have alienated blacks, Muslims,Mexicans and immigrants. Why? Because he knows his base. And his base is sacred to him. Statements like his chithole comment go a long way with racists. He's interested in keeping his xenophobic base unified. He's not reaching out. His strategy is successful.

So I'm not really interested in going in to this but, when you don't agree with someone's opinion, you almost always sign off with a personal dig.
You do know that, right?
.
DrafterX Offline
#178 Posted: Mon, Feb 19 2018, 12:32 PM EST
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Many of those comments were taken out of context and then crammed down the nation's throats by the liberal media... It's pretty obvious they succeeded in washing some brains...

I dunno how much race really plays into the overall plan.. the Liberal Media is dead set on painting anyone who questions them evil... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#179 Posted: Mon, Feb 19 2018, 12:32 PM EST
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Let’s take a baby step and let the CDC and NIH study gun violence. The originator of the amendment preventing this regretted it. Let’s also undo trump’s efforts to make it easier with mental health issues to get guns. Neither will solve things but the journey of 1000 miles starts with a step or 2.
teedubbya Offline
#180 Posted: Mon, Feb 19 2018, 12:35 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Many of those comments were taken out of context and then crammed down the nation's throats by the liberal media... It's pretty obvious they succeeded in washing some brains...

I dunno how much race really plays into the overall plan.. the Liberal Media is dead set on painting anyone who questions them evil... Mellow



Drafter you realize your lock hillary up comments and knowledge of all of her crimes completely strips you of all credibility when discussing how other brains are washed by biased sources right?
cacman Offline
#181 Posted: Mon, Feb 19 2018, 12:42 PM EST
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HuckFinn wrote:
Without being a mind reader I believe one can safely assume that Obama had the intention of improving race relations, being a black man . If you don't agree then stop reading now.

Without being a mind reader...
You believe...
Can safely "assume"...
"Intention" of improving race relations, [just because of] being a black man


LMFAO!!!
Someone sure is drinking a lot of kool aid!

---


Now back to the original topic:
Trump backs effort to improve gun background checks:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-shooting/trump-backs-effort-to-improve-gun-background-checks-white-house-idUSKCN1G31K6
DrafterX Offline
#182 Posted: Mon, Feb 19 2018, 12:52 PM EST
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My brain is spotless... Not talking
Speyside Offline
#183 Posted: Mon, Feb 19 2018, 12:53 PM EST
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Talk about LMAO, you of all people talking about race relations. How many other people do you know who moved to Colorado so there would be less black people because of sickle cell anemia?
Buckwheat Offline
#184 Posted: Mon, Feb 19 2018, 12:57 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
My brain is spotless... Not talking


Did you have an MRI? Just checking. Beer
cacman Offline
#185 Posted: Mon, Feb 19 2018, 1:03 PM EST
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Spey's also drinking the kool-aid, and believing what he wants to believe.
Drink-up buddy.
Speyside Offline
#186 Posted: Mon, Feb 19 2018, 1:07 PM EST
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So you didn't do that? Ummm wait, you did. Be careful of your orange kool-aid. It makes people dumber than they are. Personally I like the grape flavor.

Curious question, how much snow have you seen in the last 2 week's?
HuckFinn Offline
#187 Posted: Mon, Feb 19 2018, 1:26 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Many of those comments were taken out of context and then crammed down the nation's throats by the liberal media... It's pretty obvious they succeeded in washing some brains...

I dunno how much race really plays into the overall plan.. the Liberal Media is dead set on painting anyone who questions them evil... Mellow

I'll grant you that there some people are fired up because of the liberal media.

But Drafter, you have separate the message from the messenger just a little.
When Donald has made these statements:
Nigerian immigrants wouldn’t ever “go back to their huts” in Africa.

During a meeting in June that Haitians “all have AIDS.”

“Laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that,”

Drafter, the list is long. Anti-semetic, muslim, mexican, black...

Hearing any one of these comments just once tells me everything I need to know about the man.

HuckFinn Offline
#188 Posted: Mon, Feb 19 2018, 1:33 PM EST
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cacman wrote:
Without being a mind reader...
You believe...
Can safely "assume"...
"Intention" of improving race relations, [just because of] being a black man


LMFAO!!!
Someone sure is drinking a lot of kool aid!

---


Now back to the original topic:
Trump backs effort to improve gun background checks:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-shooting/trump-backs-effort-to-improve-gun-background-checks-white-house-idUSKCN1G31K6

So by your way of reckoning Obama wasn't trying to better race relations?
He had no dog in that fight?
No reason to help shape a more tolerant-of-race nation?
If you're not kidding, you're dumb.
victor809 Offline
#189 Posted: Mon, Feb 19 2018, 1:54 PM EST
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HuckFinn wrote:
I'll grant you that there some people are fired up because of the liberal media.

But Drafter, you have separate the message from the messenger just a little.
When Donald has made these statements:


“Laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that,”



For the sake of honesty... this one is uncorroborated.

https://www.snopes.com/trump-laziness-is-a-trait-in-blacks/

It's from a book written about him by a former employee... Trump did later say "everything he wrote is probably true".... and then later again said "I never said that"... so who f%cking knows with that orange f%%ktard.
But without evidence I don't think we can say he said that...
HuckFinn Offline
#190 Posted: Mon, Feb 19 2018, 2:02 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
For the sake of honesty... this one is uncorroborated.

https://www.snopes.com/trump-laziness-is-a-trait-in-blacks/

It's from a book written about him by a former employee... Trump did later say "everything he wrote is probably true".... and then later again said "I never said that"... so who f%cking knows with that orange f%%ktard.
But without evidence I don't think we can say he said that...

Fair nuff.
Substitute 'Some Very Fine People on Both Sides'
paulkeck Offline
#191 Posted: Mon, Feb 19 2018, 2:09 PM EST
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Lol a lot of Trump haters here
victor809 Offline
#192 Posted: Mon, Feb 19 2018, 2:33 PM EST
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HuckFinn wrote:
Fair nuff.
Substitute 'Some Very Fine People on Both Sides'


Yeah... that was a really special one. I've definitely met lots of "very fine" nazis....
RMAN4443 Offline
#193 Posted: Mon, Feb 19 2018, 2:33 PM EST
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HuckFinn wrote:
So by your way of reckoning Obama wasn't trying to better race relations?
He had no dog in that fight?
No reason to help shape a more tolerant-of-race nation?
If you're not kidding, you're dumb.


Go back to the Harvard "Beer Summit" and the White Police acted stupidly by detaining an aggressive B&E suspect......before he knew the facts of the case he condemned the white police officers........not very helpful to race relations

Then there was the memorial for the MURDERED white police officers and Obamas "unifying" remarks to the Black Lives Matter brigade.............how was that improving race relations??????

Trayvon Martin could have been my son........unifying????
delta1 Offline
#194 Posted: Mon, Feb 19 2018, 2:35 PM EST
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Didn't Trump also publicly demand the death penalty against 5 black/latino teenagers who were accused of raping and beating a young white woman in Central Park? They confessed under duress, during coercive interrogations, but were later found innocent. INNOCENT!

Trump has never expressed regret about his intent to see the accused put to death, even after DNA evidence proved that another man, who confessed to the crime, actually did it. Despite all this evidence, Trump still thinks he was correct, criticizing the city for a $41M settlement of wrongful prosecution case brought by the five.

Cons are outraged that we libs are openly critical of Trump, and are upset that we don't don't support him, or at least shut up and let him run the country. The same people who stood behind the Tea Party, and their racial caricatures of Obama, and openly criticized his every word and action. The biggest of these people is Trump...he won over a whole lot of cons by publicly going after Obama.

Who was the moving force behind the Birther movement, a prolonged effort to de-legitimize an American President, who just happened to have a Kenyan father? That, in itself, defines the man, and speaks volumes about those who support him...
HuckFinn Offline
#195 Posted: Mon, Feb 19 2018, 2:38 PM EST
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paulkeck wrote:
Lol a lot of Trump haters here

I actually like the guy! I always found him amusing.

But as my president? No, he's way outta his depth.
paulkeck Offline
#196 Posted: Mon, Feb 19 2018, 2:42 PM EST
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HuckFinn wrote:
I actually like the guy! I always found him amusing.

But as my president? No, he's way outta his depth.

Has but bag crazy but still better than Hillary lol
delta1 Offline
#197 Posted: Mon, Feb 19 2018, 2:46 PM EST
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RMAN4443 wrote:
Go back to the Harvard "Beer Summit" and the White Police acted stupidly by detaining an aggressive B&E suspect......before he knew the facts of the case he condemned the white police officers........not very helpful to race relations

Then there was the memorial for the MURDERED white police officers and Obamas "unifying" remarks to the Black Lives Matter brigade.............how was that improving race relations??????

Trayvon Martin could have been my son........unifying????


We must temper our support for law enforcement officers and not endow them with innate abilities to do no wrong. I supervised a department of campus law enforcement officers, and know they (and myself) are all capable of being human...of making mistakes.

Don't want to re-litigate the past, but the man who stalked and killed Trayvon Martin turned out to be a deeply flawed human being...he was prolly a deeply flawed individual before the events that night...

There are places in the US where people are "policed" and not "served and protected" by the local police department. That relationship can have awful consequences....
HuckFinn Offline
#198 Posted: Mon, Feb 19 2018, 3:01 PM EST
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RMAN4443 wrote:
Go back to the Harvard "Beer Summit" and the White Police acted stupidly by detaining an aggressive B&E suspect......before he knew the facts of the case he condemned the white police officers........not very helpful to race relations

Then there was the memorial for the MURDERED white police officers and Obamas "unifying" remarks to the Black Lives Matter brigade.............how was that improving race relations??????

.......unifying????

I understand what you're saying. He often used the office as a bully pulpit for Black American causes and concerns. What black man wouldn't?

The remarks that offend you so much came from a place of empathy for people of color that, as I know you know, we're enslaved, disenfranchised, and treated like chit historically, right?

He couldn't solve race tensions. He worsened them probably. He wasn't up to the task. Neither was our country.

I for one think he never intended to divide us further, but the opposite...

Donald on the other hand could give two chits.

Isn't Trayvon Martin could have been my son a plea?
victor809 Offline
#199 Posted: Mon, Feb 19 2018, 3:13 PM EST
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If you think saying "Trayvon Martin could have been my son" is a divisive statement, then you're already in a "them vs us" mentality.

Seriously... if you find that insulting, that the president of the united states could have empathy for someone.... then I really don't think there is anything that could change your mind.
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#200 Posted: Mon, Feb 19 2018, 3:15 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
If you think saying "Trayvon Martin could have been my son" is a divisive statement, then you're already in a "them vs us" mentality.

Seriously... if you find that insulting, that the president of the united states could have empathy for someone.... then I really don't think there is anything that could change your mind.

A mind is a terrible thing...to change
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